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There's one scenario where this could be a bit risky: say the weaker results are because your technique has been imperfect, so you're only getting partial absorption. If you suddenly up the dose and nail the technique on the same trial, you could be in trouble and get hit way harder than before. I don't discount the possibility that 5-MeO-DMT could be physically dangerous in an OD situation. I don't want to make you paranoid or fearful, just be aware of this risk. It might be worth trying another ROA just to investigate this possibility before upping the dose with plugging.

Honestly if it's one of the big well known vendors that I'm thinking of, I wouldn't have any worries.

Oh yeah sorry, I meant eugenics 100%, that was a typo.

@Flyboy I totally agree with everything you said there. I spent a lot of time a few years back digesting what I could from his papers, and came to the same conclusions. I think he's really on to something. And then, over time, I noticed some ugly philosophy that comes from him, and that left a very bad taste. He's a racist and advocates for e̶u̶t̶h̶a̶n̶a̶s̶i̶a̶ eugenics, a grim combination. He's also such an arrogant asshole that he'll probably be forgotten. Who knows though, maybe future generations will recognize him as the revolutionary and preeminent genius that he thinks he is. Despite his extremely unpalatable side, I did find that reading his CTMU theory (as best as I could grasp) has been fertile grounds for insight.

I don't think 5-MeO-DMT could be characterized as an anti-psychotic if that's what you mean.

Leo's right, B) and C) are a very big deal. This kind of thing has been tried many times in the past, and almost always failed. I don't think it's impossible to make it work, but it's much, much more daunting than you or I can imagine. It would take a great deal of maturity, experience, and learning from the mistakes and successes of the past to have any chance of making it work.

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This is a normal visual effect, that most people normally ignore. Sometimes psychedelics expose visual quirks that we normally edit out of our awareness, and then once you notice them, due to a psychedelic experience opening you up to how you actually perceive the world, you'll continue to notice it afterwards. It's to do with "persistence of vision", and holding your eyes still in a meditation setting. I had the same thing happen with a slight astigmatism in my eyes that causes the spectrum of light sources like streetlights at night to become broken up a bit in a cross pattern. It took a mushroom trip before I noticed it, now I always see it because it's always there and I had just been ignoring it my whole life.

This is absolute bollocks, it 100% does not take that long to process psychedelics out of the system. There are not residual psychedelic chemicals stored in pockets in your body. Plainly speaking, that's just not how the body, or drugs, work. In a metaphorical way there is some truth to this though - a psychedelic trip, like any intense experience, can have a lasting psychological impact, which will vary radically from one person to the next, from one experience to the next. Just like some people might never get over their first lost love, or need many years to heal, some people will be impacted for life by a profound psychedelic experience. Personally, I'm currently still processing (in a good way) some peak experiences from 2013, 2016, and even earlier. I'll probably always be reminded of the subtle beauty of nature and the reality we find ourselves in every time I see a fern unfurling in the spring, because of an acid trip from 1999.

That's a good point. 5-MeO-DMT is not regulated in Canada, but that doesn't mean it's approved to be administered as a food or medicine. You would really have really dance around this, probably getting your clients to source it and administer it themselves. You'd still be operating in a very legally questionable area.

I'm not so sure about that.. there are currently centres operating openly that do iboga sessions. They might be getting a pass because they're mostly doing addiction treatment, with success, and addiction is an area that's notoriously difficult to treat, and much needed. There are definitely ayahuasca retreats going on under the radar, and there are underground therapists who work with MDMA, LSD and mushrooms. I wouldn't be surprised if there are already underground 5-MeO-DMT retreats going on too. Red-flag-raising would vary regionally. These retreat centres are concentrated in BC, which is probably the most liberal part of the country. Canada tends to have a liberal attitude towards drugs. Cannabis is legalized nationally for recreational consumption. Recently the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police called for the decriminalization of simple possession of illicit drugs (link). Regardless, you would need to operate very carefully, and be prepared for the laws to change. Mexico or Peru could be better places for a retreat centre as there is already an established presence of this sort of thing in those countries, and real estate should be cheaper.

@fi1ghtclub watch your tone and language on this forum, that was not appropriate.

