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Hello!! I have a channel and IG page where I talk about psychedelics. I don't do any work with them on people (only on myself). But my page and channel are growing really fast and have so many people contacting me for information that I feel it's time to create something so I'm working on my website and since I got a certification as a Life Coach I think I could do a blend of self development+psychedelics. However, I don't want to be irresponsible about it. Psychedelics are illegal in most countries. I'm currently in US (California) and my audience is in Brazil, because my content is in Portuguese. So my questions is, can I create courses talking about psychedelics, of course with no use of substances etc, integration sessions, and of course implement my coaching skills? Or would that be too risky? @Leo Gura Leo your opinion would be much appreciated, Im an architect and am in the transition towards my life purpose. I've read countless books and participated in many workshops/ lectures about psychedelics. It's my passion to help people, and also to bring this fascinating subject that are psychedelics to the light. I've thought about doing a master in psychology but am not very happy about the idea of paying 30K and studying 3 more years + to wait for psychedelics to become legal. Please let me know your thoughts on it. Thank you all for reading!

@puporing Yes, I think giving advice about psychedelics it's a grey area. I will definitely consult with a lawyer before I start. Do you work with psychedelics as well? Another thing that might be an issue is that my background is in architecture, not related to the medical/health field. Thank you for responding Loved your quote.

If I my add to the conversation, the fact that you call a vagina a passive hole says SO much. I would invite you to rethink your relationship with women and the divine feminine, because we shall all agree that if the vagina was a "passive" hole you would not have come out of it, right? The womb hides the secrets of the universe. Having a bad relationship with the sacred feminine means denying your own true nature. How could you love the female body, breasts and ass and reject the center where everything comes from? I have never had sex with a woman but I would be open to it, I'm not grossed out by vaginas. I am super attracted to dicks but I think vaginas are beautiful and like Leo said a work of art, there is no comparison both are marvelous in their own way. I also feel a sense of envy when you say that women don't feel drained and have full body orgasms. I would invite you to investigate that too. Question it from a place of curiosity, not from a defensive one. Wishing you love in your journey, and remember we don't even know you, our opinion does not matter, what matters if how you feel with yourself.

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This is so cool!!! Thank you

@Someone here Yes, I think he is too lost in the fame and does not play just because it's his passion, he is indeed still immature. If he got serious about it would be great. Pele was very dedicated, Ronaldinho too.

@Husseinisdoingfine God is in everything my dear. He/we created it all so we could delight in it. I have a poem by Thich Nhat Hanh for you since you don't like TV. Don’t say that I will depart tomorrow— even today I am still arriving. Look deeply: every second I am arriving to be a bud on a Spring branch, to be a tiny bird, with still-fragile wings, learning to sing in my new nest, to be a caterpillar in the heart of a flower, to be a jewel hiding itself in a stone. I still arrive, in order to laugh and to cry, to fear and to hope. The rhythm of my heart is the birth and death of all that is alive. I am a mayfly metamorphosing on the surface of the river. And I am the bird that swoops down to swallow the mayfly. I am a frog swimming happily in the clear water of a pond. And I am the grass-snake that silently feeds itself on the frog. I am the child in Uganda, all skin and bones, my legs as thin as bamboo sticks. And I am the arms merchant, selling deadly weapons to Uganda. I am the twelve-year-old girl, refugee on a small boat, who throws herself into the ocean after being raped by a sea pirate. And I am also the pirate, my heart not yet capable of seeing and loving. I am a member of the politburo, with plenty of power in my hands. And I am the man who has to pay his “debt of blood” to my people dying slowly in a forced-labor camp. My joy is like Spring, so warm it makes flowers bloom all over the Earth. My pain is like a river of tears, so vast it fills the four oceans. Please call me by my true names, so I can hear all my cries and laughter at once, so I can see that my joy and pain are one. Please call me by my true names, so I can wake up and the door of my heart could be left open, the door of compassion.

@tedens is this substance legal?

@Leo Gura Leo what did you decide here?

Brazill!!!! I go psycho watching soccer games, it is so ingrained in us growing up in Brazil. But I miss the good old players. Kaka, Ronaldinho, Ronaldinho Gaucho.. Not really into Neymar. Let's not talk about the game with Germany, it was SO traumatizing. I asked my dad: Is this a replay? And he was like no, that's another gol, then asked my sister is this one a replay to which she answered: no it's another gol, the rest you all know

Yes please and thank you! Need to learn how to navigate the dark web

@Asayake Yes I agree, mushrooms are way more tricky to deal with, it's like a mind of its own. It brings out my primitive and unpredictable side. LSD is smooth. @OBEler I feel like when I close my eyes it gets worse! However I had an ayahuasca trip that I had to close my eyes for 4 hours, not that I had to, I just could not open it, and the message I got was that the vine was working on my perception of the world and my vision was completely shut off for hours, maintenance time lol. Whenever I opened my eyes it was like looking at the sun.

@Julian gabriel Canada has the best laws, many substances are legal there. As for research most of it comes from US, mushrooms have been decriminalized in many cities like Oakland, Denver etc. https://www.ciis.edu/research-centers/center-for-psychedelic-therapies-and-research CIIS is the best university because they do extensive research and studies in the psychedelic field and the curriculum integrates the subject. https://hopkinspsychedelic.org/ John Hopkins also provides great research, not sure about their curriculum. MDMA will be the first one to be legal, through the trials happening with MAPS.ORG, then psilocybin after. To work with psychedelics legally you will need to study psychology, if you already have a bachelor's degree (even if it's not related to psychology) you can do a Master's in psychology which will take 2 or 3 years.

