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Though I’m not much of a fan of him he is spot on on a lot of matters while also not knowing some others. To ridicule the stuff he is correct on is rather silly. Take the gems and toss the rest and give credit where credit is due. Or don’t. Your call on that.

If you’re going to talk about nonduality, which is not what this post is about, then there are no children in Africa, there is no purpose, there is no meaning, there is no value, there is no Jesus, and there is no you. Jesus is a concept. There is no historical evidence to suggest such a person. Nonduality has no relationship to anything. As someone whose been around a lot of hippies having been raised in the bay and know more than enough hippies, burners, and new age people, they aren’t exactly genuinely loving people. A lot of it is victim culture and isn’t authentic in all of its talk about love and blah blah blah and is actually rather spiteful. Yes, they have more of a capacity for inclusiveness but you’re literally highlighting my point that all because you can have high capacity to love doesn’t mean you also don’t have both a high disowned capacity for hate, violence, etc. If you think that you’re trying to get far in this work by only trying to cling to love, light, and bliss then yeah... there’s nothing else to tell you than that you’re wrong. Any real authentic master worth their salt will tell you that all of the valuable growth has been going through the hideous aspects of themselves that they didn’t want to know about themselves. @Serotoninluv excellent story. Thanks for sharing. I can definitely attest to what you’re saying in my own life for sure. I personally would frame it differently but I get the spirit of what you’re saying. One of the things I think has served me is really when I commit to being both honest and being able to really take feedback from others and seeking that out.

Hence why post modern Green spirituality and western Buddhism is an absolute mess. Are you talking about Larry Nassar? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/31/us/usa-gymnastics-larry-nassar-settlements/index.html You illustrate the issue very well in your example though in the reaction to the crime of the doctor. Part of the problem though is that, for example, well educated and reasonably intelligent people, say in the US, tend to grow up in places that only hold a post modern or modern stage of development. So when a child grows up, they don’t really have the chance not ability develop say their egocentric and ethnocentric stages for example (and many other aspects). From the very get go once say a little boy is put into a school that is traditional in how the system works but is post-modern in its altitude of values and how they relate to their children, it’s not a container that’s okay for boys around 5 years old who may be very aggressive and high energy to integrate those tendencies and are instead force to try and sit still and pretend to be nice (something that wouldn’t really be to authentically grow into once they’re much older). So instead they have to repress and suppress such tendencies and then you have very angry kids who aren’t able to really socialize and are diagnosed with ADHD and have a chronic anger problem but have to put on this mask of being nice. You also touched on that compassion piece well. Most people aren’t REALLY compassionate at all. Most of those people who preach compassion are truly spiteful people and the degree to which they act compassionate is more often than not just that, it’s an act. They ape and preach compassion. As I like to say, kindness at the expense of honesty is lying. I wouldn’t even call though the “acts of compassion” to be compassion to even be that because in practice it tends to just perpetuate lies and that is of no real genuine service to the growth of others. Real genuine service to others is grounded exactly that, what’s real. However, what I said was not imagine putting ourselves in the others shoes. What I said was realize that there are aspects of ourselves that we don’t see that is ALREADY present. I am not speaking about nonduality here. What I am not saying is not “we literally are the rapist.” That is not the point I am making. I am talking about the shadow or the unconscious, loosely speaking if we’re to use those terms. The point I am making is that is that is that you as a self right now have an inner racist, an inner rapist. Jordan Peterson actually articulates it very well. Can you find that aspect of your self that has the capacity to kill and harm others to an extraordinary degree? The “trick”, if you will, is that in its not in some hidden far distant place or aspect of experience. Imagination exercises are nothing compared to really getting in real time that we might actually be just as much of a racist as the people that support Trump.

The only one deluding you is you. I suggest you take and recognize your responsibility for both your own delusion and degree consciousness. It is neither useful nor true to try and experience your relationship in the use of psychedelics as something else doing something to you. From the standpoint of mind this post is about, psychedelics merely amplify that which is already so for you. If you fall into greater delusion it’s because you’re not honest about what is honestly so for you. The “antidote“, if you will, is honesty and responsibility for your own self, ego, mind, emotions, and consciousness. You and only you is the problem and the solution.

There are 3 perspectives we can look at this from: There are states like Nirrodha samadhi that would take training. This where you see videos like Ken Wilber stops his brain waves, Vietnam monks protest the war in the 60s and 70s where they sit like a rock while being set on fire and burn to the ground not moving an inch. There’s also where you recognize that pain is really just a thought. The very reaction is a thought. As said in The Book of Not Knowing, which you yourself can discover to be true in your own experience, “pain may be ‘so’ but it’s not ‘true’.”. What pain is is a thought that you’re doing. Pain itself is something you create. Realizing this doesn’t mean you walk around pain free or something like that. Your relationship to it would just transformed. You can also learn to experience pain as just a different kind of state of bliss.

