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I approached two girls I know the number is not quite high, although basically I received my first number and I have similar issues when it comes to online-dating inital attraction is great, yet there is no real way of me then getting her to meet up again. Online it's just getting the number currently. There are multiple things that go into consideration. Text her instantly create some fun (advanced) Text her next day set up meeting (beginner) Start doing stuff with her and let the number just sit there because you know the girl is most likely in to doing smth. Did not tell her my name She replied to me once So, basically what can I do after I receive her number the conversations just seem to end? I just thought about not thinking to much and acting which was a mistake in a sense since my skill level is not at a subconscious integration part. Now, basically chat summarization/detail: Me: What's up XOYX? How was club XYZ yesterday ?? (after 1h) She: Hey not much, club XYZ yesterday was nice Me: Haha at least the people started dancing on the pole Me: Let's meet via zoom. Me: When do you have time? (after 3h) Me: Btw, my name is XYZ ? (after 4h) She: sorry I am quite busy and I generally do not like to meet via that way at all. Me: KK She just replied 1 minute ago with the last message, I do have an issue with being assertive and not being in a business like mode. There are so many more chats, yet currently I can't find the right way to do this stuff. Many don't like zoom and corona does limit some options and I would like it if a women can take me out of my logical mind a bit since otherwise I'd meditate, workout or engage in some activity. Yet, no idea if this is just fantasy. No idea what to reply, if one if you guys is fast enough and has experience it would be nice if he/she more he please my lord. Save this conversation because I am just at my end here for now.

This sounds like my kind of fantasy if I can get good at approaching this is legit giga funny and real.

@hyruga Looks good. Keep pumping that basal ganglia .

@Leo Gura That is true I wanted more numbers to let go of the investment part. Your advice is gold I can let things be open and be assertive this is what I really like instead of this extrem macho let's do it mentallity. Other girls replied, I could have initiated marriage yesterday without sex till after marriage. I was a bit mind-blown self-sabotage is insane as well as religous cults. I am also through the entire OkCupid base right now. I'll apply lessons now to Tinder etc. Other plans. @Raze Thanks I bought a course from the og David DeAngelo, where also Neil Strauss/Styles is in for online dating. I am going through it for the third time as recommended for online dating. I learned more about text game from online dating, yet this example was offline related. I'll really cut this down I do have quite high standards. I checked out the links the short ones are really good exactly what I was looking for. I'll rewatch them and take some notes + action on them soonish.

@hyruga A camera or recording yourself can also work Leo in his new video has one part where he explains what to research if this is about game and talk about this then. IIRC current pop-culture, there was more. I am taking notes on this sooner or later. From David DeAngelo books everything including violence, history for e.g is good. Not politics.

@hyruga Dude man I had no idea how to express myself I wrote fking volumes of journals handwritten. It flows naturally if you can put in an hour and do some sort of practice I did shadow work and just sheer self-expression in my journals it works sort of digesting my nervous energy through writing. If you live in a larger city you could do toasmasters and prepare some sort of presentation and present it untill you are satisfied with the result of the presentation. For me journaling helped with self-expression especially internally expressing myself than externally and finding words for my internal stirrings. It's way better then it used to be people legit enjoy listening to me now. Which is good. It's a craft.

@Leo Gura Leo I hate this dating thing.

She replied now I don't know whish me luck for the date positively. I'll contact her in a couple of min.

@Leo Gura Thanks I thought about suggestings drinks and offered coffee now, she was just not interested after the first message I presume. I am chatting right now from a date that does not show up online. I am texting other girls. She declined told me she has no time, so basically I messed up attraction. Also, thanks for emotional support she was quite hot. I knew the number meant nothing and I was pissed at my friend and me having to do all the work as usual because of casual trash. Even if he get's more girls online. I don't know I delete all the fake women now from my online profiles I am tired of this attention seeking back and forth shit. ------- I even did subconsciously because I asked her if she is from this area. So, she was not disinclined for dancing etc. I was just pissed that I have to constantly deal with this insane paradoxes and nobody really is there and my friend complaining about music and me having to dance with an injury my friend completely dismissing that it affects me. The point is also I am more of a magician I knew she was a student I knew she lived her I knew she was busy I knew she wanted to go out and have fun, yet I just did not engage in a fun activity with her on the spot, this is what I mean with I am tired of this city to constantly do all of this stuff alone feels like I am a maniac. Also just not very good wingmanship....

@hyruga This might be a weird unstructural thing to do, yet practice talking to yourself. For instance I tend to explain to myself everything and there is no real time to think about what you say when you do that. Or just writting endless gibberish having to make sense is not the point you can sort of rely on intuition and just write or speak. Without having the need to be logical and make sense. Who cares? You can also have fun especially when you are alone infront of the computer or smth. similar. For instance I read about a concept and I talk about what I intuit is and is not correct and it sort of balances it out. When talking casually you can also ask questions or find the things that connects. Instead of getting lost in it all. Also massive journaling does help self-expression from a survival non-contemplative level of experience. Also, letting go of perfection there is only virtue.

