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@Revolutionary Think I didn't see your reply to me and the question, my apologies. I experienced significant abuse as a child and became abusive youth myself as a result. To heal and change I've put in a considerable amount of work on myself and then continued on in more deeper enlightenment seeking.

@Wyatt Being virtuous could be a stumbling block, too. Just seek to discover the motivations behind the revelations and find out if they are helpful to your goals or will distract from them.

It's not age that is the main contributor to this, it's how most people are regardless of age. Go to a 10, 20 or 30 year HS reunion and people are still stuck in a "stuff"measuring contest. Use it as an opportunity to transcend your own stuff, especially the stuff that comes up in you because of the people you have to deal with. In the long run it will prove to be a vital skill that will never lack a reason to exercise it.

Examine the motivation behind the idea by what it's ultimately leading to. Is it to justify identity? Or construct a belief system? Is it creating separation in perception of the now or away from being aware? Is it leading to liberation from mental constructs or limiting beliefs systems? It's it calling attention to being aware? These are just examples of the many ways but essentially it's about discerning if the revelation has value for your seeking enlightenment, not just a clever idea that is a badge of identity.

@Barna Be interested in the experience of being aware

@Shin Something did happen in my body.... but I let it out..... and blamed the dog.

It seems you prefer to be distracted from being, enjoy it.

I listening doing something? I guess it is as much as observing is doing.

@Barna In the same way we are now, when else could we be? Be attentive to being here now. Not distracted so as to forget it.

@Barna Here's my step by step guide to infinite enlightenment. Step 1 : Be here now Step 2 : See step 1 Step 3 : See step 2 Step 4 : See step 3 Step 5 : See step 4 Step 6 : See step 5 Step 7 : See step 6 Step 8 : See step 7 Step 9 : See step 8 Step 10 : See step 9 keep going on to an infinite number of steps needed to achieve enlightenment.

This peace is not the opposite of war, it's contentment and fulfillment. I don't cultivate them, just being here now cultivates it in me.

Will you give up telling other people what they should do and what you believe they are?

You don't seek to be at peace? Hmmm interesting. With just being here now this creates and cultivates peace, joy, love and faith in me.

Yes, faith is an innate force Belief is a mind trust construct.

@Prabhaker Be at peace with what you will.

Very many times, yes I do surrender. It's an amazing experience since it is an emulation of infinite consciousness first moment of being.

I have experienced facing this. One thing to keep in mind, the infinite void is the absence of all things and is eternally devoid... it's the infinite void.

@Prabhaker Trading one belief for another and relabeling it doesn't change what it is.

Well, that's awesome to hear I personally don't let belief be a stumbling block to me in that I don't view them as preventing me from being at peace.

"be·lief/bəˈlēf/ noun an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists. trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something." -------------------------------------------------------------------- "trust/trəst/ noun firm belief in the reliability, truth, ability, or strength of someone or something." It seems the difference you believe is immense is not that at all. Your reply is filled with ideas and concepts you believe in including but not limited to what is a "real man" to you and insulting people who believe. Sometimes limiting beliefs can be about belief itself.

This thread is in need of a group hug

Just be

What is called enlightenment is just being, it doesn't take any work to just be, although to be at peace with it may take some cultivation of the mind. Very rarely will someone have a mind that is predisposed to being at peace with just being because in developing as a child we get conditioned in ways not conducive for being at peace. So when we just be with a mind in unrest we are miserable just being with that. This is why people work to prepare the mind so it's adapted for just being and being at peace with it. Personal development is working with the consciousness for a different goal than seeking enlightenment. It's more focused on finding our personal preferences and satisfying the needs and desires that are typically associated with the self conscious. The overlap of the two differing methods comes where in personal development the individual seeks peace, contentment and happiness with themselves. Someone can find peace and happiness without reaching the type of enlightenment that those who are seeking that, do. Although, it will follow similar ideas and concepts in the mind to find it in both methods. At some point the paths of seeking personal development and seeking enlightenment diverge because of the intent of the seeker.

@Bronsoval @The Universe ..............................................................

I started so very miserable and troubled youth. It can be a challenge to be at peace, en-joy and in love with life.. It took a while to get it though but I can still get distracted, life is complicated sometimes and the ego is easily distracted......squirrel!