ValiantSalvatore

A famous korean artist and critic. Quiet trippy and the sound is just crazy + video.

@tedens For me, the devil is in the details mostly. Spiral Dynamics big 5 or any other model explains differences quite well. Even using only a rational discourse big pictures are fine. I was very curious about how world events impacted the change, since this is one of the goals of terrorism, for example, to scare the public and disturb political conversation and cause a conservative stance, because of fear induced. I think history and world events are key to understand political discourses, yet it's twisted with so many characters. It's not easy to keep up with that. In that sense, I find the big picture more enjoyable relateable. It's not only deep but is broad and applicable.

@Inliytened1 Every stage changes from an I centric to a WE-centric value structure. Orange is I centric Green is We centric Yellow is I centric etc. So, coral is is I centric and truqouise we centric. That just means and this is my interpretation that behavior and norms are regulated either more on a personal or a collective level. There is not much information from the author Don Beck about stage coral if it all. Coral would and does include stage turquoise since each stage transcends and includes. Also, an important distinction is that spiral dynamics is about values or rather value codes within people. Meaning that is how they govern themselves and interact with the environment. Take the term ethnocentrism which means the folk you belong to determines the what is valued in your collective, like honesty, xenophobia, family and capitalism etc. A collective or individual of this value or value group will express this somehow in their behavior and frown upon every other individual or collective not expressing these values, socially denigrate them and marginalize them in a sense. I am going with the original definition of ethnocentrism as in Wikipedia. Ethno = folk , centrism = centric. It's relevant to politics since it is a system or map, which explains the differences in people unifying concepts used in psychology and other disciplines. ( the author is a psychologist). I don't really know what socialism or capitalism exactly is since I never studied it when I think of getting rid of socialism and capitalism I always of to think of libertarians ruling the world from their yachts. For instance, the author introduced the concept of sprial dynamics with beige, green, etc. To people in South Africa helping to get rid of apartheid by explaining that there are differences in people, by their vMems or memetic does, meaning how their world view, a value structure as described above or an organizing principle permeating thought structures, systems and various forms of cultural expressions. So, people would not be labeled black and white and they received an explanation that there are different value structures operating inside the people and that they have to talk the language of that value structure. Yellow is the first structure-aware (stage) of the whole spiral. Spiral dynamics was already used in political and social affairs, yet I can't really make out of the book how effective it was. I just finished it yesterday and it has a lot of theory imo. Which is common sense but not... common practice. Stage Turquoise includes the spiritual aspects and wants to macro manage all life forms towards a common good in response to macro problems. Like universal basic income potentially, or new ways of agriculture to produce food in countries with a lot of soil like India, to reduce the scarcity of food on the planet, while cutting down giant industries, and using permaculture or anything like that even making amendments for their history. This is more or less my own two cents. In case I got the idiom right. This would be my idea, but I don't have enough knowledge to spin a very good concept around this.

@tedens Nah, I was just curious. Because I can relate with the right wing being more dominant. In my hometown, they have a lot more placards about from the right wing saying multiculturism kills, as their slogan. Still, the majority of people don't seem to be right wing, so I was curious if there are any news. Yet, with the terrorist attacks in sri lanka and new zeland iirc, it's nothing new. I subscribed to the Washington Post, out of recommendation from leo's blog + interest in general about politics. That is why I am asking.

@NoSelfSelf No that would largely depend upon your skill. What ego is and what it not is, is just not relevant when you genuinely want to improve a situation, you work through the ego, the same with meditation. It's not like every sitting is a total bliss as an advanced partitioner. Yes, it comes down to what you want to help people with and how you want to do it, yet it does not mean that ego is not involved or even your biological, psychological or biographical self. The point is the ego obviously will come, otherwise, the "game" would be way to easy. Yet, it does not mean that effortless action or service does not exist. Similar to flow states while meditating, running, studying or listening to music, playing an instrument a high concentrative state penetrates ego. So, your actions become more free of them. A flow state is highly energetic and feels purifying and not egoic and greasy. To embody this is not easy and needs daily practice. I want to reach this place of living from. Regardless of what currently happens. The point is without sitting on a cushion day by day nothing will happen, especially without retreats. You could greatly benefit from the audiotapes of alan watts, to realize the meaninglessness of meaninglessness and how beautiful it can be to create and enjoy creation. https://www.audible.de/pd/Out-of-Your-Mind-Hoerbuch/B0161MI1A6?qid=1557492621&sr=1-1&ref=a_search_c3_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=34e3b439-2a21-4dff-af95-98a7a74a1f67&pf_rd_r=4CTAGFBB7GA9TB693S8E This is IMO the best out of the 3 audiobook series I listened to and do not crank up the speed, otherwise, it just does not make sense. I started this path before actualized.org because the first video I watched from Leo was. Why I am a dick and why you don't change. I was so pissed and did not watch him for the entire year, until when he started talking about meditation. Since I just moved heavily into green from a more green/orange and could not deal with the directness of his way of teaching.

