SOUL

It seems the phrase 'abiding in awareness' is an accurate expression of it. Being awareness as well. Any of the insights and wisdom one would perceive in being awareness are just artifacts of the experience and the presence or absence of those doesn't add or detract from 'abiding in awareness'.

Jokes on you.... I was never here because there is no one to be here, no here to be and no you to have been joked.... at least that's how the story goes.

Wait.... aren't we already in a time share? Since we are in a god share which the time share is a subsidiary of it along with consciousness share, space share and experience share. Maybe if I sell all my shares I can afford to retire because I'm so tired of this sheet, so tired I need to be re-tired. Thank you.... I'll be here all week!...maybe.

I am familiar with both of these individuals before this situation developed and have some interesting perspective to share about this. For one thing and the most important in my mind is that the online social media world as well as the gaming world there is a definite need for a path to well being. Millions even tens of millions of people and content creators are spreading misery through a cycle of abuse all over the internet....well, not just the internet. I could expand it to hundreds of millions and yes billions of people empowering the cycle of abuse in real life all over the world. Mental health care in the US is very expensive and has a stigma attached to it, I'm not sure how much different that is in other countries because I don't have personal experience with the health care systems there regarding mental health. Although, I suspect the stigma associated with seeking therapy of any sort isn't limited to North America so people are reluctant to seek it out and this isn't leading to an improvement in people's mental health or well being. I don't want to give too many opinions about the clash of content creators in the circumstance but it doesn't seem like DrK was intentionally malicious towards anyone even if there were some breaches of ethics or conflicts around profit motives, he genuinely wanted to help even if he made mistakes. It's not up to me to decide whether he did something to violate his oath but I don't accept as truth the opinions of others who have nothing to lose either. On the other hand I don't get a similar impression from the other party in this situation. Contrary with them professing a purpose of increasing empathy for others their actions speak to a different source of motivation at least on how it effects those that consume their content. I cannot discern someone's intent I can only witness their behavior and how if influences others but that is what we are left with from their actions, not their intentions. There is also something very saddening about the tragic loss of a content creator. Even though he had a traumatic experience with the mental health profession he still reached out wanting to heal the self suffering he was experiencing but unfortunately it wasn't sufficient enough to ease the pain and save him from himself. I don't think it helps anyone in trying to use him as a weapon or a shield, just let it be. There is also something kind of curious in a statement I saw him make in one video I watched even though I can't remember which one it was and I can't recite it verbatim only give a synapses of his message. Reckful said he felt like there was nothing left to do here, like he was in some video game, that he needed to move on to the next level and the only way to do it might be to die. I absolutely knew exactly where he was since I have been living it for decades. Now don't get the wrong idea, I'm not suicidal at all, in fact it's the complete opposite. When I realized I was 'done' here I was young living life on the edge and didn't expect to survive my 20s, I thought I was in overtime so to speak. I was awakened and transcended identity, so think about how many speak about life here, too. There's a similar theme, no? I think many of us know exactly where he was in consciousness because we have had glimpses of it or are there. He was using psychedelics not just hero dose quests but also in daily microdose scenarios. So he was transcending identity and experiencing no self awareness but wasn't getting the feedback from the people around him to put all the pieces together and have a healthy context for what he was perceiving. He was left to his own monkey mind's machinations and history of self suffering to sort out his path and what happened, did. This doesn't mean the psychobabble people go in circles with on this forum would have been any better but there is wisdom that would have been useful to him. I'm not going to turn this into a criticism of people on this forum or anywhere in the spiritual and mystical community but you people are lost and distracted from the mental navel gazing that goes on with all the complicated conceptualizations that people fixate on. I just wonder what might have been if he got some input from people who have experience in the abstract conscious states and had the well meaning approach to bring about healing and well being. I guess we will never know but this whole drama whoring content farming circus performance just reminds me that this isn't going to get any better any sooner unless there is a dramatic shift in people so they seek well being for themselves.

Administrating and moderating a forum of any kind is a challenge but with this type of forum there's an additional layer of challenge to it. Not only are the admin and mods trying to herd the cats involved with typical internet culture they are doing it on a forum of exploring abstract mysticism while themselves are also pursuing the esoteric insights of abstract mysticism. One of if not the most powerful influence in our lives is direct experience and we trust that our perception of this experience is as we perceive it to be. This is such a strong psychological feature of our mind it is literally what creates the self identity of us. So I exercise patience with others but especially with those who are taking on the task of the cat rodeo even if they don't necessarily return the favor because I understand the nature of what is unfolding with all of this. I hope members and mods ..oh, admin too, not let all the swirling sensations of the imagination get too much for them that they take it out on others, it's a distraction. That being said can someone do something about the BS 3 point warning I got 3 years ago for what was an innocent and innocuous comment... haha.... I couldn't help myself. Peace!

