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Idk what this babble has anything to do with what I just said hahahahaha wtf did I just read?

Jump off a cliff and then tell me as your falling to your death (of the body) whether you falling is still a story. And don’t give me a slick little nondual rationalization. Yes, in the Absolute there is no one to die and no one falling and no ground. In yet you will still fall until you hit the ground.

What should’ve happened is what happened. Whether you want to make a change or may find making any change in order to be more effective is up to you. Don’t take that as entitlement though as his reaction should’ve happened as well. Dont make a some spiral projection all because some guy barked at you. People get angry at any stage. You can find seething Green people that elicit hatred and prejudice. That’s not what Spiral Dynamics is about at all. As far as your reaction, notice how the fact that you’re afraid to go for a walk by definition shows how you’re actually not calm and you do take this personally. You may have shut yourself from being able to notice your reaction towards him, but really being calm is being able to brush it off. Speaking as someone whose done A LOT of stupid shit and has been threatened, just let it go. It’s over and done with. I wouldn’t be surprised if that guy saw you 2 weeks from now he wouldn’t even notice you. No need to be dramatic about this. Shit happens. Move on. Ain’t a big deal. People can talk a lot of shit when they’re pissed. You don’t need to psychoanalyze every situation that doesn’t go your way.

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"Walking away under the guise of renunciation or non-attachment is the easy path. It shows more spiritual fiber to live a godly life in the jungle of civilization. I love all. Even those who avow themselves my enemies. For I see the thee in every being." - Paramahansa Yogananda "The best way to find yourself is to lose yourself in the service of others." - Mahatma Gandhi “The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.” - William Butler Yeats "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner as the outer, and the above as the below, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male shall not be male, and the female shall not be female, when you make eyes in the shape of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter the kingdom." - Jesus Christ "It is your mind that creates the world." - The Buddha "It is the world that creates your mind." - The Buddha "Among the great things that are to be found among us, the being of nothingness is the greatest." - Leonardo da Vinci "Believe nothing; no matter where you read it or whoever said it, not even me." - The Buddha "In order to gain everything, you must lose everything." - The Buddha "He appeared unexpectedly and became unutterably United and merged with me, and leaped over to me without anything in between, as fire to iron, as the light to glass. And He made me like fire and like light. And I became that which I saw before and beheld from afar. I do not know how to relate this miracle… I am man by nature, and God by the grace of God." - Saint Symeon "For the One who has become many, remains the One undivided, but each part is all of Christ." - Saint Symeon "The more conscious we become, the more powerful we become." - Adyashanti "You must affirm the vow to never give up until you have become a Buddha and brought peace to this world… we are not saved by satori. We saved by the vow to attain satori." - Yamada Mumon "I am the light above everything. I am everything. Everything came forth from me, and everything reaching me." - Jesus Christ "Are you God?" - they asked. "No," - Buddha said. "Are you a saint?" - they asked again. "No," - Buddha replied. "Are you a celestial being?" "No." "Who are you?" "I am awake." "You can't pretend into profundity." - Peter Ralston "The privilege of a lifetime is being who you are." - Joseph Campbell “Why do you so earnestly seek the truth in distant places? Look for delusion and truth in the bottom of your own heart.” - Ryōkan "The village has disappeared in the evening mist And the path is hard to follow. Walking through the pines, I return to my lonely hut." - Ryōkan "No vexation, no enlightenment; no anxiety, no illumination." - Confucius "Wherever you go, there you are." - Jon Kabat-Zinn "The man was the message." - Mark W. Muesse "Paradox and Confusion are the guardians of the truth." - Peter Ralston "Where you stumble, there lies your treasure. The very cave you are afraid to enter turns out to be the source of what your are looking for." - Joseph Campbell "Do not seek to follow the footsteps of the wise; seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho "A moment's insight is sometimes worth a life's experience." - Oliver Wendell Holmes "The privilege of a lifetime is being who you are." - Joseph Campbell

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Great review! Gonna check it out! @okulele always love your posts! Deeply resonate with the way you communicate I feel your endearing passion for the path

@Koyaanisqatsi start charging one rolls Royce per question

Dude I was joking. I’m not going to even entertain the idea of discussing the possibility of whether or not that man is awake ?

Bhagavad Gita Yoga Sutras Vedas Shastras Tantrik Texts Ramayana Mahabharata Vedic Hymns Lalita Sahasranama

Wilber is Turquoise and above.

I think the only thing that would surprise me anymore is if he came out of the White House and just said it was all a joke, how he’s been Democrat all along, and hes actually enlightened.

