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You realize I’m agreeing with you right? Lol

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. It’s funny too because I’ve heard her defend herself multiple times for charging for spiritual guidance and all the stuff she does. Granted, I like her. Her story to me really made me cry when I heard it. Just find this quote from her (assuming this is real) a little hypocritical.

This is both a silly and also good question. I remember reading somewhere that the reason we seek challenge in the modern world now is because we are faced with so little of it now. I found this to be very true. We’re so soft and comfortable that it takes a certain mind to create illusory challenges. The question with that though is - are you doing that consciously or unconsciously? Are you creating these challenges? What are these challenges motivatated by? Did you create these challenges or are you following challenges that culture has programmed you to follow? It really all depends. If we look at this from a scientific rationalist paradigm we would say that: Stress + Rest = Growth However, I don’t suggest that if you’re unmotivated, depressed, suicidal, and mentally unstable to go corner yourself in life for the sake of challenging yourself and demanding growth. That’s like a kid whose never lifted a day in his life at the gym to go bench press 300 pounds without a spotter. That kid is just going to hurt himself. I don’t care how much determination he has. He can’t do it. So it’s a balance and you need to find what that is for you. In the end though it’s because all fulfillment and growth comes from challenge. You don’t get something from nothing. As far as what your motivation should be, I suggest you intuit what that needs to be and start living it. This is a lot of what @Leo Gura‘s episode on the humans being the bullshitting animal is about. This is really how the mind works. In the end, there’s no ethereal motivation as to why you should challenge yourself. Which is actually a blind spot a lot of very successful people have. They want to believe in what they’re doing and that reinforces their actions. If they saw that blind spot though, they might actually apply that same hard work ethic into a motivation that’s authentic to them. That’s a process though that takes real introspection but also really soul searching which often involves life experiences and action. Be deliberate. Find a challenge that you really want to take on. It doesn’t need to be some Mt. Everest thing. Most people who are successful in whatever it is they do (and that includes spirituality) don’t ALWAYS have a massive vision. Sometimes visualizing winning an NBA championship works for some people. More often than not though, they start out just wanting to get the ball into the basket and they love doing that and then want to get better at doing that and then their vision blossoms. Hope this helps ❤️

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Such a good HEALTHY example of Orange!

Been thinking to buy some of Vivekanda’s books! Thanks for sharing!

Here’s what’s always stumped me as this was my experience when I was on ADHD medication for 17 years: When I got off my Adderall, I lost all the “progress” I made when I was doing my meditation habit while on Adderall. I mean, after 17 years it was more of a bodily reliance to be at a baseline level of functionality. However, when I got off my medication and decided to get that shit out of my system, I not only lost all my progress in my meditation but I was in the negative. Although I’m optimistic about all this stuff on nootropics, from my experience though this sounds very similar to the effect of things like PEDs where you make MASSIVE progress while on them but only so long as you’re on them and then when you get off it’s totally different story. If I were to use a sports analogy: to me, and please tell me if I’m wrong, like we’re getting better results from training so long as we’re taking steroids. So we’re still putting in the hard hours every single day, that hasn’t changed, but those stunning results catalyzed by nootropics are only actualized so long as we’re taking nootropics on some sort of basis. I could be a great runner and running 100 miles per week and training hard and smart and take say EPO (performance enhancing drug for those that are unfamiliar) which will help me run even faster had I not been taking EPO which takes me to the next level. However, I’m only running that fast so long as I’m taking EPO. So in reality, to contrast that with say meditation, I didn’t really develop say better concentration in a way that lasted. Has this been your guys’ experience? I also don’t want to come off as though I’m making some sort of case for doing things “the old fashioned way”. So please don’t confuse this question with that.

“Everybody is right.” - Ken Wilber

I’ve been noticing this pattern in culture now recently where I notice people on YouTube, blogs, sports coaches, people on the street, TV, athletes, etc. using the term “ego” more than ever now. I don’t feel like this is an accident since personal development is a hotter business/industry than ever now and online success coaches and what not are flooded throughout social media more than ever. Have people been noticing this trend? Obviously they don’t know what it means ?

