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Also, if you read a great books that has cited sources of other books that informed that great book you just read look into those. Example: If I read “The Hero With a Thousand Faces” and I wanted to read more books about the hero’s journey because I’m really inspired, go to the cited sources of books that in this example Joseph Campbell used. This creates like this giant web effect starting from just 1 book because if you do this with starting book, you can buy 3 more of those books from the cited sources, read those, apply the same process and on and on it goes.

Take. The. Life. Purpose. Course.

Zen Devil or just lower stage on Spiral Dynamics or both I’d say. Sounds like a very Stage Blue move.

@Leo Gura this is really something. Looking at his speeches and stuff and this is crazy. What a phenomenon if this is actually for real...

BBC Documentary...

This is what I love about Zen. There’s so much artistry and beauty in the simplicity in the way Zen is communicated when fully embodied. One thing that I think people like the Samurai warriors or martial artists that took up Zen practice actually really grasped is infinite intelligence. They see so much in such simple things, e.g. a punch, a kick, a look into their opponents eyes, the way they walk, etc. and ground themselves in that.

The correlation between some good mathematicians being “good thinkers” (which more often than not they actually aren’t because they don’t question deep enough) does not = causation. Btw you clearly have very little understanding of what dyslexia is.

During the beginning of the video, Leo gave the exercise of feeling a moment of real love from any moment of my past. However, every time I found one of these moments and really tried to feel into and embrace the love I actually started crying. Not from years of joy or love or anything. But it felt almost like the tears I get when I feel guilt or this sense of loss. For instance I brought to mind: my dog moments when I had tears of joy just from being in nature I really struggle with feeling love for myself too which is why self-acceptance is such a hard exercise because every time I try to conjure love I get this distortion where I feel guilty, a sense of loss (hard to explain), etc. In general I really struggle with feeling and allowing myself to feel good. I think it’s a big reason why I struggle with certain questions and exercises in the life purpose course. Is this my shadow? If so, how do integrate it? I’ve tried for example Ken Wilber’s 3-2-1 shadow integration process but I don’t get it at all and haven’t gotten any results with it.

Important: When I say “level”, don’t take that as some sort of categorization or some sort of set nondual label/mark of achievement that’s some set in stoke thing. Obviously this is extremely nuanced. The Question: Is consciousness to the degree of people like great sages Buddha, Christ, Ramana Maharshi, or common day mystics and sages like Sadhguru, Om Swami, Ralston, Osho, Doshin Roshi from Integral Zen, Ken Wilber, etc. really possible while functioning within society? Sure there are people like Ralston who did Zen practice for a year and stuff while living in the Bay Area (which is not the Bay Area that that lives today as opposed to back then). Sure. But it seems almost always across the board that attainment to that level almost always requires a period of true renunciation and total singleminded devotion to the path. I haven’t done psychedelics yet so I will not denounce them and their benefit to the path and how they can serve as accelerators. Maybe it’s just me and the way I’m perceiving this whole thing (and please, call me out if I am) but there definitely seems to be an order of magnitude difference in those really select people who have full embodiment and even understanding and grasping of “ultimate enlightenment” (if there is such a thing is not my point... my opinion is that there isn’t) and people who’ve grasped and embody things like no-self and stuff. I mean, people talk about those select people (people like Ramana come to mind from my research) with such a qualitative difference than that of people of “lower level attainments” (not trying to create a hierarchy of like ‘oh he’s 2 points lower than him’ nor as a put down). I mean, what does that really take? What does it really look like to do that? What’s really interesting and also intimidating is that it seems like a lot of these guys also fit in theoretical understanding in too (Osho , Ken Wilber, Sri Aurobibdo, and Shunyamurti are 4 great examples that come to my mind) which is just remarkable. It just seems like these guys who live, breathe, walk and talk this path put in something orders of magnitude more than even “a lot” (LOL as though we have an abudance of enlightened individuals) of enlightened people. I just feel skeptical about how doable that degree of embodiment, understanding, etc. is while living in a society. Hell most people don’t even get there, much less do it living in a city. Hell x2, most people don’t even get enlightened, much less while living in a normal society. What are your thoughts? Does it really take going to extremes like true renunciation to get to this depth? Final Disclaimer: I ask this because I feel this core gap between where I am and my life purpose because a lot of my vision involves getting to a height of that kind but I’m so discouraged by my current level of development, circumstances, neuroses, etc. These kinds of people really inspire me because these people give so much value and impact. It’s not that they just go realize everything that is and the ultimate nature of things and stay there. No, these people create real impact. They create and invent new systems, ways of doing things, are articulate (sometimes), have degrees of wisdom and energy that it wakes people up. The way they carry themselves reflect what they’ve realized. They’re selfless leaders. So if you have any comments, tips, advice or wisdom on this matter too I’d appreciate it. Really stuck in life right now on what to do ❤️

Isn’t that an NLP technique?