Don’t get it

Ralston had been contemplating since he was a kid in other areas. Ralston is, as he put it, obsessive and has a relentless work ethic. Things didn’t grow on trees for him. He put in the work. He wanted to know. He also, as I’ve heard, suffered a lot. A lot of great enlightened masters I’ve sought out met and I am very fortunate to say have become teachers of mine have had hellish childhoods, ADHD, OCD, drug addiction, suicide attempts, etc. It’s very simple... do you want to know the truth? Are you committed to honesty? Are you committed to follow your heart’s yearning to know, regardless of what that might entail? Are you committed to admit you don’t know shit and that all this regurgitation of insights of giants who’ve come before you is just arrogant bullshit lies and that really you don’t know? Are you committed to taking on the source responsibility of knowing the truth beyond just the ideal of doing so? If yes then you can. Trying to discuss this stuff in technical detail on these matters will never end. It can serve good utility to have a conceptual framework but eventually it really just becomes a distraction and a waste of time and all of it really is wrong at the end of the day. We can make elaborate explanations using things like karma, trauma, “giftedness”, yogic models, Buddhist maps, spiritual texts, stages of ego development, etc. but that discussion hasn’t ended for thousands of years (which is under the assumption of a past and history) and it’s certainly not going to end now. If you want to wake up, go do it. Do whatever you have to do to do that. Stop trying to play compare and contrast of people that in the end don’t exist anyways.

“Suffering is the way.”

@Chumbimba Though I’m no follower of JP, this is the most insightful thing I probably ever found on ADHD after 16 years of homework.

Ralston is not a Zen master as he is not part of any tradition. So no.

As someone with really difficult ADHD I can tell you that it’s not as big of an obstacle that it appears. I found Culadasa’s perspective rather helpful but as far as enlightenment goes, yeah it’s not an issue. I have found Hatha yoga shatkarma practices very helpful as well. I study with a Very highly enlightened Zen master who had ADHD so bad in the 60s he resorted to methodone to try and stop his internal craziness and yeah... when I look at him it’s very clear it’s not an excuse or anywhere near as much of a setback. It really is just a matter of doing the work though. I recommend cleaning up your diet to what works for you. Again though, as far as enlightenment, it’s not an obstacle. Truth realization is not dependent on state as crazy as that may sound.

WATCH THIS. WATCH THIS NOW. @Leo Gura

@kag101 awesome stuff. You sound very similar to me. What kind of psychotherapy are you getting? Inwould also point out that though, as counter intuitive as it may sound, that even enlightened people can feel very depressed. I actual have a friend I made out in Boulder, CO who has gotten very far in her consciousness work but still suffers from waves of what seemed like depression and even suicidal episodes. What’s important to understand is that these events are applying to a particular person that doesn’t exist. Or to put it more properly, Absolute Truth is true regardless of what is going on. You can still have suicidal moments and in a twisted sense still be totally fine with it all at the same time. In the end it can’t really be explained but it happens. Personally for me my biggest breaks in my own enlightenments happen during waves of deeps spells of depression.

Whose the one saying that? Look man, if you want to heal, then experiment with what effective resources you can utilize to facilitate that aim. There is no right path, right direction, right trajectory, etc. in the end. I suggest you get honest with yourself about that and also with what you want. The likeliness of 1 trip “ruining” your life is unlikely. I would bet you most people who’ve gone into 5-MeO are still more or less the same self they were before they took it. Also, don’t confuse states for Absolute Truth. What’s true is true NOW and you don’t need some far out state to become conscious of what’s true. However, that takes responsibility and accountability to own that and do the work despite of that. Working on the person is done in the world of relativity. When you get honest and listen to your heart and follow what your heart knows (and not how your mind interprets the knowledge of your heart), you’ll know what to do... and when you do, DO IT.

Meaning is a human perspective that serves as a utility for survival and is not inherently true. Meaning is something that’s used, not something that is.

From a third person perspective, I would say it depends on a lot of factors. What the person whose being bullied is dealing with internally and also externally. How it’s effecting their mind and so on and also what their tendencies are when dealing with confrontation like this. For example, are they someone who just tends to take it and internalize it? Or do they stand up for themselves? So on and so on. Is this a guy whose getting bullied or a girl and also what age we’re talking about. Is the person that’s getting bullied someone whose dealing with a short term period of getting shit from some bum who or is it a long term pattern of continually being stepped on and not knowing how to set boundaries? The truth is that there is no set in stone universal way of dealing wit this. Sometimes you do need to stand your ground and punch someone in the mouth and run your mouth back at the person. Sometimes you need to go to a superior to deal with the situation. Sometimes you need to learn how to fight. Ultimately, if it’s a situation you can take personal responsibility for by handling it purely yourself and directly, I would recommend that route.

Yes. Here's a good question... how is knowing and not-knowing the same? If you contemplate for example who you are and it's a real honest inquiry (rather than some mechanical technique), notice how you actually honestly don't know anything because all knowing is predicated upon the illusion that there is a separate "I" who knows that. Not-Knowing and Absolute Knowing are the same.

Interview with the man behind the film on Rebel Wisdom.

