Ananta

@Outer +1

Exactly! I wasn't going to mention the PM's or I wouldve done that yesterday, but in this thread he was saying he's above arguments, etc and peeps here deserve to know the truth. That actually he sends abusive PM's to posters while he's posting how much he loves everyone.

Also, someone just PM'd me and said you PM'd them today telling them they are ignorant, etc. Case closed. Your an idiot. Carry on.

No, you'll just PM the poster. Like you did yesterday to me, to inform me you think I have an attitude, that I should hand my life over to a teacher and how my independent thinking isnt good for me. Anyways, I'm over it, carry on, but please don't PM me again with your crap. Thank you

Thoughts, feelings, emotions, sensations, etc are subtle matter (or energy), therefore part of the phenomenal world.

Exactly!

Basically, yes. They don't have an ego. But, they are always in the present moment. (Ie, they don't have thoughts of past or future). Their minds just don't have the ability to know their true nature. My cats sure seem like little Budda's though...lol.

@Rilles nice! Imo, they are very subtle objects. Yep! Waking mindfulness works the same way. Meaning, no need for sitting meditation, if that's not ur thing. Right, you can't stop it permanently anyways, because it's not you that is that thinker of the thoughts to begin with. What are you referring to here?

@Etagnwo +1

Oooo, don't ruin it! I want one of those lollipop rings! Hehehe

@Etagnwo I guess the secrets out, best tell the kiddies of our engagement. LOL!!!

I love real butter, yum!

The choking comment was a joke, because I said Rumi's quotes were "word salad". Ya-know...choke on salad... haha. Geesh Listen, I appologized to you..but if you aren't going to accept my apology, then so be it. Anything else you'd like to say...?

Awe, I missed you so much where have you been? Xoxo!!!! Thanks for setting me straight! Oh you're sooooooooooo right. God, I'm soooooooo afraid. How did u know wise one??? Lmao!

@blazed Oops I pissed you off. Sorry about that. I'm just blunt and somewhat opinionated. Don't mind me, carry on.

Yes, I know! It's sad really. I recall all the crazy crap I thought years ago from listening to the wrong people. It can have you chasing your tail for a very long time. I'm glad that's over.

Well, hopefully no offense will be taken by this, but Leo is not my teacher (to me, he's just the guy that runs this website), so if he'd like a quote on his signature from this word salad guy, then I'd say, it's really not my business. But, in this thread Leo said to you, "There is no such thing as non-existence, only existence. Non-existence is a concept existing in your mind." So, if you think of Leo as your teacher (or one of your teachers), then he's telling you he doesn't agree with what Rumi is saying about non-existence , right?

Oh my, that's a lot of word salad. I feel like I'm choking on it. His usage of the word non-existence is just ridiculous. My advice would be to get yourself another teaching.

You crack me up!

Yeah, right! Lol

@Mikael89 Sweet!

Um, yeah, no. Truth/awareness is Sat-chit-ananda, which indicates "limitless conscious existence". Perhaps, insights while tripping on acid, aren't all that reliable. Just sayin'

Really? How so? Please be as descriptive as possible, so that I can hopefully understand why you would say this? Not that it really matters. Actually, I don't think I've ever communicated with you before now.

@Etagnwo +1

It's not an either/or understanding, but a both/and. Meaning there is only me, awareness, so no delineated line really exists between, me and the objects that appear within me. However, there is a gap or space that can figuratively be created to "see" (neti-neti) thought and other objects as not Self, until Self-knowledge is firm. In this regard there is a feeling that "I", pure awareness, just AM and Im aware OF all objects and they are false/illusions. This is helpful for discriminating the real from unreal. There is a shift in perspective from being identified with/as the I-thought/ego (thinking it is me), to be-ing awareness, that's just "associated" with the apparent person. This seemed a bit long winded, sorry.