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@kieranperez You can try a more rational approach with cbt. (I also tried shinzens approach or a loving kidness approach) I looked into Auto Hypnosis after this video just today and tried it, with a Youtube video of AutoHypnosis. I did not watch the whole Shunymurti video, yet considering Leo's answer this may be a way to advanced way. I like Shinzens approach to this since it is more modern. I'll watch more of Shinyamurti though.

@oMarcos hey, i have similar experiences when lying down to meditate, my body and sensory experience start to relax. While I see a flash of a thinned out version of white light from time to time I also just read in the spiral dynamics book, that this is can happen and is more of a third tier, transrational phenomenon. I personally think it could be a hint to no self, but that is just mere speculation.

@electroBeam May I ask you where you feel this specific feeling of procrastination / adhd in your body? I've read that the solar plexus stores prana on the net, and want to get into Hatha-Yoga relatively soon. For instance I am going with my personal pratice there and if I recall correctly, shinzen also mentions that. You can re-train your nervous system. I especially feel that when I do his technique that this is possible. There are two kinds of nervous systems PNS and SNS. I never dug deep into it besides from a holistic coach on YouTube. Who combines PD with a lot of pratical scientific approaches and unconvential systems from the east. I just notice in daily meditation practice how subtle tensions stirs my behaviour and brain, especially to do and react to certain aspects. https://youtu.be/KlpXGXZ_dT0 (Won't embed the video, here Shinzen talks about the relationship of the brain with the body, in a bit more detail, hence the title) Especially, by going with intuition here or hunches, my compulsivness and "neurotic" tendencies have been greatly reduced by my meditation pratice. Also, work outs and more healthy foods, feels like it's retraining my nervous system. But the process is so slow. Any thoughts similar to this?

@RichardY I did not know that India was divided only that britian occupied the country. I just checked wiki. Reading about the partition. It's insane reading about these movements. I'll get the book back and re-read lol.

@RichardY I don't know exactly what he did. Yet, this was what I wanted to know from you and asked. I lent the book to a friend, so I can't re-read it. Yes, this is how propaganda works. When the sun shines brighter it will increase global warming. - > Said a "populist" politician.

Well, tit for tat. Apparently a red/blue enviroment where it is neccessary to do that in order to maintain order?

@RichardY Why what else did he do, that he could be called a sociopath? Mao ze dong is the only other leader I read something about and Lenin/Stalin I only went to an exhibition, where they showed different political groups from 1800-1900, showing anarchist groups and bolschewists etc. Also, seeing propaganda videos of russian military killing their own people.

I read a biography some time ago, presenting ghandi in a bright light. His protests, him being in south africa, working as a news reporter in inda iirc, almost beaten to death, because of his believe in his vision/resolve/grand scheme etc. Yet, all the stuff ken wilber talls about makes sense when reading history and critque of famous saints/sages/mystics/visonaries w/e. I heard Elon Musk does cocain at bruning man ?‍♂️, not sure if true. This article looks good about ghandis sex live and experiements of "celibacy" https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html%3famp

A small list of metaphysical post survival / non-survival ideas. Accessing state-stages Accessing subtle,causal,non-dual realms Cleaning chakras (Cultivating a mind-body relationship) Not informing oneself about post survival stuff Accepting reincarnation theories (nirvana/samsara) Accepting content of dreams Considering sidhis Pursuing enlightenment Neglecting enlightenment Jhanas or states of high concentration/forms of absorptions IIRC Psychedelics

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@electroBeam Partially it is a survival mechanism. For instance an ape or human who shares ressources is compassionate in that sense that he shares ressources, also since he or she is providing value. The group admires or rely on the gratitude and compassion of that a ape or human. Franz de Wall has a ted talk explaining that an "alpha" male rises in his rank, thanks to his compassion as long as it is balanced. Since he shares ressources and the trait involves for instance an act of generosity. In the case of someone dying, potentially to deal with the feeling or experience, of something or someone passing away. It is good most likely to release that emotion.

I wanted to ask especially the people who do yoga or kriya yoga. How do you deal with kriya experiences and releasings of them? Or releasing of blocked energies and chakras? Can you fully release a chakra and how does that impact life quality and the feeling of the particular chakra? I listened to a couple of explanations on how to deal with them, yet this feeling is incredbliy present. For instance I sometimes have to deal with pain, when sitting down to meditate near the area of my pelvis, because of a large scar there. Also, while walking and doing sports for a longer time. Even though I can attenuate/alleviate the pain with some "scar roller". When I feel this pain or there or in generel, where I feel blocked energy in my solar plexus. I feel this pain shooting upwards towards my brain, at specific areas. Now, this is the same kind of pain and frustration I feel when studying, failing, being weak or trying to be assertive. I have been mindful of this pain, since day one of starting to meditate. After the new video and working with the LP and CBT exercises, I know that most of the cognitive internal negativ self-talk is gone. Sure, there is some negative thinking. Yet, the point I am trying to make is this feeling or blocked chakra / pain or sanskara hindered me from become better at surviving by the day to day demand imposed by society and my standards. I know now that these feelings at least in a Vipassana traditions are called sanskaras or smth. similar. Which stands for grooves or for me similar to old roots, or just pain. Now, often I experience these feelings intensly for a month or two weeks, then they are gone for the same duration approx. The pattern differs although. Eckhart Tolle calls this pain body imo, I am just curious for those praticing yoga and potentially having similar feelings at the same spot. Did a full release and permanent change of the chakra or blockage felt ever occur? I will definitely work on my relationship to pain in the context towards survival conceptually. Yet, practically I attend this feeling almost every meditation session.

