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@ajasatya Sorry, I know you think, you’re liberated (not trying to be belittling), but I get the sense that you may not be fully liberated. Take that with a grain of salt tho of course (because what do I know after all )

@pluto What you have to realize is that people are unique with unique personalities. I’m the same personality type as Leo (INTP), and we can’t help but conceptualise almost on a moment by moment basis, so it would be inauthentic to not spread our theories or “truths” to others. You may be content to just bliss out on love 24/7 (and more power to ya), but I’m certainly not. You also have to understand that there’s a difference between enlightenment and self-actualisation, and in my (not so) humble opinion, they are equally important. Just some food for thought (but I guess you don’t like thinking, right )

@Inliytened1 Coral moves from liberalism to capitalism. When I was in Turquoise, I thought the labor (I live in Australia) party was the better party (the labor party is the liberals for you Americans). The reason I think capitalism is the best system, is because it is survival of the fittest, and in order to progress as rapidly as possible as a species, survival of the fittest needs to reign supreme (but not too supreme - there needs to be dynamic balance of course). We do still have to cater for the (let’s just say) not so competent among us, but we can’t cater too much for them or else we will stagnate. I think Jordan Peterson is much more evolved than Leo gives him credit for (he definitely has some coral in him, as well as a lot of yellow and a little turquoise I’d say). Although, as an aside, I don’t think it’s actually true (based on my direct experience) that you have to move up the stages in a linear sequence). Anyway, I’m rambling now And I agree with your comment about free will (it is the greatest illusion). In my mind (which might be the problem ) it seems as if us having no free will is the only duality that doesn’t have an opposite (if you know what I mean).

You do realize, right, that life gets infinitely better and better after enlightenment, although every day is the best day simultaneously (the whole mind-matrix consists of dualities ) But once you are in heaven (enlightened), in a relative sense, every day is better than the last. Pleasure on pleasure on pleasure on pleasure for eternity. ETERNITY!!! An enlightened being, at least in my case as my primal sign (look into it), is Taurus, just wants pleasure. Taureans aside, who doesn’t fucking love pleasure. If you could have a never-ending stream of pleasure, would you turn it down? Fuck no. It’s actual BLISS. Like you actually don’t understand. IT’S INFINITELY BLISSFUL. The mind can’t comprehend such states because the mind operates in concepts and not direct experience, but I prophesy that we will all be living the dream (so to speak ), soon enough. The apocalypse is coming, if you can’t see the signs, delusion is clouding your judgment I’m sorry. Not trying to talk down to anyone, just speaking what I know. So buckle up, the apocalypse is gonna be hella fun

The one (and maybe only) good thing about addiction, is that the longer you go without your drug of choice, the better it feels once you get it.

I'm keen to buy the booklist, but I can't find the price anywhere. I'm broke atm as well so I might not be able to buy it anytime soon but was just wondering. Apologies for the newby question lol

@Markus Enlightenment (the cessation of suffering) does exist (as verified through direct experience.) Yes, hitting non-dual states is not enlightenment because they are not abiding. I believe (or know, rather; once again through direct experience), that one can hit non-dual states and actually abide in them for extended periods of time. Since I am diagnosed bipolar, I’ve had manic episodes whereby I entered non-dual states for months at a time. I’ve had four psychiatric ward stays because mere mortals (aka unenlightened ones), fear when their loved ones become God right before their eyes. My first episode was especially intense. Trigger warning; strong language. I was screaming cu** over and over again in front of my mum and told her to punch me in the face. I have a fire within me that is unquenchable (as I’m a Taurus according to primal astrology - which I’d highly recommend you look into). After such non-dual intense states (well it’s not really a state), I had a severe ego backlash where my iq dropped to below 100 whereas in my manic states it probably pushes 160+) Just thought that was an interesting anecdote to share.

