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@Red-White-Light I will consider such possiblity, until someone explains to me how my food in the oven dissapeared out of nowhere. The other reason why I think its possible, is cuz I had an experience with a sucubus in the past touching my stomach when I was laying down in my bed. I just found out this to be a phenomena on paranormal activity done by spirits. Nvm, im gonna contact a psychic.

@Arcangelo LMAO, I knew I shouldn't have spoken about this. Nevermind everyone, just ignore this thread. I get why Leo and many others just shut their mouth.

@justfortoday @Godhead I know there's a fine line between this description and memory loss, but my memory is pretty good. Actually, it wasnt burritos, there were 2 "quesadillas". I ate 2 in the morning and let the other 2 all day in the oven. I ate rice for lunch and saw the quesadillas still in the oven. Then at night, they were not there. Neither on my fridge. Its super weird. Im telling you and I have not found any of the lost stuff. The few times I have ever lost something I know I lost them somewhere and cant remember. But these things were in their place. And when I wanted to get them they were not there. I will just see If things still dissapear. And If I get to find any I will confirm it was me. But theres nothing confirming it, loosing all these things without even knowing it. Specially food I saw, bruh. It sounds funny and too crazy to be true, but im not joking lmao.

Most of you know Frank here. But even more interesting than him is the case of his gf. Who was his guru. She says she was already entering the state of non locality and non duality at the age of 3. That it has been her normal way of living till then and she cant comprehend very clear what is to have a separate self. I have always taught why cant we be born at least almost enlightened. I dont understand how God can play hide and seek so genuinely. Enligthenment should be easier. Anyways, check her out, shes the type of gf I want. What the heck does genenetics (physical) has to do with enligthenment (God/Truth/Infinity/Non physical)? Im talking about it, cuz even @Leo Gura has mentioned such thing.

Guys, as you know enligthenment is no joke nor an easy task. So, I would like to know from your personal experiences how have you dealed with this dilemma in the past. This also goes to any enlightened being in the forum who sees this. My dilemma is the following. Is it better to get your shit together in your life and then go full enligthenment or get enlightened & dont suffer but be a misery in the game while it lasts. I have tried becoming enlightened in the past and have been close to it, dedicating from 1 to almost 2 years of really nothing else but theorical spirituality, psychology and insane meditation. No social life, no focus on money, no girls, not caring much about my career, job etc. Then I got tired (my ego dragged me down again) because, yes i was feeling amazing and had peace, stillness, clarity, bliss etc. But, this created alot of external drama. My family thought I was going crazy. I almost got kicked on my job. I almost quitted college. I broke up with my last gf. And no, I wasnt affected at all. I was willing to die physically with no problem whatsoever. The thing is, after that I realized like whats the hurry? Too much speed is from the devil. Maybe even in enligthenment... But, is like, after seeing God I dont want to waste such opportunity and time. But at the same time I would like to have my shit together. Like, what if after enligthenment I become a homeless and I could have prevented that by learning how to trade and build some business that I can still run after liberation. From what I have seen from most enlightened people, they continue doing what they did in the past, unless they just become teachers. But, only because they learned that skill in the past. And they do it now as an art form. But if you get enlightened with no skill, you will have no interest in learning it. Which is the case with most sages in India living on the streets. Its like every year passing by without total liberation is hurting me because it could be a golden year from my youth to explode and explore. Or am I just exagerating? And now with so many business and investements opportunities but also so many gurus talking about the apocalypse... Its a dilemma on which to make the best investement and dont regret. Maybe this is also happening to someone else here. What do you guys think?

@Mu_ Im gonna try my best to be divided and undivided at the same time. I just cant be in the middle, at least during the process. Either all in or all out. I tried that chilled way in the past and I had 0 results. It wasnt until i was tired like just tired of all. Ready to die even physically that God revealed to me.