@Thought Art I go through the notes when I am stuck on something. As well as I re-define my values as I feel relevant at best currently every 3 months, so I create meaning and it helps with changing behaviour and activities and getting a kick out of that. Once a year I set yearly goals I've read all the books now I feel I am just now getting started. Depending on how useful the content right now is in my life I review notes or watch a video. I feel new input from other sources is also very valuable.

@hyruga Yeah, I saw one test vice-versa with a guy that is a jacked famous model making a picture with a dog. Receiving 40-50+ likes in a couple of hours. On which plattform did you create the account? OkCupid is working match wise I had like 4-7 matches this week. Bumble is a bit more difficult. I did not know that they use an elo system for rating your account based on fundamentally how selectively you choose and get chosen. More matches higher elo rating the less matches and the more right swipes without matches the lower your elo score. So, pictures are really important. I at least received one intro so far and I get liked 2-3 times a week, yet my messages get the most results apparently. So I recive 4-7 matches a week on one plattform and Bumble one peer week currently. That is 5-8 girls per week in a 100k city which is good I feel. I'll find a way to get the pictures to work and "automate" this stuff. Setup two dates now finally. Ideally two more like one.

I wanted to ask what kind of pictures worked for you the most? Pictures including social proof for example hanging-out with friends as well as doing your hobby for instance playing the piano, violine or skateboarding etc. As more hobbies are more down-to-earth reading,meditating,cycling,hiking as well as coding/engineering etc. I do have some issues with pictures currently and their setting. My question is what kind of pictures helped you attracting women online personally? I make a list of pictures ideas to get creative gears churning. Cycling Playing chess Reading Travelling exotic place Travelling adventeruous place Travelling modern city Picture in nature, a park, forest etc. Pictures with friends hiking, cycling, travelling together Snowboarding Coding Playing the guitare,piano etc. Simply professional pictures taken by a photographer Exercising Deadlifts Squats Specific exercises Happy with friends exercising, partying, clubbing, sitting at a table talking Clubbing pictures Halloween pictures In a bar with friends Pictures with women/female friends eating, talking, having fun Meditating Yoga Working on your business or craft Sculpturing Wood work Drawing Showing an impressive feat Juggling Boxing Judo Martials arts Pictures with interests as shirt for example superman shirt, favorite rock band, artist etc. Pictures with a celebrity Doing push-ups Calisthentics Humerous pictures walking out of a bank with a wheelbarrow full of fake money (looks like robbed a bank), dressed as santa claus standing on a roof etc. Dancing Even just studying Drinking tea Playing golf Beign very muscular Doing pull ups Wearing glasses Glasses on/off Accessories on/off Shirt or T-shirt Pictures in a suit Any assertive confidence displaying poses? Pictures infront of sports car Pictures at a festival Pictures at a tech meeting cebit in Germany for example Certain colors even did a red shirt stand out etc. Picture with CEO of a company or start up Pictures at the beach I think this is enough I am curious to what worked for you I am not interested into faking interests as I am looking still for ideas for picture besides taking a vacation and using travel pictures soonish if that is even possible right now lol. Also cool if you can provide some examples. Till now the professional taken pictures worked the best for me. TLDR; What kind of pictures worked for you for online dating? Yes I make everything to a science.

@SamC Nothing that really worked fully for me as an idea I tried scheduling activties that I want to do in my free time. This does still work mostly although I am not 100% consistent in that sort of scheduling. Yet, I find unplanned free time can be an hinderance since there is so much stuff I like it's not easy to find an activity that I really want to do. I wish I would have done that earlier. As much play as possible as I feel this is essential to re-charge creative batteries. For striking balance nothing really worked for me this is where I have an issue as I can be obsessive about stuff. TLDR; Bullet journal Schedule free time where free time is available Execute

@Null Simplex That is quite funny lmao. Thanks for the info!

@StarStruck I'll add another perspective instead of calling it "dick" it's being playful and cocky&funny or charming at least that is how it works out for me. I made all of my dates laugh, yet the connection part is missing. They told me that I am exciting which is the opposite of boring. It's important to lead with fun and engage in fun things as well as find fun activities. It's about fun and confidence!!!! If she has no amount of confidence that is a different issue. I am not familiar with push and pull. As I do feel there are some crazy aspects to it. I prepared some games even mental games that are engaging and just fun and are about exploration and adventure as well as mental stimulation. You don't even need to take it to a spiritual level. As many will not be ready for that if you have or have had a strong spiritual practice, yet you can lead there are practices I know I can't practice alone for engaging in depth more. Yet, it's not easy to do this without a partner. Which would build a strong connection etc. Even if the person has depth. I do think this is an leadership issue. I can't currently gain more experience as there are not many people here. My last date, I wanted to build a deeper connection through eye contact, yet she really was unable to look me into the eyes and hold and match a level of depth. Yet, I could have built it through physical escalation. Would love to give better advice, yet I really do not have an issue with boring for me it's vice-versa. I have to take care that the women I am dating is not boring me. Might seeing it that way shifts the perception of the issue into the right perspective of being confident and fun to be around. You are the one who is supposed to have fun and take her by the hand and be playful and leading. Not being nice and putting her on a pedstal I've been there...maybe still am. I'd say cocky and funny is good as long as it does not become to juvenile and it's about fun and intensity, integrity and confidence. Being a "dick" in that way is a more healthier approach than straight up being an ass etc.