@Drake140 Sorry but @abrakamowse is right (subjectively speaking of course - or is it objective). Everything is one after all. Every opposite exists because of its opposite. And karma exists for sure. Isaac Newton (amongst others) coined it when he said every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Enlightenment (as the Buddha put it), is the eradication of karma, so, once you’re enlightened, you can actually do whatever the fuck you want with zero consequences for yourself. Not gonna lie, I’m a massive zen devil. I simply don’t give a fuck how my actions cause suffering for those around me. But, of course, since reality is perfect, I am perfect <3

@abrakamowse Correct my friend

Enlightenment is FUCKIN AMAZING!!! You simply do not understand what no suffering entails. And it just gets better and better over time (and time is infinite). It is my firm belief that the end result of human evolution is enlightenment for all. Everyone is saved and goes to heaven (or hell if that’s your kink) I, like Leo (as oppossed to some enlightened masters), don’t like to downplay the magnitude and absolute beauty that enlightenment brings. As an enlightened being, it is effortless to know if someone else is enlightened. The words they use and the way they carry themselves is more than enough of a sign <3

@Inliytened1 Sounds like a plan dude. Get that root chakra activated. It’s the primal and most important chakra after all. Without awakening the root chakra in its entirety I doubt you will ever be able to awaken the crown (enlightenment) chakra

@outlandish Yeah man that’s what I mean (I guess )

@Jack River You’re clearly a highly evolved being. Congratulations

@Drake140 I feel shit bro, I feel shit. I’ve (definitely not full - but to a great extent) opened up my heart chakra. It is going to be the last chakra of mine to open fully (my crown and third eye) are already 100% functional and unblocked. But, because I’m an INTP (bringing Myers Briggs into the equation), Fe (which is the social harmony function) is my inferior function, meaning it will take the longest to fully maturate. I simply don’t judge people (as there is no free will and therefore no one to judge), but I don’t have the infinite love aspect of the god head unlocked just yet. All in due time my friends, and time is infinite

@Jack River I am the highest (as Osho would say).

@lmfao Yeah man Mooji is also the shit. I reckon he was one of the most enlightened motherfuckers around in his time. I highly recommend checking out Terence McKenna if you haven’t already. Probably the smartest (if not the most enlightened) mystic of his time.

You probably have internet-induced adhd, so it would be good if you took a break from the internet for long stretches in the day and go for walks in nature/do do no-thing meditation. Hope this helps

Weed has been the biggest catalyst for my spiritual growth (and I've attained godly heights - once again not trying to be cocky), so I think it's at least worth a shot by Leo. Who knows, it could elevate your state of consciousness even more through the roof (as it has mine). I know it's physically and psychologically addicting, but I've known smokers that have smoked weed daily for years on end and have been able to give it up easily enough. I'm sure even psychedelics are mildly psychologically addicting (and maybe even physically also). I think anything that gives you that high feeling is going to be addictive in one way or another. So yeah, to summarize, weed unlocked my genius, and it very well do the same for you (more than your genius has already been unlocked). Gotta evolve from turquoise one day man. Coral awaits @Leo Gura

But maybe there’s a combination of substances (tailored to each individual) that results in a never-ending elevation of consciousness. Also, you do realize it is possible to be an enlightened addict. I am one myself.

Yeah fair, but maybe if you’re using multiple substances periodically, it can offset the homeostasis that would occur if you were just smoking cigarettes for example

@Shadowraix Paradoxes on paradoxes my friend

You would (possibly) be nothingness aka formlessness. However, form is inseparable from formlessness, therefore it’s impossible for you to exist. It’s impossible for reality to be any other way than it is since God using his infinite intellect and infinite love, created the only possible configuration of existence. Tl;dr No

@David Hammond Chill out and have a cone man

Hot take: There's nothing wrong with being a zen devil (said the zen devil of course )

@Consept What sets coral apart ime, is you no longer worry about the impact that your actions are having on others (because it's essentially a selfish/individualistic level of the spiral). So, essentially, you become a zen devil. That being said, if you've transcended and integrated turquoise and all of the other prior stages properly, you will still have that all-encompassing love for the world that stage turquoise ppl have. But, you'll know deep down that whatever action you take is God taking the action, so you've 100% given your life over to God to the point where if you shot someone in the head you would know it was God's will and your will simultaneously (since they are one and the same). Hope that clears it up for you.