@BipolarGrowth Theres already a thread on this, but i like it. Nice. I also like this one

@Eyal Bor Her energy is going to drag you down at some point. The fact that you accept her energy, communicates to your subconcious mind that you and her are a match. So either your energy frequency will have to lower on to her or she will have to catch you up. If you are not present enough/Aware, negativity will eat you. You are saying yes unconsciously to her negativity. At some point you might end up needy too and enter a loop with her. This happened to me with my last gf. I didnt want to hurt her, but she was needy, so i started acepting her bla bla bla, and ended on her frequency match. Your consciousness/intuition will tell you what is right even thou it might appear as negative paradoxically. When I ended my relationship it was hard at first, but it was the best thing for both on the long run. Another thing you can consider is ending the relationship but stay as a friend to her. Be clear on the things you like, but you can support her on anything you think you might help. The last thing both of you can do is in "The Power of Now" it speaks of these stuff about relationships. If you make the commitment to ascend to a new presence and "She" agrees, that might save both of you. But just hear the inner voice. Its there speaking. Literally.

@iamthat Well, from personal experience when im deeply rooted in bliss I-I, I just dont feel like doing anything. I dont want to talk, act or even think. Everything seems so vain and phony in comparison to truth. I dont know if its because im still in the process and have not arrived to stabilize in Infinity yet. Some teachers say that we loose our old motivations. And I do. I dont feel like making money, just doing things for the sake of it and its hard. I almost have to force my self. Its like I just want to die already, go mahasamadhi. Stay all day in the bliss of Iam. Another thing is, when im practicing alot of spirituality I loose my social skills and desires. My personality just drops and people find me a little bit weird. Like theres something wrong. And I get that, its actually a radical change from a charismatic personality to almost a silent no body. Right now I have lost a bit of my spiritual momentum and have just lived in the mundane for a while. Im trying to look for new strategies on how to integrate both successfully without causing external drama.

@Johnny5 @Johnny5 How did you discovered your authentic desires?

@Demeter Just got the book man. In what chapter and topic is the dilemma?

@LfcCharlie4 This is something I want to know. Like, Im studying law, but at the sametime I dont want to be a formal lawyer. I have needed to change my motivation on it as to just learning the law and structures of society for general knowledge, business and self defense. It has been hard. And now am about to graduate. When I had my first deep enligthenment I wanted to quit college. So, Its like if I go that deep again I might not finish. Idk, maybe I just created a self limiting belief on that. At the same time, I find it hard to resonate with it. I force my self. But i want to finish it, just to get the degree. I resonate more towards trading and investements. But as I said, motivations change. What if I also dont want to be an Investor? Wtf im I gonna do lmao. Why do motivations change? Can i still be a Lawyer and Investor? You see what I mean. Instead of doing so much zig zag, if I just get the damn money first, I can then without worries go to Infinity and beyond. I will have the money to do what I want after it. Also bro, have Ananda and Ramaji thought you anything similar about this topic? Why ananda quitted her money? Are they rich?

@Aaron p Yeah. But, when I say no money, girls, be alone, etc. Is just for the sake of creating spiritual momentum. Its hard to go deeply within while being distracted by over sensations, pleasure and creating more karma aswell. After enligthenment I would gladly do all those. Also, Leo is not enlightened. He is so close to it that he dont want to really attain it. He has my dilemma but on a different context. He thinks that he might not want to do any more actualized.org, or get sex, leave his family or just stop living his nice comfy lifestyle.

@Artsu Enligthenment of course but who knows if I will want to be a teacher after liberation. But before you personally get enlightened what would you choose to do first and why. Im not talking about ego fulfillment. I mean like you are ready to die for truth. Would you order your life needs first through some business and then get enlightened. Or just choose enligthenenment and cause alot of drama for you and the people in your surroundings. Seeing where things go. You might die and not make money. How will that impact others? You will be saved but as an incarnation it probably had not much value as it could had. Im talking about having the best life possible. Not rich and lost. Not saved and a misery.

@Byun Sean Thanks for your reply man. Actually I suffer very little and have good self-esteem. I only wanted to run from suffering when I was learning all this stuff. But, what I mean most than anything is if its better to cover our life survival needs and then become enlightened or vice versa. I dont care about ego fulfillment. What I mean is simply ordering our lives before total surrender so we can have a better time than vice versa. Im starting to think that it if you dont have a plan covering your survival needs after enligthenment can be a hurdle. Cuz the mind is off and you are to re learn how to socialize from a new source of being and think all the old concepts matrix of society. Like, if you were ready right now for enligthenment, what would you choose. Enligthenment and fuck everything by trusting and see where things go or create a system that will cover your needs so that you can get enlightened without any extra hurdles.