These 3 matters arose for me back in early college when I had a more liberatarian view on the worldview which had me question the efficacy of what Bernie was proposing during the last democrat presidential nomination: Free Healthcare - First, we see in certain (I know of Australia and Cananda as examples but I don’t want to say all because I have no heard much on this issue in Northern European countries as I’m not as informed as I’d like to be right now so I don’t want to make overarching claims) democratic socialist countries where it can take for example 5+ hours to get treatment in an emergency room because hospitals become overrun with people who are going there for much smaller reasons which can make it harder for the people that actually need help to get the treatment they need. Second, I don’t see how this addresses the systemic issues that are pervasive in the health care industry. However, I could also see this from the POV that we still need to solve more level medical problems like being available to enough people before we can come up with more practical, creative, and systemic 2nd tier changes. Taxing The Top 1% (or really the top 0.01%) - I don’t remember what President it was nor the time era, but I recall in recent (or somewhat recent) French history there was an increase in the tax bracket for the most wealthy and the tax money France was trying to collect from them never came in because those that were receiving that tax bracket decided to literally leave the country to avoid paying. I’ve even heard this concern come from Mark Cuban who raised this remark when being interviewed - granted, I can see that he may have a bias when raising such concern regarding increased taxation and UBI because he may not be willing to pay more. Regardless, I still feel it’s a valid point worth considering. Free College - First, to be honest is a bit of a touchy subject for me so I probably have a bias in this stance as someone who left college and has ADHD that made school insanely difficult for me. My whole thing regarding this is simple and I’m not saying anything new - the entire school system is broken. Modern school is 150 years out of date. I’m stunned that were not seeing (radical) education reformation right now to help not even the playing field for kids with different who require different ways of learning but also actually learning in the first place and not just being a dog that jumps through hoops. Though it’s undeniable that someone will be more intelligent (depending what you call intelligence but that’s a separate matter) in certain types of intelligence than if he/she didn’t go to school at all, I don’t see how making college free in an age where college degrees for the most part is pretty much worthless is the answer. Now, maybe we need to go through this phase of helping those very underprivileged families in parts of America that are very uneducated to have that opportunity for maybe a generation or so before we make a real collective decision to bring forth a real systematic overhaul in education. Second, I still don’t see how we’re going to make schools like Stanford, CalTech, Ivy Leagues, and other such universities free. Also, what about those smaller liberal arts universities that are more specialized for certain types of people regarding either trade or even mental opportunities that rely on the funding they get to stay afloat?

@Alex bliss you will get more clear the more you’re honest with yourself. Don’t underestimate how powerful being honest with yourself is. No one can give you an answer man. Only you can know you. Only you can know when it is you truly do KNOW. It will be apparent. It’ll only be intellectual so long as you’re hiding at that surface level place. Develop concentration and mindfulness, inquire for you - not the question, be honest with yourself about everything that comes up, and surrender. If it helps though... notice that wherever you put your attention, there’s a very subtle sensation/thought that there is one that is experiencing. Put your attention on that and wonder.

@Koyaanisqatsi love it man very much appreciate the no fluff explanation. Very refreshing (particularly on here haha). Happy for you and glad I got to read your story!

As far as my take... I imagine Leo’s intent isn’t to snipe or berate people. However, I found with myself even relation to just myself, it can be taken that way. For me, I can really take the energy I get from videos to be extremely hard on myself to an extremely unhealthy degree. However, that is me doing that (and anyone else who has the same pattern in relationship with themselves or with other people). I do agree with what you’re trying to say. However I wouldn’t really call it personal. It’s calling someone on their behavior or given honest and explicit feedback rather than projecting one’s prejudice of another behavior in conjunction with the other as a person. There’s a big difference between saying “man, you’re acting like an asshole,” vs. saying “man you are an asshole.” The former can be honest feedback about (how you feel about) another’s behavior and the latter is just flat out projection. Now, that doesn’t mean the other person isn’t going to conflate those 2 distinctions as one thing. I think we can all recall at some point when we ourselves were given constructive yet seemingly harsh feedback but conflated it as a flat out insult. Thought it might be useful to share that.

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What is entailed in integrating trips? What are the common traps people miss when integrating their trips? What are you looking to do and focus on between trips to get really last changing and transformation from your psychedelic trips? What are the common hurdles to look out for? What are the normal yet very common challenges post-trip?

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Tantra is yoga. It’s a school of yoga. There is no “vs” here.