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@andyjohnsonman Yes, so far reviewing intentions could be good and seeing if they unfold when you journal about them or go through life. Yes, journaling and contemplating the "nature" of the experience or it's potential meaning and insights which have been unraveled. If you are into shadow work, I'd recommend doing a shadow work exercise. I only practice one technique, so I can't give an expert opinion Also, daily meditation practice or exchanging the experience with a friend common sense or prudence is key, yet definitely daily meditation. Or share them even here on the forum to get feedback and give other people the opportunity to integrate theirs, potentially. Anyway, this was my idea and approach.

@CreamCat There are plenty, I checked the book again since IIRC, they recommended a specific book. Yet, it will take me to long to find it. Here is the list of Goodreads (Used Google, not the GoodReads website to search) https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/speed-reading These links also look fine. https://bookauthority.org/books/best-speed-reading-books https://myspeedreading.com/best-speed-reading-books/ They, also have higher ratings from user than the book recommended by Leo. Even on Amazon. By checking again, I would stay with the top rated books or the ones recommend from Goodreads. Possibly there are greater books than the one Leo recommended. I wanted to buy also a specific one, but I don't think I will find it anymore... Have fun and "to success"/ good fortune etc.

@arlin You can take a cold shower in the morning or choose a place which does not make you feel tired. I did not struggle that much with tiredness during meditation at the beginning thanks to cold showers. ( From warm to cold, to be more alert during the morning)

@CreamCat Check out goodreads there are books with exercises to overcome this problem and have a solution. Not seeing words as images. The Book from Leo is also listed there + others which have a higher rating. From the users there.

Just buy 20-30 bucks lol, I bought a used version. The informarion on the net is good but not as detailed as in the book.

@Nivsch There are a couple it is already mapped out. Which parts of israel are green/orange blue red etc. + a few names etc. + organizations are mentioned so you could join an organization or check the sites of people who used spiral dynamics in Israel. Don beck describes in the book spiryal dynamics in action how he implemented sd in israel.

@Nivsch I mostly have my opinions from Ken Wilber on how to go up on stage. Otherwise I did not find anything in the spiral dynamic book, on how that occures or I missed that part. I recently bought the old version. I have the audiobook version, also and can't recall. Besides what Ken Wilber said on how to grow up/in stages.

@Nivsch It will not be easy to convince people if they are not open, because they are not in an open state, but in an arrested or closed state. Meaning they are not capeable of changing because of living conditions or adjusting to their conditions and, not being open for a big change in their vantage point, viewpoint etc. Because they are not willing to be open and to have their belives challenged. It would be smart to find people who are already open instead of convincing a couple of friends. What I meant is that in the new book don beck mentions a couple of people and organizations and what they did in israel to use spiral dynamics to change people there. Also, showing a map where the various vMemes (color codes exist) from red to green. So, you cold potentially join a organization and search for a specfific organizstion or person who has used spiral dynamics and write them a mail. Or go to a meeting. Reading the book(s) could give you a larger picture of how change happens, which phases people go through etc.

@Aeris Even a small breakthrough like crying or an insight feels different from ordinary "consciousness," I think the question is legit. Yet, difficult if beginners or newbs, noobs, etc. Are describing it. It will sound messy. The point for me is not to be deceived by, my own thoughts, emotions, projections from others, shadow elements, kriya feelings even now, projections from me etc. It's rare for me the closet I came through of what I can call direct experience (besides any sense perception) was through crying regardless if it was an LSD experience where I cried, a retreat, or a spontaneous event. It brought in more clarity then I could think of literally! Or driving through the consciousness tunnel on LSD, where insights just came and drove me deeper and deeper for a couple of hours into insights of insights of insights.

@Aeris It goes way deeper then that if I would make an abstraction it is sense perceptions and what is perceivable. I know where I am heading 100% for the next stage. It takes time and effort and I don't know how the experience is going to be or feel like or if I will experience another "state" experience. I was mainly mentioning my insights/point of view from my practice of meditation which is Vipassana version from Shinzen Young. I also will buy a Yoga-Course finally I found one, so I can practice some Hatha-Yoga and start from there since I really wanted a body-focused practice also. Working with subtle energies mainly and kriyas, also becoming more flexible. The point is I feel I need a breakthrough via retreat or LSD etc. Day to day practice is too gradual if you can get what I mean. I am a bit impatient there. Who experiences aloneness? Where do you feel it? How does it feel ? etc. This is pointless to a degree since you are the one experiencing it feeling the aloneness. Yes, in a sense it is a direct experience, but not a direct experience of certain states. There is a huge difference between the consciousness and state experience of LSD trip and ordinary consciousness or the level of consciousness after a meditation retreat. In that sense, you can distinguish between direct experiences.