@traveler Dont fool yourself so easily.

Lets get our guns before enligthenment and prepare for the up coming chaos.

Min 7:20

I would like to see if @Leo Gura has any explanation or knowledge about this. Actually, Ive always been curious with those religious tremblings. I ve seen it happen in front of me when I used to go to the church my family goes and camps. You see people falling down unconscious as is something striked them. Also, speaking in tongues. The only conclusion I have till now is that these people are made to open themselves up by the pastor guidance and they are not prepared to handle all the crazyness that comes from the unconscious so they just react and believe it all, making their experience very random and crazy. Plus they might enter a trance state from the guidance. Depending of how low conscious the person is, they can attract and create beliefs/stories in a rapid way. For ex, if they are feeling like they are going to get unconscious, that might trigger their memory to interpet the situation as you are now going to speak in tongues and if such thought is believed, they might fall into it and start speaking like crazy in a genuine but deluded way. They might also invoke spirits. I have only seen once in my life a person been possesed and its a very unique experience. The voice really changes and they start doing crazy stuff. But, I dont know if anyone has ever experience or heard something like this. Well, my mom is a very religious person (christian). She told me that in one of their private sessions of prayer in a campament, a women started to go crazy. Her tonality changed into that of a man, saying the words "Shes mine! Im her owner!" She also told me her face became old, greenish and masculine and then the most fucked thing happened. She started levitating (Very much like the thumbnail in Leo's video "Cult Psychology) . I actually cannot disbelieve such thing, because my mom takes religion very serious and she feels God would punish her for lying. No idea how demonic possession works, but churches are definetively full of crazy shit.

@Stenne It does works. Test it yourself by faping 5 days straight. Then go no fap for 1 month. Even an enlightened being once told me the benefits about not fapping, so i guess its good. @Chumbimba Bruhh. Hahah. I feel you. Having a wet dream after such effort is frustrating. At least it feels very real and satisfying. The bad thing is the mess.

@killyourinnerloser Great guide man. Keep it up. The only sad thing is, theres a pandemic and dating sucks in my country.

@Space The max ive gone no fap is 3 months. That thing they call flatline is actually just stabilizing your sexuality and calming it down into normality. Ive gone to the point I dont even want to touch my dick, lmao. But, Its not that you are loosing sex drive. In that mode you are alot more able to have success socializing with girls with out a horny neediness. You will get turned on and wet very fast if a girl starts flirting and fore playing with you because at that moment you dont remember how sexual pleasure feels, thus your imagination gets activated wondering and making the process more enjoyable. If you dont fap, your mind and body will find the way to expulse that milk, so dont worry. Either through a wet dream or an astral bitch.

@Display_Name You are confusing my words. What is known as "State" is being in the zone (total focus of the now). Feeling good is another type of state. Being in the mood of socializing is another state, which is what I referred to having the will to approach. And turning your self on into a sexual mood is another complete different type of state. Ofc you should not depend on states to act. But, it will reduce alot of your success. Even if you get the girl in a bad mood and you dont fix your moods/states, in the long run you wont be able to stay with the girl. She wont feel emotionally stable with you.

@Leo Gura Damn.

@Arcangelo When someone makes you do something you are not feeling like into the moment, you are not being self honest. It means going against your own will. At that moment, your psychology is splitted. You are not going to be authentic in that moment because you are working under external expectations, rather by self intuition and emotional guidance. Ofcourse, if you are in a sexual mood you can make her feel horny aswell. You just dont know how to do it properly. If you are compulsive and do not escalate properly you will scare her away and be needy. On the other hand, if you get horny, Its even faster to influence to have sex. You have not observed how your psychology works. If you get sexual and relaxed at the same time, your behaviour will change, words, tonality, etc. You can use that mode to seduce from indirect and subliminal sub-communications, until it becomes direct. You can ask leo, he knows what im talking. Girls will read your mood, emotions and energy in seconds. I dont know if you mean horny as coming sexually needy. Ofc that will Push her away. Im talking about being in a sexual mood/mode + relaxed. It changes your complete aura, behaviour and reactions of others. @Display_Name I never liked RSD. Better learn from Mystery and Arash Dibazar.