To be fair, your avi is jokerfied....hehe

solipsism belief says it's all projection...

So, according to this idea of solipsism people who don't exist are upset that someone who doesn't exist took down something that doesn't exist about something that doesn't exist? Hm It's much simpler to just be....but I guess minds gotta monkey around, though.

Practices are pointers but implied in the pointer is that there is something to be pointing at that's separate. The mind/ego uses them to keep us separate from what already is. It's like all the stories we use to explain, the number of distractions the mind/ego creates is endless. We can keep going round and round about wondering if this or that works or not but that's emblematic of the struggle the mind/ego uses to justify itself. Once you're done struggling you may just 'surrender', just cease efforting to make something that already is, it's the realization of being awareness.

Please don't think I'm being critical or dismissive when I say this but right there in the response is doing practices and seeking states. The mind/ego is very sly in how it uses the appeal of activity and conditions to keep us jumping through hoops and fire walled away from something as an appearance of separation from a goal or something to attain. You have been on this forum a long time with many posts....eventually you will get tired of the game the mind/ego is using to keep the monkey dancing for peanuts and if so you may stop playing along and dancing to appease it. Or you may continue on for even longer trying to find the right mix of activity and conditions to attain an apparent elusive goal that in reality is always present. I'll also say don't be frustrated with yourself and disturbed by not 'getting it', this is another trick of the mind/ego is creating a distraction from being awareness. Just be at peace with things as they are even if the mind/ego is generating all this activity and stimuli in attempt to grab the attention to justify it's identity. Eventually it will become natural to stay present no matter the conditions of the mind or body.

Yea, the mind/ego is always searching for activities to do, conditions to be met, understanding to attain, goals to achieve and on and on as if we don't already have awareness to abide in. Being awareness just is which you have already expressed how you have experience of it but it's only the mind/ego that is distracting you from it and then giving you circumstances to seek to get 'back' to it when in reality it's always present 'now'. I'm not sure what anyone can say that will have you stop searching for what you already have, even the explanations of it may be serving as a distraction.

@Raptorsin7 It's just simply the mind/ego is using the activity of surrender/letting go as an obstacle to being present even to the extent of doing an activity of not doing to distract from being.

Anytime

Somebody has to say it...you're welcome.

Millions of posts and millions of hours spent online collectively telling each other you don't exist is absolute internet spirituality nonsense.

@Raptorsin7 I noticed something in the initial post of the thread then it was revisited in your response to a reply so I would ask you to read the thread again since it's only a few posts deep and tell me if you notice it as well. Did you notice it? The quote you posted wasn't all that explicit about it but it surely revealed the challenging nature of your point of the thread. How difficult it is to not do.....not doing.... anything. We actually screw up not doing anything.... by doing it... and doing... something. The quote mentions spiritual practice with a goal, the doing of something to attain something. That goal? Simplicity of awareness... and the recommended? To surrender...the letting go of the activity of the mind is a credible recommendation that many espouse. Except that the ego will use this as another thing to do to get something. Surrendering, the letting go of the activity is another activity with a goal that is desired because it is an unmet condition for what is being sought. You see how sneaky the mind can be? You even say it yourself in your response to the other reply, "it seems like I can't surrender even though I think I'm doing the same thing as when the surrender comes easy". See? You say 'doing the same thing', an activity to create desired conditions to attain something you perceive you don't have. We don't have to do any activity of 'surrender' to attain awareness because awareness is as you suggest, effortless, it just is. Even if there is activity of the mind that may serve as a distraction from the simplicity of awareness doesn't require us to do an activity of surrender to be present in awareness. We just can BE present in awareness, it's always being presence and there is no activity that allows for it to be there, it always is. So don't let the ego use the activity of surrender to attain some condition that it acts like you don't have to distract from being present in awareness.

The very definition of belief is 'trust that it is true' so whether it's Christianity or any other religious doctrine for someone to believe it is them actually trusting it is the truth. Even the 'truth' on this forum that people believe is them trusting it is true. Their direct experience, their awareness of it, their perception of it, their understanding of it...it's just them trusting it is the 'truth'.