No I get you. Brian’s content just doesn’t resonate with me and my personality. I personally resonate more with Leos content and focus on combining nonduality and personal development in a very explicit, non apologetic, bigger picture way. I had Brian’s app but didn’t like it. Glad it works for you! @Gabriel Antonio @Emerald Thanks. Yeah I feel you guys might be right. I’d need to move out of the San Francisco Bay Area which I both do and don’t want to do but I’ll figure out something I guess...

Already know about it and have the app. Don’t find it that useful and doesn’t really resonate with me.

This is a question I’ve been puzzled by. Like, are people like Buddha just that much more enlightened than everybody and had that much more self mastery and that’s why they left their mark in history and are revered by even other VERY deeply enlightened people? Cause, we can great Zen masters today who are supposedly very deeply enlightened and even do a lot of shadow work and stuff this day in age (Doshin Roshi from Integral Zen comes to mind) but still stuck to a Buddhist practice which of course is a practice given by a sage thousands of years ago. Just been something that’s been on my mind these last few months

Take the life purpose course and stop asking variations on the same question.

http://www.theatreofyugen.org/ First thing I saw when I began my research into the term "Yugen" after seeing @Leo Gura's blog post on it... Located in the Mission District in San Francisco (not even 2 miles from where I live). Super cool. Thought I'd share

This is like a 3 year old asking how to beat Lance Armstrong in the Tour de France before the 3 year old knows how to ride a bike.

I don’t know. I’m not enlightened, not that far along the Spiral, etc. Maybe. He’s farther along than I am so hey, maybe I’m wrong. I’m open to that. Maybe he’s right about Leo, Sadhguru, and whoever else he deems unenlightened and deluded being a quack about nonduality and what not. I’m not enlightened so I can’t be here saying whose right and whose wrong about the nature of reality. My job is to discover it, be open as fuck, assume I’m wrong, etc. I just don’t see, from all that I study and practice, a deeply enlightened person needing to fit some sort of bill. I get it, he’s studied with Ralston and has done lots of 5-MeO. Cool. I just don’t think this approach to saying ‘fuck all these quacks and phonies, I’ve studied with the real ones and know the truth,’ is one grounded in greater wisdom or greater perspective. I’d put money down he’s never met @Leo Gura so I don’t think he’s in a position where I can take his criticism of Leo being some phony very seriously.

Yes and Michael Jordan had a “lucky” part of the bench he would always sit on, would wear in his old UNC basketball shorts in the NBA, but is that why he was MJ and as good as he was?... No. The guy was one of the most talented guys in the game and worked sickeningly hard.

I actually thought about this a lot today. I live in the San Francisco and have lived in the Bay Area for the 20 years of my 23 years of life and I’ve been to other 3rd world counties but haven’t actually explored much of the US or even California. I was deep up Northern California near the Oregon border and it stuns me all the time just how barren, broke, and undeveloped a lot of the parts of even the state of California is. A lot of that time was spent thinking ‘’man. I’m so involved thinking about how to get to stage Turquoise in life (and obviously yellow) that I’ve lost perspective.” I mean, the only places to eat we’re just a McDonald’s, Quiznos, Burger King, etc. you can see people shooting up (though we have a lot of that here in SF), run down homes, so many extremely obese people, etc. Actually got pretty a little disheartened because cities like San Francisco are developing more and more faster and faster every day , month, and year and these parts of the state/country are stagnated in their personal development for numerous decades now which means their economic situation is just going to get worse and worse since stage blue has become a lesser economic force over the years, leaving this kinds of people obsolete... and there are A LOT of them. Stage Orange growth only cares about advancing itself and not that which isn’t thriving. It doesn’t have a holistic enough collective development plan nor have much concern for the greater collective beyond Orange’s current collective that it situates itself in... even though Orange is only involved in that collective only for its own self oriented advancement of its agenda.