@tedens Is there a good online news service that you use or youtube channel? Something with dense information not too elaborated and complicated

@Shiva Do you have a good source to read up for the upcoming European election? I keep following American news, so no idea what happens in Europe currently.

@now is forever There are even biological differences in extroverts and introverts. This is a scientific explanation. MBTI and other typologies are just a map they are good for reflection, yet the map is not the territory... Big 5 aspects, for instance, is scientifically accepted and gave me more insights into my moral and emotional behaviors and drives as political views. While MBTI helped me more to deal with people and do not categorize them the way society does it while giving me gigantic insights into my ego self or for a more neutral term gestalt. Also, how to deal with differences in personality combining mbti and big 5 is just nuts. It's like especially when u trust ur sense... or intuitive hunches perceived by senses ... u know more why people behave that way without getting to know their whole story. It's like you understand now why people differ so much without needing to find reasons why you have a more accurate map and you can figure out the territory way greater. When I read this when I was young, I was shocked how true these things are about myself, also why I feel so different on a "psychological" or mental level from others made a lot of sense. Just by my type. For instance JP demonizes it saying it's not accurate while having read jung etc. So, I am also skeptical. Yet, open to the idea since it gave a lot of insights to what people might do not know. For instance, there is neuroscience with mbti. But, like how can I tell that is true. Also, there are ambiverts. Nobody mentioned some.

@Nivsch Even animals eat animals. Like humans kill humans. We are animals or come from them. Our behavior is even similar to chimpanzees and bonobos. Yes, racial ideology is gruesome. It was even introduced by famous philosophers IIRC Kant or someone else. Creating a racial categorization or saying, for instance, the black man can only be free in slavery. Depending on how circumstances where and the details of this small excerpt or quote, he could be right, otherwise, the person could be shot or killed or was haunted. In that sense. I never read much about the subject I read the quote somewhere. Animals depending on how you view it are not equal, on a spiritual level potentially. Yet, not as a living and functioning creature you can't for instance, say a goldfish is more sophisticated than a dolphin. Or a hornet is as equal as a bee. In that term it's relative, yet you have to consider that relative means something is related to something. So, a hornet is potentially as equal as a bee ... in terms of regarding it (holding it in a relative perspective) that it is an insect. But, for the environment and the globe, the bee could potentially provide more value because it produces honey and pollinates flowers. Yet, the hornet might kill small insects who could harm the environment. So, in context or in a relative perspective the bee and the hornet have different types of values and functions, so they are not equal. As their "right" as insects they may be equal, yet not as how they provide value. In that sense, humans are not equal to animals. Animals have their own rights and should have their own rights. Yet, we are also animals. Like we have a mammal part of our brain that is named mammal part because we are mammals. Imagine the human race contacts some alien force and the alien force are corrupt humans how have already technically advanced themselves and are fully automated humanoid robots. They don't need to eat, they don't need to sleep, they just need to maintain their functionality and the order of the outer planet/structure where they are living. Would they see us as equal? If they are superior in every sense.

That's what I thought... a planetary process ...

@Ponder How would you describe stage coral?

@CreamCat Yeah, that's the joke. Watch Eckhart Tolle saying this. I wanted to buy the book MeinKampf, yet I totally forgot this.

@CreamCat Heinrich Himmler read that bhadvagitta. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/9098525/Nazi-leader-Heinrich-Himmler-a-fan-of-yoga.html Hitler was a vegetarian and tried to convince people of stopping to eat meat because of animal cruelty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism Leave good old Hitti alone. He only had one testicle.

@Shiva I feel often that stage green just wants to have to moral upper hand, someone who comes more from a yellow perspective will for instance stick to their diet. Because they see it as "functional" and can take care of their environment including stage green personal and collective moral values, also will not try to force their viewpoint on to you or demonize you for eating meat. Ideally, a stage yellow vegan/vegi will explain the effects of eating meat, for the environment etc, stating statistics, news reports, documentaries etc. Stage green may take care of the animals and is aware of factory farming. But will crusade and convince and manipulate, since they view their moral viewpoint as superior. Ideally, they can rationally explain it, including systemic repercussion. Yet, many are just hippsters, they don't do that for years and stick for instance to a vegan diet. They just go with the hype and are relative about their food intake. You will most likely not get an answer like what vitamins does green salad have, carrots etc. The nutrition aspect is almost completely forgotten and mostly moral reasons. imo. Stage turquoise is including the spiritual aspect not only the environmental. For e.g sadghuru eating vegetarian, not crusading explaining even the spiritual reasons behind it. You hear him talk about the body as a system, agriculture as a system etc. explaining it in somehow "yellow" terms depending on how "rational" yellow is. Not sure how far this goes but this is the best explanation I can come up with, after being vegan and veggi chatting also with people who switched diets and meeting non-dogmatic veggies and vegans. For instance my aunt is dogmatic, but as soon as it is somehow against her way of living it is explained away to keep up a moral façade/front/high ground. Read Susan cook greuters paper or skim it to understand the self line. I don't think many people have done it here...(She is from Switzerland )

