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@LSD-Rumi Oh I see.. That's unfortunate... might have to really dig I wish I knew a source. My preference is not to take any anti-depressants. But I recently got diagnosed with fibromyalgia which was affecting me a lot day-to-day. Apparently, I was told anti-depressants might help. So I'm trying it again on a lower dosage. So far it seems to help with the exhaustion and does seem to stablize my mood as well, it's only been a few days so I have yet to see how it plays out. Maybe I was struggling with some lingering depression too that I thought was gone.

I seem to experience the opposite frequently . There's the being emotional in the right times/being vulnerable for connection, which is strength in its own way when not overly indulged upon..(it's like psychedelics.. you build tolerance if taking it too often); then there's the always needing to be soothed and validated (which I see alot of guys around me do more than they are willing to admit..). I guess how I experience the two genders is that there are just a lot of emotionally needy people in general who need more healing before they can offer a lot of value to a partner, friend, etc. But it is also counterintuitively through those kinds of connections that one finds healing.

Great list! Yes those hotlines can be really good and I'm glad it's there when you literally have no one else to talk to about it.

@LSD-Rumi LOL I am sort of taking that right now to help with a different thing.. How come you couldn't get a prescription? My docs tried to make me take it so many times and I refused after trying it initially. Seems easy ish to get.

Yes.. one of the most loving and endearing moments I felt with a man was when he teared up with me. Well he was also masculine and embodied the feminine. Super rare.

I'm sorry you guys @Blackhawk @Breakingthewall I get what you mean and have been there (and can still go there at times). It's that hyper awareness of what's going on around you and the lack of warmth in general with the current state we're in. But you can choose to have faith that development is generally going to trend towards higher consciousness and increasing Love over time (and it has been). It's a hell of a grind both individually and collectively. Do you want to take on this challenge of both developing yourself to that ideal you seek and to be of aid in the process of the collective becoming such? That's the real call when you're in this kind of deep suicidal depression. And accepting the call takes alot of courage and Love from within you which first you must find ways to fill to a decent baseline. So I'm not saying it's easy to do.

@Something Funny It can be a huge undertakinig to try to "bring someone to higher consciousness/more love", without knowing if it'll lead to anything. I'm not disagreeing that you can work on yourself. But it would be hard to try to get someone else to do it hahaa and soon you'll burn out/becomes one-sided because there's not a "reflecting back" of what you put out if the gap is too great.

I'm just using that example loosely to demonstrate a point, but I understand that it's being "overused" perhaps lawl. You can embrace working at McD and use it as fuel for whatever else you're interested in if it came to that. I know it can be counterintuitive too so you gotta pick your own lanes.. eg, more spiritual folks might actually want to do jobs like cleaning, mail delivery, etc just to have a more peaceful environment if they don't got better options. But ideally with more control and freedom of expression over their work.

Not my style (like being asked a bunch of numbers and being overly verbal and rushing things, but it is also a public setting so who knows, hahaha), but kudos to the guy for caring and accepting the sadness part. Not totally related but I've experienced way more profound stuff in therapy once.. but it was hard to say how much of it was because of the money and how much of it came from himself. I'll never know for certain (though I have some gut feelings on it). But to add, it does require two very developed individuals, that's the limiter on how deep you can go with each other.

LOL nope. Just sayin moving to a different country doesn't magically solve all your problems either. Gotta give the fair warning.

I think if your values are strongly clashing with the status quo (and leading you to feel discontented more often than not and not feel at peace..), that is a valid reason to try to move. Because you might desire to live more and more in alignment with your values whenever possible (Unless you have some ambition to change things, have some other calling or career related things to keep you there).

Hah, relatively speaking.. Similar challenges exist especially the big cities if one is aiming for economic freedom. Less political drama I guess. Seemingly good welfare system on the surface, but has lots of holes in it still once you take a closer look. But yes it's hard to critique things when speaking to an American rofl. LOL, I like the weather here with the distinct seasons. Winters can be a bit long for some. I can't take the heat for too long so this is good. Might be bit of a problem if things keep warming up..

It's not necessary either, one can increase the capacity for Loving anyone. It's just a tall order as most will at least have some attachment to their survival and limitation with time and energy etc.

It's not "necessary" but it is currently how God is experiencing reality - through differentiation, seperation. More dissolution of the ego and return to the singularity of consciousness will diminish such things. Both are valid ways for consciousness to express itself. There's what you might call "limitations" of both. But it is possible for one to increase the embodiment of Love to the point where differentiation is not nearly as important. It's a kind of spectrum you can slide back and forth..

Sounds like some trauma being stirred up.

Yeah.. I heard it's not that easy to do. Certain skills easier than others.

??? Though it's not making much sense what you say either... Why would you poison yourself? Are you a masochist???

It's very possible if you're open and can go deep into things. How long you can maintain it that's another question I guess and requires conscious effort.

Yeah that sums things up... One can still find love for just about anyone.. it can be great fuel for increasing your capacity to love if you accept the challenge. It's just a big ask of most now, so we shouldn't demand people to love anyone (including "narcissists"). That all has to come from within. Healing and some distance apart from so-called "narcissists" seems to help with that..

Y'all should move to Canada. Well it's not perfect but I appreciate many things here in comparison...

So you're just posting shit.

What does that have to do with anything?

LOL... it's either this or the dating section.

There're patterns with men and women, but there are always exceptions to those patterns. The more you project your ideas of how a man or a woman is supposed to be the more that becomes what you see. For someone to reach their full potential, we need more people who hold the space for any possibility to arise, than projecting our ideas of how things should turn out. That's the problem when I see you guys talk about men and women as only good for one thing and not other things. With every generalized statement you can make a counter statement (plenty of good fathers and bad mothers, and vice versa, just ask a psychologist). Being a woman does not at all by default mean you're a better parent - it's a skill that requires cultivating beyond a baseline like most things. I could easily make the counter argument that women are not good parents as psychologists will tell you that most problems of their patients are from their mothers and especially the mother-daughter and mother-in-law/daughter-in-law relationship. The harm I see in this kind of assumption is that it tends to create a society where men do not pay much attention to their children because they simply "trust" that the woman will do a good job. This can actually cause a lot of harm when there's simply no involvement at the extreme end of things. Of course I am biased too, and I do recognize the general patterns/tendencies between the genders. But thought I'd point out these things as they have become too obvious to ignore.

@AuroraDream @Loba You guys need some more nuance here geebuz. Of course ultimately it is up to you.