@Razard86 yasss! That’s exactly what I am talking about. I can relate so much. Thank you for the video, love love love Sadhguru

Another very cute (but dark) video about the topic

@thisintegrated I would think stage orange uses drugs or even psychedelics in party settings, I think about Coachella and EDM or even Vegas to be very stage orange with all the pretty clothes, long nails, the superficiality etc. All those young people do use psychedelic drugs for recreation only. While stage green uses it mostly for spiritual purposes. I would be curious to know about Santo Daime and Uniao do Vegetal, those are churches who do use psychedelic for spiritual purposes but have strong blue values as their foundation. They do indeed have some green to it and some people even yellow but the blue is predominant. I'm part of one and I get very bothered by the masculine mindset, women do not have the same rights as men (for example most of the ayahuasca session are directed by men) would be interesting to hear opinions of people here from the forum

Oh lord I don't know how to answer this. My dad was (is) alcoholic and my mom always suffered with severe depression, she was always in bed. I don't really have memories about my childhood, my dad was very aggressive and I feel like I just dissociated to deal with everything and that is why I don't have recollection. My mom was abused and did not like being touched, she also didn't use words of affirmation so my conception of love was (I believe) very abstract. The way she expressed her love was through food and clean clothes?! But apparently after reading the comments I'm not alone.

@Seed I fourth! PSYCHEDELICS DESERVE A WHOLE SECTION!!

@Someone here I love that!! I've been living a more "light" life and I see that the whole self-help thing was helpful but at the same time damaging, we definitely need balance. Everything in moderation including moderation. We were domesticated to live a serious life, and as we age we become more and more rigid and bitter. We smile less and everything needs rules and rationality. I believe there is an immense power in tapping into our inner child, which is where curiosity and creativity is. I've been living my best life because of this shift, I call it bringing the INNER child OUT, I've been taking more risks, meeting crazy courageous people who are ALIVE, I started skydiving and wind tunnel, am training do do highline and still have my professional life untouched, how cool is it that we can balance all of that?! Leo talks about psychedelic use for personal development and I've always used this way, but lately I've used simply for laughing, dancing, connecting with close friends, and I've included in my movement practices, slackline, skateboard, exploring nature. Do I call it recreational use? No, because I'm against the idea that we need to divide our life like that, the same way we have a war on drugs, we have a war on pleasure and fun. We repress sex, fun and all the desires, I'm not saying we should live an hedonic life but I'm inviting us to rethink how we live and what was taught to us, and possibly include fun and all the nice stuff god gave us, into our daily lives. Like Bukowski said "We are here to live our lives well that death will tremble to take us", god provided us with all those tools and this amazing body that remains unused because of all the seriousness, and because of society, government, church etc. My only concern is that people who are not used to explore those areas will just run amok EXACLY because those parts of their personality are being repressed. and we know very well what happens when something is repressed. Good thread, made me think Thank you!

@Dazgwny Thank you for responding! I'm doing his "Tom at the park" thing, which is basically to increase the power of our imagination, because most of the time we are trapped in living in automatic mode instead of creating the life we want, I love the idea so this got me really excited. But what I'm actually after is the realization that reality is not physical, I've had many psychedelic trips, including with 5MeO (which I did not break through) and I do have all the theory that we are all one, that reality as we see its only here because I'm the one observing, but I want to have the direct experience that this is not physical. I feel like I can higher my psychedelic dosage but I don't want to be traumatized by it. I find his teachings to not be really heart centered which is why I don't think he has reached enlightenment, I also think that where I am at in life his teachings might be helpful. Like you said it helped you, you know the people who use psychedelics in the path to enlightenment but then they are against it even tho it helped them in their path to where they were at? I'm just exploring to see what is more useful for me right now. I have so much to integrate and transcend before I can focus on my spirituality only. @axiom Thank you, I will check him out

Leo, you said Tom Campbell is not enlightened but you mentioned his name in Stage Turquoise Mega thread, do you think his content is valuable in the spiritual path? I'm diving into his work, book and courses and am fascinated, just wanted to know your take on it. Thank you!

@Leo Gura Leo, you said Tom Campbell is not enlightened but you mentioned his name in Stage Turquoise Mega thread, do you think his content is valuable in the spiritual path? I'm diving into his book and courses and am fascinated, just wanted to know your take on it. Thank you!

@Benton Which video does he talk about aliens?? Havent wacthed, I only know of a video he talks about the pleiadians. The ocean thing I found out myself, I'm pisces like Matt and notice I live better closer to the beach, now I'm like 20 minutes away and he said the closer the better. Might be because California is a desert too, so I will check a place very close to the beach, Im a beach bum I think nature in general helps to ground our energy, also to recharge and release the crazy energy from the city. His teachings took me out of some reaaaally dark places, which vid is your favorite?

I remember right before COVID you planned to create some workshops or events to meet in person with the community, is this something you still plan on doing?

@Leo Gura Should I take my savings out of the bank? I make 8K per month and will be working in this job (as an architect) till end of the year, save a little more money and start the transition to coaching (I got the iPEC cert.) and youtuber. I have a YT channel (3K followers) and Instagram (18K followers) which I started a year ago but my content is all in Portuguese, the conversion of the coin to dollar is every 1 (real = Brazilian coin) is $0.18 dollar. I'm about to create an immersion/course about psychedelics and start coaching services but am unsure due to the currency. My English is good and I could totally record videos in English but my intention is to give back to my culture in Brazil Would love to know your take on it. Thank you Leo!