This was just a rant that has nothing to do with my question LOL. And yes and no. It doesn’t change the circumstances of the world. However it changes everything at the same time. Sorry but Buddha, Christ, Ramana, every great sage weren’t the same nor lived the same post full embodiment as they did when they were ignorant. That’s just flat out false. However, you’re rant had nothing to do with my question. Read my post on why I’m asking this. I don’t want to be enlightened and working in a low end job. Whether you’re enlightened or not you’re going to likely be playing the “social game” whether you like it or not unless you live in the woods and fend for yourself. I personally would like to contribute and make an impact by reaching that kind of high level of development. I’m talking more in lines of: is it possible to reach such levels of growth, Truth, understanding, and embodiment while playing the game of life? So in the process towards full realization. Not after. And I’m with you on the small talk thing. I live in the heart of San Francisco just a few blocks from the SF Zen Center that Suzuki Roshi built and I go to an occasional once per week “Young Urban Zen” meeting and it’s still all the same. Just small talk. People pretend they’re spiritual and philosophize about who they are and then go back to their ordinary lives. Whether it’s working at Twitter, Google, a new startup, their business or as a busboy making $500k or $15k.

In depth video on what love is, the obstacles and challenges to embody true love, etc.

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First off: I'm sharing this on the Self-Actualization section rather than just the product review or Life Purpose sections because I think this is a great and amazing and free way to learn how to actually create the impact you want using your Life Purpose and in the process moving up to Tier 2 Stage Yellow in the Spiral Dynamics model. Not to mention, escape wage slavery. Course starts October 9th, 2018 (Online, don't worry) and goes on till December 25th, 2018. https://www.plusacumen.org/courses/systems-practice

Welcome to the Marriott... I mean Halden Prison in Norway... "Guard! I know I just chainsawed my family into New York strip steak but can I get an extra shot of espresso in here? Thanks!"

Not making a statement lol I’m saying the contrast between the prisons we have to the prisons they have his hilarious. The fact that the gap is so huge is what’s funny.

The seeker is the obstacle. What you’re looking with is what you need to see through.

Not angry. I just have no problem robbing you of your fantasies and delusions. There are plenty of people who are legitimately autistic and are good at math. There are schizophrenics who are good at math. Vague generalization based on what you deem "stupid." Groundless. Creativity is a form of intelligence which most most hyper left-brained rationalists are not in touch with at all because they are undeveloped in that area of intellect and understanding. You trying to specify and strip intelligence down into one little type of left brained activity is by definition narrow-mindedness. By this logic, Trump is a genius. Translation: I have this fantasy of intelligence being this way that I imagine and prefer it to be.

There are plenty of people who are legitimately autistic and are good at math. There are schizophrenics who are good at math. Vague generalization based on what you deem "stupid." Groundless. Creativity is a form of intelligence which most most hyper left-brained rationalists are not in touch with at all because they are undeveloped in that area of intellect and understanding. You trying to specify and strip intelligence down into one little type of left brained activity is by definition narrow-mindedness. By this logic, Trump is a genius. Translation: I have this fantasy of intelligence being this way that I imagine and prefer it to be.

So I’ve been talking to Shunyamurti right now emailing back and forth talking about becoming a monk/sanyasa at his community and I’m going to volunteer there, and how I told him that I’m 100% ready to go all in and he was going through this whole thing about saving up money for health insurance, have some money built up and what not before I head over. However, I went through my whole story with him and how I’m going to leave home doing this (have my reasons and already went over it with him and some others) and what I’m confused about with this whole community thing is... I mean I won’t have money after a certain point. How do I actually keep paying for obvious bills like health insurance, have income and what not while I’m in a community like this and I’m paying to out of pocket to volunteer? @Leo Gura I know you’ve been there (I told them I heard about the Ashram and Shunyamurti from your stage Turqoise video and they said “Leo!”) and obviously you’ve done a lot of homework on this (which I’m doing a lot of now). What are your thoughts?

Leave this in the meditation/enlightenment thread Actually do some research and watch some of Leo's videos...

So people who have crippling dyslexia are not intelligent by this “logic”. Yeah and Albert Einstein probably doesn’t have the bodily intelligence like that of a yogi or of a runner who can run a 100 miler. You have a narrow understanding of inteligence. That’s the bottom of this whole. This isn’t you becoming more conscious to these things.

I’m not talking about true selflessness. Life Purpose for example is still a selfish endeavor in the end all be all even if your goal is to impact the world. Unless you’re like a Ramana Maharshi or someone or these more modern sages/deeply enlightened people, everything you do pretty much is for your own selfish agenda. There’s nothing bad about that. It’s just so. This is not what I’m talking about though.

One of the things I personally struggle with it seems like more than a lot of other people that has really effected me especially in Life Purpose Course is creating a powerful vision that I'm inspired by that serves others. I recently gained a lot of deeper understanding of why just now. For so long I just thought I was just some selfish asshole that only looks out for himself (which if I'm honest is a lot of what I do for a lot of insecure reasons but that's besides this particular point). However, I personally do like helping individuals (particularly one on one) and actually always kinda have. What I realized though was this life long pattern of how all my goals centered around just my own growth given the fact that I've always been a very serious athlete that's been involved in a purely individual sport (competitive runner) and that's been my primary passion in life since before I was a teenager (23 years old now) up until now. What I realized and also looking a lot of other people is that the reason a lot of people have a hard time visioning big visions that inspire them is because we're so used to having our goals be all about us. Not necessarily because we're so selfish we don't like helping or impacting others. But because we're so conditioned to have our goals and entire modus operandi be about our own growth and we then only become inspired and motivated when our visions in life are in line with that paradigm and man is this a hard thing to shake. You really got to train yourself and override this subconscious process. Just an interesting thing insight I had. Thought I'd share that with you guys