@d0ornokey Yellow: would be about only functionality of food, quality of food, calories, vitamins. Not in an orange perspective of oh it is useful, let's eat it! Yet, in terms of how does this affects my body, how does it affect my feelings, do I contribute to factory farming, global warmth etc? Is it useful to eat it then, potentially there are alternatives and options to choose which do not harm the spiral. Or maybe I just hide inside it and eat what I want, but go vegan/veg with the ideologue social justice warriors or explain it away! So, potentially tailoring a diet that fits one's unique situation from all the options and alternatives out there. Also, steadily adapting that. For e.g I want high performance, I want to eat ethically not ideological, I want to eat what I want and enjoy life, I want to eat healthy etc. Then seeing the systems in systems in it how functional is it to eat what I want, what does it contain, how does it affect me. How is it delivered? Who produced it in the first place. A person at yellow would never force ones nutritional dogma onto another person, he may try carnivore diet, goes vegan then, eats pescetarian, becomes a flexitarian, then a veggie and finally becomes food himself and is eaten! Most likely yellow also wants high-quality food that is functional without all the "fluff", for instance, superfoods and smoothies that have high calories and are healthy, ideally tasty. Not sure if taste plays a role at yellow, yet I find other stages are quite obsessed with food. Saying food makes me happy ( it is one of the activities that makes humans the happiest IIRC) or people who can't hold themselves back, saying there is nothing better than eating! I love food etc. Yellow might still be really really into food but is a bit more detached from the food craziness. IMO Turquoise would be more: Will I solve global issues with my food intake? Do I want to be part of the problem or the solution? Does the solution work if we work together holistically in communion? What food can I buy to contribute to help the world holistically, in my mind, body, external systems of food production, small farmers, shops and what not. What is spiritual food, will it make me feel more connected to the divine? How can food express spirituality? Do I just eat mindfully? Or is food something to be worshipped in a sense. + Yellow perspective of functionality and health.

Would everything not be a partial truth. The question is what is absolute? In that sense or what is true, that can be observed from different perspectives 1 Person, 2, 3. To prove some truth of another objective. Even with the photon. In a state of "superposition". If there is no observer who can tell the thing observed is existing in an absolute state since it is always changing. Then there would be no absolute proof? How can one even tell the photon is in a state of superposition when it always changes when it is observed? Who did the observation in the first place to claim the superposition exists which is the state of "non-observation"? Is it not similar to the "paradox" who guards the guards? Same with the 1. person perspective of a guru saying he is levitating if there would be an absolute truth a state of superposition. The guru is levitating by his claims(subjective reality) and not levitating in objective reality. What resolves a paradox? Or does one have to consider always both in case of uncertainty? Even if this would be partially true because I am claiming here who can argue with one's subjective reality, like the photon being an ass and doing both when not observed. (Inside the sun taking million years to produce a sunray IIRC!) Let's say the guru is trying to pontificate something by saying he is levitating! he could be internally free saying he is levitating meaning his subjective experience is true. Yet, objectively it is always false, which would be the second person or the observation. So from an absolute 1. Person perspective there is nothing wrong. Which each perspective it most likely gets only more complex. 3rd Person could be edited so he is actually levitating. No idea a partial truth gives a clue to a more whole truth, using the whole Wilberian lingo, to explain this. So, when an observation has some partial truth it will ultimately lead to a more whole truth, potentially it remains partially at some level and becomes more whole on another. Weird example in vipassana from what I've heard... the end goal will be to crack the habit of the observer observing itself. Like there is no meta realm... anymore. You would reach an absolute and resolve a paradox?