There is one fundamental issue with Vispassana meditation. It fosters shadow material\spiritual bypassing. @Sine You keep detaching and detaching from sensations depending which kind of Vispassana you are doing. I asked about this issue on a forum and can link a forum post of a women who has 38 years of experience etc. Explaining some of the connections. There are also other opinions. I also don't like to constantly experience the ego-identification process of my body. I also never truely went beyond the body-mind problem. I found this interesting article http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/show/309 Unsure if it helps I really wanted to resolve this issue while doing psychedelics I had more shadow level kind of experiences and it basically forced me to experience it all. In order to even get the feeling of having let go of the body-mind problem. I am not talking about Mahasamadhi that is absolutly to much. TLDR; The article get's into some depth and describes the corelate of what happens with a full Integration of emotions e.g fear, pride, anger at a spiritual level.

I don't think using this tip is all to good if you don't have a high match rate. Apparently the algorithm pushes people with less matches and less messages down and they are not shown as often. So, don't use this "hack" when you don't already receive a lot of matches. My match rate has gone down unsure if this is the reason. Apparently this is how bumble works according to my couple of bits of research.

I just discovered this trick in case nobody knows as well as if this is already known just hold your horses. I want to share it. Basically all it is you can extend the amount of people you like on a given day by using the webbrowser. I tested this now you can use all your fremium likes and then hop on to the webbrowser version of Bumble and like more people also it apparently refreshes more often than on the phone when I use Bumble. TLDR; More likes through using Webbrowser First like all via phone then hop on the webpage from Bumble Like through webpage version of Bumble Wait some time Send out likes via webpage again Thought this is a nice little tip this works for me. Somehow the likes you can send out on the webpage refreshes more often.

@Null Simplex That is an interesting profile. Just from analyzing and seeing the pictures shortly I can see why men like it and don't like it. I messaged a lot of women and "ball busted" IIRC this is the concept them for profiles without pictures of them. I received a lot of likes back. Presuming the profile was without gender I'd also presume that it could be a hot women who does not even need a profile picture etc. What gender did you use for the account that would be interesting. @Preety_India Yes, definitely I'll do it when the opportunity arises. I skimmed an e-book where there are profile tips and examples where a cool picture where the guy does not look into the camera is a must according to this e-book. One with cinos and white sneakers and looking like the dude above would be ideal. Next shooting because it was kinda fun I'll do a pose like this!

@Preety_India Danke dir für dein Beileid.

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@HypnoticMagician I feel the opposite it would gain more. If you really want to play advocatus diaboli play it with a bit more mindfulness. I love criticism, yet what you wrote is sheer stupidity and myopia. I am better off doing the stuff instead of receiving that kind of feedback. What you are saying stuff that happend in my life would basically drive you to suicide for me you are just some rando online. I don't think commenting me is going to work for you. Just stop it. Writting j.k like a 12 y.o apologizing for brat like behaviour using this nasty kind of fantasy language. I don't know just give others feedback who are worse off than me. Your opinion to me is as close to worthless as it gets. The amount of assumptions you make is horrible. Go troll someone else. I care about results and not about your philosophy of things. What kind of feedback is this? The way you type almost tells me everything about you. So, just go through your transformation. Talking about assumptions.

@HypnoticMagician I think you received your fair portion of Hitlery in life. I am unsure how to reply to this level of toxcitity I am pretty sure you'll get banned also. Here a reply. Basically everything you type would be negated by dating coaches. Plastic surgery won't help anyones self-image very much without an internal change. Also, I don't ponder sex all the time that is an assumption based on your perception not mine. Also, I am not interested to keeping women around like a dog. There are way more important things to do. Going through data online even from one dating coach I am doing pretty good. Also your comments are highly misogynistic. If you have success that way great. Yet I highly doubt you'd keep a "women around" for some time. I was wondering but I figured it out. It's A Okay just please get banned you are perfect fuel. Maybe buy a dog instead of a cat or even dating.

What works as a humorous silly pic? Dressed up in a silly way. Making weird faces. Using girl clothes dressed as a women etc. or very feminine. making fun of gender roles/gender as a social construct. Silly pose? Twisted like a bretzel upside down hanging from a tree Using make up to look like an animal cat,dog, vulture, tortoise, turtle Not very good with this one yet, if you have any ideas relating to humerous pictures I'd appreciate it. I'll see if one of my friends and I can channel our inner goofball. Did some pictures "doing" sporty activity they are rather weak currently. IMO. I will see what works we took some yesterday outside after doing dips/cardio/pull-ups. I did them after a dip pose at the calisthenics stuff. I'll post if I find something that works. What worked was photofeeler wise using a grey filter sometimes.