Details are very important when it comes to dosages! Don't fuck around in this department, no matter how wavy you let yourself get. Seems too young to me to take 5-MeO-DMT. His brain is already plastic enough at this age. I think it is not wise to jump into one of the most hardcore psychedelics right off the bat at such a young age, it is something he could come back to later for sure. If he was interested in psychedelics, I think it would be better to introduce him to something more standard like mushrooms, LSD, or something very easy/mild like 2C-B. Just my 2c, it's hard to know exactly in any situation, let alone from a few words on a screen. In the end, he is the judge. But I would just remember, there's no rush.

I really enjoyed reading "Wholeness and the Implicate Order" by Bohm, and recommend it.

@Member I didn't take note of the points

I really liked this test, I prefer it to the more popular one with the cute avatars for the different personality types (16personalities.com) I was easier to answer the questions because the examples gave context to them, so I felt like I was able to give more accurate answers.

I'd be interested to know what % of participants on this forum register as INTP. Has anyone set up a poll for this?

Funny, as a programmer who works for nonprofits and is really happy with his life, I don't think I'd recommend you switch careers. In fact, looking back sometimes I wonder why I didn't go into medicine myself. I definitely had/have the interest and aptitude in biology and medicine to go that route, but ended up with computers because they are also fascinating. I had a lot of friends who were going into medicine and it seemed like they were chasing Success, and I felt a bit too punk for that or something. But looking back I was making a false association. The thing is with medicine you can really directly help people, and I think that would be very fulfilling. As a computer programmer, you are just kind of making the machines work. It's a lot more abstract and technological. With either career you could definitely write on the side. It would just be a matter of making the time for it and having the discipline to actually do it. I don't see either medicine or programming being an advantage in enabling this. Medicine might give you more of the human insight that would come into play into making you a great writer on philosophical topics. OTOH we are entering an increasingly technological future, and perhaps that's where the interesting philosophical margins lie. Not sure you'd get any particularly deeper insights into the philosophical implications of technology as a full-stack web developer though, vs what a layman or doctor could observe. In the end you'll have to trust your guts and come to your own conclusions. It's really hard to peer into the future. Try to suspend any decision until you've taken a really honest and fair look at both sides without unreasonably glamourizing or idealizing either side.

Yeah I suppose it's like anything, you have to look at the parts that are useful/interesting and not get hung up on the parts that aren't.

E-cigs are definitely less unhealthy than smoking tobacco, but like everyone else is saying, try to use it as a middle step to getting off of nicotine entirely.

I'm into some pretty dark stuff, but I find Lovecraft to be the kind of negativity that I don't need in my life. It seems he was a bit of a racist too, even for his time. I don't know, I feel like his writing gives a bit of metaphorical life to the evil entities that he talks about. Don't feed the monsters.. lol. Sorry I'm not really answering your question, I haven't read that specific story. Have to admit he's a bit darkly fascinating, and sometimes I do read his stuff a bit, and usually end up feeling a bit icky and wondering why I let that into my head.

We could split hairs on the definitions, but I think the main point is that there's a big difference in the mechanism of action between the class of compounds that's normally labelled "psychedelics" and the group normally labelled as "dissociative". Like you said, it can be useful to make this distinction. Traditionally "psychedelics" are serotonin receptor agonists including the tryptamines, phenethylamines, and lysergamides. So LSD, mushrooms, mescaline, DMT, 5-MeO-DMT are all examples Traditionally, "dissociatives" are NMDA receptor antagonists like DXM, Ketamine, PCP, MXE and a bunch of other related compounds. That doesn't mean you can't have psychedelic-like effects on a dissociative, or dissociative-like effects from a psychedelic. People get psychedelic-type effects from smoking weed too, and that's yet another set of receptors. But I don't think it's accurate to call weed a psychedelic either. Heck some people even claim they see god when they drink booze.

@Javfly33 In the pharmacological sense, DXM, ketamine and PCP are not psychedelic, they are dissociatives. They work on a different set of receptor sites than the psychedelic class. This doesn't mean anything about the kind of experience you can have on them, and there's no rule saying you can only have an ego death on a psychedelic.

It's a dissociative so like Peo said it's not a psychedelic, and it's unhealthy - even if you could get it pure, it's still bad for you. I'd recommend staying away from it and get some real psychedelics instead.

This is a good and heavy read. I haven't gotten through it all yet, but will come back. tl;dr: Don't combine 5-MeO-DMT with MAOIs (including ayahuasca, which contains MAO inhibitors)