@Truth Addict notice how you never hold yourself accountable. Notice how much you assume about other people. Notice how you never back up anything you say. Notice your lack of self-reflection. I don’t need some childish 23 year old pretending he’s some master of nonduality who parrots Leo lecturing me lol. I don’t subscribe to any teacher but I do consult and talk to people who’ve been mastering this work for over 40 or even 50 years from Ralston, to Wilber who I’ve had the chance to talk to many times now here, to Doshin Roshi and many more. You’re little talk is nothing. You have no credibility. You are no teacher. Keep thinking you’re above me. Keep deluding yourself thinking you’re some master when really you’re a 23 year old behind a screen who has nothing to contribute on here put parroted lines from a teacher who does the work himself. I don’t know if you really believe the silly act you try to project on here but in any case, you’re only lying to yourself. Put your own talk to the test. If you’re as free as you proclaim, put it to the test. Live with nothing in a cave. Test how free you are of fear, pain, suffering, suffering in actual life and not just talk shit. I’m not saying prove it to me. Idgaf what you do. But your constant projections onto people on here is nauseating. Your bullshit is festering and it smells. Your shadow needs to be put in check. You can play your pedestal game all you want. I’m not the one acting like I’m above anyone. I’m honest and vulnerable with what I share on here. I’m honest about my things I know and don’t know. If I get in a healthy debate or discussion on here with someone, I can admit when I’m wrong. People who are constantly mastering this work are humble. You’re a 23 year old child as far as this work goes. Put your ego and self deception in check. I’m direct with people. If you’re acting like deluded narcissist whose trying to play power games with me, I will call you on it and I will be explicit with you to get the point across.

Yeah sorry you’re just wrong. You misunderstand what ego and spiritual development is. Ego literally means “I”. As that (illusion of) “I” develops, it transcends and includes prior stages of development. Which is to say, it’s sense of identity moves more towards absolutely everything. And this idea that when you’re enlightned you don’t have an ego is just a myth and if you go to enlightned masters, they will confirm the same thing. So long as you have a body functioning, an embodied perspective, you will have an ego operating because you currently operate as a limited form. What you are however is not any form and will never die. The perspective (your ego) that what your true nature is using as a vehicle to experience creation will die. Bottom line: - ego development and spiritual development are the same. Which is VERY different from saying ego development is the same as spiritual realization (which it’s not). - you wil have an ego till your body as a human dies.

Ego development and spiritual development are the same line of development

@peanutspathtotruth I would say if you’re a pretty stable guy emotionally, you had a stable upraising and development, and you’re already in a good place, you could probably go on your own for the most part (so long as you know what to do, you know what to look for, etc.). Shadow Work really helps but shadow work pretty much is pretty much spinning your wheels so long as you’re doing it on your own because the shadow is by definition the self/ego that can’t see itself. That pretty much requires another person or facilitator to help with that or having a good sangha for that that’s up to date. Not that you can’t realize your shadow on your own per say (although the deeper you go into it, the harder it is to spot because you don’t want to) but as far as integration because that is where the real work is. Realization isn’t really the hard part. Integration is. However, if you have the capacity to do it on your own (and that’s different from accepting to do it on your own because I’m speaking from a place of asking ‘do you have the capacity. Not the will) do it. Again, this is an individual thing but just remember to still consult people even if you do have the capacity to go it alone and act on that responsibility because you never know what you’re blind to. Martin Ball has a consultation service that is specifically for psychedelic integration. I just Skyped him on Monday and if that’s something you may be interested, you’ll be talking to someone whose done just 5-MeO-DMT alone literally well over 1000 times. I couldn’t recommend him enough. Like I said though, it’s an individual thing. For me personally, as much as I have the will (and stubbornness) to do this all on my own, I simply can’t and have to be honest with myself that I need help and a really good in-person support system given my hard upbringing that makes this work a lot harder for me than it would most people as far as the emotional domain goes. Trust your intution on this (not the mind nor your pride), be ruthlessly honest with yourself, and follow that. Way to keep taking responsibility

First off, I want to applaud you taking action, going out of your way to give this a shot. Good on you! I don’t say that lightly! Second, finding the right therapist takes time. It’s rare you land a good psychotherapist in one go. A lot of therapy is about finding that right one. In a way it’s like dating. Don’t waste time finding someone that isn’t right for you and isn’t going to understand you. Third, you have to understand that psychotherapy doesn’t directly deal with existential truth. Think of them like mechanics. They try to get an idea of the mechanics of your mind. Of course, they can only do that through their mind, which is why it’s important to land that psychotherapist that is going to understand you as a person, because “you as a person” is the same as understanding your mind, which is why they don’t really deal with existential truth (whether they realize it or not) because they mind itself is an illusion. Psychotherapists work with helping you to help yourself create a more “integrated illusion”. I’ve personally given up trying to explain this stuff to most people and even psychotherapists (even though my psychotherapist now is a really enlightened guy who used to study with Krishnamurti) because they only try to understand this through mind. Which is fine because that’s what you’re there to work on. Lastly, try using a psychotherapist to help with your psychedelic integration when you realize deep stuff around your own person and psyche. Psychedelics can open you up to really horrifying stuff about your own mind that can feel so impossible to integrate on your own. That could be huge for you. Hopefully this provides more perspective. Decide for yourself though what you feel is best for you. No one is in charge of you but you