Professing to know what happens to another after death is arrogant as well so does this mean they get their own measure 100 fold for eternity, too? Be aware of what one believes is real because it very well may be real even if it is naught but just an illusion.....

@Someone here The unconscious mind will generate anxiety and worry because it feels threatened by something and it rises to our conscious mind to alert us of this threat which disturbs our peace of mind. One of the things that threatens the mind is anything that threatens identity and sense of self. The very work of detaching from and transcending identity so expanding awareness beyond just the sense of self threatens the mind's natural inclination to preserve identity and sense of self. When your mind generates anxiety and worry then you should celebrate because your work to detach from and transcend identity is bearing fruit so the mind is trying to attract your attention back to your sense of self. It wants you to believe those feelings are valid to justify it's sense of self. It doesn't require deep analysis to find out the source of the anxiety and worry because that's just another way the mind uses to validate the feelings and justify identity. Yes, some may benefit from self analysis but be aware that it can become a fixation and creates more attachment. There may be some challenges to endure along the way yet eventually the unconscious and conscious mind will find a harmony in just being present and we experience 'peace of mind'.

If I am asked to believe his teaching that one creates their own reality of having this power to externally effect things to happen in the manifest and we all do. Then I have to wonder why is he creating the earth's cataclysm? The content is obvious what it is. People are addicted to the imagination of telling the story, an apocalyptic tale of epic endings in all the different flavors of expression. It's not much different than what happens even here with the mind of telling stories. Here the story goes that the epic ending is absolute infinity. We are all god, nothingness is the only thing that exists and everything else is a dream. The end.

@ing your own self to argue about spirituality is about the most internet mysticism thing I ever seen...

I'm not constructing or deconstructing anything, I'm looking at what is. Dualism is a perception of the mind, it's not a thing other than in the mind. It is the human mind that lumps emotions, sentiments and concepts into two 'oppositional' groups. You said non-dual, I didn't because I'm aware that dualism is in the mind so once I transcended dualism in my mind's perception I realized it's not really anything so don't use it to understand my perspective. It's you who is perceiving dualism in the two concepts but are assuming it is my perception and you apparently cannot perceive something other than it. Maybe I can give you some insight to the perspective of the mind that doesn't perceive things in a dualism. When I said 'unhelpful' you probably are seeing that as one side of a dualism with 'helpful' on the other side as if they are opposites. In my mind helpful is an effect, a helping effect but unhelpful is no effect, it's neutral. Along the spectrum of the 'helping' dynamic is hindrance, it's blocking help, we don't perceive it as neutral because it keeps us from help. Now can you see how once the perception of dualism and pairing up things in oppositional poles is transcended it creates more clarity so things can be viewed as they are for what they are. Another issue with dualism perspective is that the oppositional mindset manifests conflict in the mind between the perceived two sides. As well as an exclusivity perception, it's one or the other, it's a challenge to perceive things as a whole or both, it creates division.... the separation. I thought about which word I would use for that pretty long and I chose 'unhelpful' because in my perspective it is neutral not the opposite of helpful, it's the absence of help, not working against help though it appears to be blocking help. If I did have an assumption it would be that people seek to resolve the oppositional perspective and be free from a conflicted mind. Of course dualism would be considered 'helpful' if one wanted to create the oppositional conflicted mind. To bolster the sense of separation and justify identity dualism would be 'helpful' yet this would also create the oppositional and conflicted mind. All we have to do is look at society around us to find the evidence of this, it doesn't take much contemplation to recognize it. This isn't a matter of truth or valid, those concepts are from the perception of dualism and why they came to your mind since you are so keen of fostering the dualism. Yea, I probably shouldn't assume what people really want.

Wow... this kind of turned into a dog pile on Leo. C'mova here brotha and give yourself a big hug....

@Scholar Maybe I should have been more clear and less snarky about how I felt your response was empty of a point since you didn't really say anything. What part of that bolded quote did you think I was making an assumption? That it's unhelpful? That emotions, sentiments and concepts aren't a dualism? Or maybe it is just an assumption of yours that they are a dualism and it's helpful to view them that way so see me saying they aren't and it isn't is seen as an assumption by you?

I have a meditation for this issue... sit quietly and observe the screen of your computer, take notice of the 'X' in the corner of the tab of your internet browser for this website and click the 'X'. Feel better? No? Keep doing it until you do. Your welcome.