Ananta

I had this same issue in the past. I smoked for many years, then vaped for 6 yrs. It seemed as though one part of me hated it and another loved it. It was an internal battle. Anyways, my teacher said it was do to vasanas and which ever is strongest wins! So, if your vasana to smoke is stronger then your vasana for health, then it's a difficult condrum and the vasana to smoke will win. Vasanas can be neutralized though, if that's the case, then you could resist the need to act on them. I quit nicotine completely a year ago. So what are vasanas? "Vasanas are a bundle of tendencies or desires which drive man to think, feel and act according to the nature of the vasanas. Thus, it would be perfectly right, to say that a man is what he is because of his vasanas. Vasanas create desires in the intellect. If the person does not use his discrimination but permits the desire to ‘gain strength’ or to ‘take root’, the intellect passes it on to the mind where the desire produces agitations. Emotions and feelings become so strong that the body is then ordered and forced to carry out actions to satisfy the desire!" Extracted from “A manual of Self Unfoldment” by Swami Chinmayananda, pg 173

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@Outer bahaha! That explains it!

@Outer +1

Exactly! I wasn't going to mention the PM's or I wouldve done that yesterday, but in this thread he was saying he's above arguments, etc and peeps here deserve to know the truth. That actually he sends abusive PM's to posters while he's posting how much he loves everyone.

Also, someone just PM'd me and said you PM'd them today telling them they are ignorant, etc. Case closed. Your an idiot. Carry on.

No, you'll just PM the poster. Like you did yesterday to me, to inform me you think I have an attitude, that I should hand my life over to a teacher and how my independent thinking isnt good for me. Anyways, I'm over it, carry on, but please don't PM me again with your crap. Thank you

Thoughts, feelings, emotions, sensations, etc are subtle matter (or energy), therefore part of the phenomenal world.

Exactly!

Basically, yes. They don't have an ego. But, they are always in the present moment. (Ie, they don't have thoughts of past or future). Their minds just don't have the ability to know their true nature. My cats sure seem like little Budda's though...lol.

@Rilles nice! Imo, they are very subtle objects. Yep! Waking mindfulness works the same way. Meaning, no need for sitting meditation, if that's not ur thing. Right, you can't stop it permanently anyways, because it's not you that is that thinker of the thoughts to begin with. What are you referring to here?

@Etagnwo +1

Oooo, don't ruin it! I want one of those lollipop rings! Hehehe

@Etagnwo I guess the secrets out, best tell the kiddies of our engagement. LOL!!!

I love real butter, yum!

The choking comment was a joke, because I said Rumi's quotes were "word salad". Ya-know...choke on salad... haha. Geesh Listen, I appologized to you..but if you aren't going to accept my apology, then so be it. Anything else you'd like to say...?

Awe, I missed you so much where have you been? Xoxo!!!! Thanks for setting me straight! Oh you're sooooooooooo right. God, I'm soooooooo afraid. How did u know wise one??? Lmao!

@blazed Oops I pissed you off. Sorry about that. I'm just blunt and somewhat opinionated. Don't mind me, carry on.

Yes, I know! It's sad really. I recall all the crazy crap I thought years ago from listening to the wrong people. It can have you chasing your tail for a very long time. I'm glad that's over.

Well, hopefully no offense will be taken by this, but Leo is not my teacher (to me, he's just the guy that runs this website), so if he'd like a quote on his signature from this word salad guy, then I'd say, it's really not my business. But, in this thread Leo said to you, "There is no such thing as non-existence, only existence. Non-existence is a concept existing in your mind." So, if you think of Leo as your teacher (or one of your teachers), then he's telling you he doesn't agree with what Rumi is saying about non-existence , right?

Oh my, that's a lot of word salad. I feel like I'm choking on it. His usage of the word non-existence is just ridiculous. My advice would be to get yourself another teaching.

You crack me up!

Yeah, right! Lol

@Mikael89 Sweet!

Um, yeah, no. Truth/awareness is Sat-chit-ananda, which indicates "limitless conscious existence". Perhaps, insights while tripping on acid, aren't all that reliable. Just sayin'