I try to pick them up as well as I can and adapt. Depending on what I do for instance traveling, I did lying meditation since I was uncomfortable meditating there on a chair. So, I looked for how to keep myself awake. Same goes for long train rides, where I had to share a cabin. I definitely would plan in advance which habits, to keep and which to change. For instance, during my internship in London, I wanted to work out more and went for 5k runs approx. after work. 3-4 times a week. Since gyms were too expensive. When you go for an early weekend trip, you can still stand up 30 min earlier if you have to go in the morning and do a 30 min meditation, at night a 30 min meditation then also. If you have a practice for 1h. Potentially, using similar cues. For instance currently, I always have my bag packed for the gym, leaving the dirty clothes (yes) on the chair, since I will use them again anyway. So, my shoes, etc are in there and I've been able to maintain a gym routine now with traveling back home. Scheduling tasks in advance can also help. I use a bullet journal and sketch out my day and ideally a week. Setting time blocks. It's a rough guideline and writing it stuff down helps. I also struggle with consistency when I hit setbacks, depression, etc, last year was the first year in 3 years where I did not meditate daily, for a couple of weeks (also to test it..), for approx 2 months total, a week there, etc. When I did a 14day meditation retreat in a Zen temple, some people maintained their studying habit if the places allow it and it is important to you. Go ahead, I wanted to have the full experience and did not use my phone for 14 days.

I liked meditating and setting intentions before, I also used my journal and wrote down intentions and a guideline for how the trip should proceed. I would also recommend a low dose at the beginning, I noticed that I could do more after that and there is no real rush to anything, especially when one takes time off. Also, on a low dose doing formal meditation for the normal amount of time, one would usually do it is a good idea. It is good for seeing the potential how powerful this substance (mainly I tested LSD) is. Also, doing it during daylight and early in the morning, preparing food and stuff in advance a bit. Potentially psychedelics and darkness do not mix, so to sniffle a bit into the darkness when a trip last 8-12h IIRC, could also be good. Yet, I would cross-reference and definitely use psychonaut wiki and erowid to see all the effects, so you could even go for one specific experience, by setting intentions. Also, to have a clue how visual phenomena are being experienced, they have some very cool gifs.

@Joseph Maynor A user on this forum sent a great e-book about dating that is more in accordance with david deida, the way of superior men and does not emasculate without the pickup stuff and the book basically demonizes pick up a bit and explains why it does not work to a degree. I generally feel women have less ego, yet they define their ego in terms of their social relationships and their relationships. Men are obviously, more attached to their work and material things, status, and power. It thinks it goes both ways, that the ego is just differently expressed in more societal terms, in order to have a chance to not be demonized by a societies standards, which is also counteracted by individualism nowadays. Or collectives standing up for smth. see feminism. Yet, still, I often feel that her ego becomes yours. Which is odd to deal with. Considering what I read years ago in a spiritual perspective from the Varadarajan or thunderbolt tradition in Tibet. Is that women often embody wisdom on the spiritual path, and men are doing the spiritual path. Which with all the talk, yoga seems to fit better for women since it is more feminine in nature like nature. I generally would say women would have an advantage even in the spiritual path because they are more sensitive, yet this is also a hindrance or could be. For instance, women who project their emotional attachments are horrible, yet a woman who is more attuned with her emotional side, can also be more masculine. Meaning she becomes more feminine and therefore is more comfortable in the masculine. So, at a stage yellow emotional line or even gender identity line. (Integral Psychology). The difference between ego expression diminishes, yet should also be expressed in a more healthy way. Depending on the nature of the person. So, a man can rely more on the masculine side of things and slip into the feminine and be caring, vulnerable and emotional, while she does the work. And I take care of the children. So, there is a constant role swapping even in parenting I assume. So, anything under stage yellow is expressed more in a dichotomy of the feminine and masculine. While higher stages most likely transcend it altogether. Biologically, depending on how the person is wired, I assume women still become more egoic, about caring and become more possessive of bonds between social relationships. Yet, even these changes nowadays with hormone injections and what not. Men, most likey dominate, want power, seen as strong, status, put others down, compete. So, I would say their ego goes more into a way of grandiosity and status, outcome and product of work, effort, and abilities. Still, this also counts for women, yet I feel men are more expressive of their ego in that way. HEY look what I can do! P.S Gender union is described as becoming one with the gross releam of creatrix. But these words do not make sense even when I translate them.

Inattentive is being distracted easily, missing that people are talking to you, bad memory and inability to recall, so missing keys stuff like this. Hyperactive is being unstable, constantly wanting to move, moving one leg up and down constantly, can't sit still, talks fast, and people. Is that correct? For a general description of ADHD for these two types. I don't know how it affects him, he seemed quite sensitive so I refrained from asking stuff like this. Can you send a link to the machine? Sure, I am constantly looking for some ways, yet networking in uni is pointless according to advice from cal Newport. Attending events is something else. Interesting, I watched videos and found one studio that is not a sect. I also looked into sadghurus programms, would love to go to India for 5 months to learn yoga hardcore, because of having a support structure hence building an infrastructure. Works very well for me. Also, from the description above gives me more "reasons" to do hatha yoga. It's quite unfortunate that nothing seems to work, hopefully, you find something! Did you really never try a do-nothing technique?