Interesting take on the use of Spiral Dynamics. @CreamCat @Joseph Maynor There’s really not that much of a point in talking about Coral, Teal, etc. the information is out there sure but the amount of time it takes to really embody all these parts of the Spiral takes a long time more often than not. Less %0.001 of the global population is at Turquioise. How about we get there first and then continue? It’s not talked about because the demand isn’t there. The demand is more for getting into the 2nd Tier. I personally find this whole TJ bashing people like Sadhguru, @Leo Gura , etc. to be just silly and a waste of time and actually hypocritical. He talks about how these people give off all this stuff about what enlightenment is and is not, how they’re all wrong (as though he knows them personally), that they’re full of shit, they’re fake, that they put on a mask of what enlightenment is and all this stuff in yet at the same time by definition of what he’s doing and saying and the way he’s doing is no different from that which he’s criticizing. He goes on this rants on enlightened gurus and enlightened youtubers and stuff and it’s like dude ‘you yourself are trying to tell other people what enlightenment is, how everybody else out there is except for the people you study are wrong and or full of shit, how you have it right, etc.’ I don’t know TJ at all. Seems like a developed guy for the most part. He personally doesn’t like me that much (gave me some advice that was helpful on IG and then saw I gave some criticism about him here on the forum and then went off on some rant on how I and these guys on the forum are full of shit and blocked me). However, the overall concern and approach over AI and how we need to wake up to the realities of what might come in the near future I think hold ground and need to be looked at. He just needs to chill the fuck out.

More videos on emotions and other such "negative" emotions (even there is no such thing as negative) : Anger Part 3 Pain Suffering Etc...

Master yourself deep enough and authentically and honestly ground yourself in genuine detachment (no real PUA is authentically detached) and all these pickup antics will seem childish and for kids.

Holy fuck it's just a metaphor or mythological framework of nonduality! My old Atheist paradigm get's more and more demolished each and every day... LOVE IT

I'm so stuck in fear, anger, rage, anxiety, and total stress right now and thus not able to take any steps because I'm so stuck in my head as I have so many things conflicting with each other and really need some advice. Right now I'm living in San Francisco at home. I NEED to leave home ASAP. This environment is fucking toxic and each day I stay home more and more I feel more and more disempowered, useless, unmotivated, angry, stuck, etc. I'm literally being pressured by my Dad screaming in my ear every single day that I need to pursue success hard and that I'm not a man how I have these moral obligations, that I owe him, that I should be working 80 hours a week, how I should fuck my passion, suck my boss's dick, I don't deserve happiness and that I need to shut up and work, how he's ashamed of me because of all this stuff, etc. I hear this everyday and I just bottle this in and can't work or focus on my Life Purpose because I'm screaming in my head or I'm about to beat the daylights out of him and I have so much built up stress and anxiety. I can't make a decision because I can't think straight. I want to make enlightenment, personal development, distance running, yoga, consciousness to be the backbone of my life and the business I want to start. I want out of here so bad but I live in this city I can't afford and I'm afraid to go tell my Dad to go fuck himself and I honestly can't bare another day being here. My work gives me no fucking hours (less than 10 hours) so I don't have the money to just move. I don't have a car now either. I thought about taking some classes online to build a career and learn some valuable skills like web development or something and I just get so pissed off because I'm like 'I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO BE DOING THIS! THIS IS GOING TO TAKE EVEN MORE TIME! WHY PURSUE SOMETHING I KNOW I'M GOING TO QUIT?!' I literally feel like I'm dying. Like I'm going crazy and am going to have a hysterical meltdown. I have no one to get some real wisdom or advice from. I feel like I need to leave NOW because I can't take this anymore but I don't know what step I should take because I can't calm down and think straight. Please, really need some advice.

Assuming Jesus was even a real historical character, which a lot of scholars in religious studies and history would suggest the stark possibility that he was merely and only and spiritual archetype and not a historical person. Agree in the anaology though.

Make the distinction in your direct experience between perception and the truth of whatever is in question.