First off, I want to be clear on a few things: I have not made any committed decisions yet Even if I do commit to this, this will still be a few years down the road before I really pull the trigger on this I’m not interested in the spiritual dogma of why this yearning is a distraction. If this is what I want, and I’m still clarifying that, I will commit to this. @Leo Gura I’ve taken the life purpose course so many times I can’t even count at this point. I’ve gotten in touch with what I really want out of life and it’s really simple: I want to know what everything is and live that. I don’t want to frame this as “I want to become God” because for me personally (I’m not talking about anyone else here. If that resonates with any of you, that’s fine as long as you’re responsible) I just feel like that’s narcissism. Consciousness has been its own reward for me. I’m just honest and frank here in that, there is no sort of contributive motive from this. I don’t want to sit here and say something like “I want to awaken mankind” or some such thing as that wouldn’t be authentic for me to say that. I don’t want to be anybody. If as a result of doing this work I’m able to really contribute to the world, that would be icing on the cake. The only thing I want is to know what everything is. Not just Absolute but relative. You and Ralston really helped open that door for me that consciousness work doesn’t just have to apply to Absolute Truth realization. I want to know what is an object, what is science, what is the mind, how did it come to be, what are my emotions, what is self, how is self different from ego, etc. I have at least a thousand questions on just relative matters. Though I don’t prefer to word it like this, I’ve had a lot of recent enlightenment experiences and glimpses recently. The other day I was driving doing inquiry and realization dawned that what I am is nothing. The rest of the day for several days there was no one there to communicate that. There was no even experience of a person named Kieran or a mind (same thing) that even came up. There was a moment where I almost died while driving (no accident) and there wasn’t even an emotional in the moment leading up or after because fear only occurs when there’s the belief that there is even a person here. The more realization dawns, the more clear it is that this is all I’ve ever wanted. There is no agenda beyond this. I’m starting to make plans on going to travel to India and give a look around to kinda see if the whole cave thing is something I feel would be right. We could call this me making small bets. I really have no desire to follow anyone. I have no desire to follow any guru or teacher (which is not to say I don’t want to get their POV so I can expand my horizon). I have no interest in even subscribing to any tradition or system. I, like you, go from psychedelics, contemplation, meditation, to yoga. I really don’t have a desire or feel any real honest truth on my end to still live in this world. I’ve done a lot of the fun crazy shit that’s come with being a human. Sex, parties, raves, some degree of athletic success, met the famous people of all walks of life, etc. and the more I do, the more indifferent and irrelevant it all is to me. Which is to say I feel indifferent to people. I want to love, accept, and be good to all people but I still have a lot of shit I need to work on. And that motive to be more loving, accepting,, etc. is simply the case because I feel happier when I am in line with that and I actually feel like that’s what I’m the most truthful and honest. Not because I want followers. I don’t want followers. All I want is to know the truth and understand and know what everything is. I’m not trying to be Superman or some Jesus fantasy and save the world. If there is any contribution that’s going to come from my life, it will be after. The Buddha’s goal was Truth, the contribution came as a by-product. As was Sadhguru, Mahavira, Christ, Ramana, and virtually every other sage that came after. Like I said above, I’m still holding off pulling the trigger. I have A LOT of emotional work I need to do, shadow work, etc. that I’m actually in the process of doing that will take time. I plan on still testing this by going to some retreats and meeting more sages (going to meet Wilber and Ralston soon) and what not. I understand I don’t need to “reach” enlightenment by living in some cave (or whatever it is I do. I’m not stuck on a cave - open to other ideas and aternatives). This is simply what I want and I’m tired of the distractions. I want to work my ass of in this and put in the work. This where I want my hard work and deepest efforts to be put into. With that said, I’d appreciate feedback.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/09/20/jordan-peterson-enters-rehab-after-wifes-cancer-diagnosis/amp/

Leo’s response above is different from the case in that video.

This is just getting ridiculous https://www.christiantoday.com/article/is-jordan-peterson-the-new-messiah/124312.htm https://medium.com/@amandalouisegleaves/is-dr-jordan-peterson-a-post-modern-messiah-1f703631af0b https://theweeflea.com/2018/01/23/is-jordan-peterson-the-new-messiah/

Profound, inspiring, and series of books but no energetic transsmissions. Agreed that though energetic transmissions have nothing to do with space and time.

I already asked a post about this matter when I asked about free will in yet I was just ridiculed for suggesting that there is a free will. Can you please be clear on where you stand on this?

Sounds like me with running lol. My hips are so knitted up after all these years of running that it’s been difficult to get mobility I didn’t know was even remotely possible for me. My real issue that I seem to have in body when I sit how tension I have in my lungs when I sit, particularly without backpack support. To be metaphorical, my lungs feels like I’m grabbing onto a rubber chew toy and I’m squeezing it and I can’t let go. Can’t even really do pranayama because of the amount of anxiety I have in my system. Reichian therapy like morning gagging help a little bit but not much. It’s been a huge challenge for me.