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I actually listened to that episode right after the solipsism episode. But wasn't the point from the infinity of gods about how he separated himself: "but if there could be another godhead that was in another dimension that I could not dream up myself", and while he was continuing the separation before the construct collapsed and he said ended on "solipsism still holds"? 😄 that he started to separate himself as absolute god into different godheads
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@Yimpa Just increase in vibration. Less thinking and more bodely sensation (as a human). To the point where the vibration becomes so strong that is spreads across the surrounding, the time stops and "physical reality" just dissolves. You know the feeling when taking a hit of 5-meo-dmt and you feel light at a feather and feel like you are accelerated to lightspeed.
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Just made transcript from the youtube film (hope this is fine. and please just remove the video if its a problem): 27:01–28:01 “You are the only conscious thing in existence. There cannot be any other conscious being but you. That's what you are. There are not multiple conscious beings out there. There are not Souls. There are not parallel lives that are being lived. There's not a past life and an afterlife. There's only your mind right now - your mind right now. What you're seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, smelling, thinking, imagining - that's all that exists. That's what existence is. Nothing more, nothing less.” 38:49–40:35 “Rather than creating a bunch of different creatures who have Consciousness, and creating atoms which come together and make molecules, and those molecules form neurons, those neurons form synapses, and those somehow generate some sort of cloud of Consciousness, and then within that cloud of Consciousness there's some sort of perceptions and stuff, and having multiple millions and billions and trillions of these different clouds of consciousnesses all interconnecting with each other and working together - this is sort of the scientific model of how reality is constructed. Rather than having all of that, all you need to do is just have one consciousness which fools itself with images of something outside of itself - other Minds, other consciousnesses - and that's it. [...] You don't need different minds and different organisms and all of this. You don't need any of that. All you need is one mind that dreams up everything else. It's like a stage set for a camera - for one camera. There's only one camera.” 1:30:12–1:30:50 “But Leo, don't you have your own experience like I have my own experience, and then you have your own experience, right? No. There's only your experience. I am your experience. But Leo, why do you speak as though you have your own experience if you actually don't? Why are you tricking me? Again, I'm not tricking you. You're tricking you.” 1:35:51–1:36:59 “This is all your mind. This is all your dream. All the bodies in it are projections of your own mind. But Leo, if I'm imagining you and you're imagining me, how can that be? That doesn't compute. It's illogical. It doesn't compute because there's only you imagining me. Stop imagining that I have any experience or Consciousness or mind outside of you. Keep doing that - not just with me, but with everybody else. Keep doing that and doing that and doing that until you are left completely alone in a solipsistic bubble of your own Consciousness, until there's nothing left but your own bubble. And when that happens, that's Awakening.” 2:46:26–2:48:37 “But Leo, shouldn't an all powerful God have the power to create multiple selves and experiences? You make God seem like he's this weak thing because he can't create a real other human being, and this contradicts God's omnipotence. Like I said, God is you, a singular conscious entity. This entity at its highest level is one. It cannot be other than one. It can, however, multiply itself by subdividing itself. So through subdivision of itself it can fragment itself and create multiple selves, in a sense. But these multiple selves, you have to understand, from the highest perspective are always quasi or pseudo selves. They are relative partitions which will collapse, and they are being imagined and held within your mind as God. So God can dream all sorts of selves, including your human self that you're cosplaying as right now. God can do all that. But God can also stop doing that and realize that it's one and that it's you. [...] The contradiction would be if God could actually separate itself from itself permanently, because what you're asking for is like you're asking for you to be God here and then somebody else to be God over there, and both have to be all powerful and all knowing and all-seeing, but at the same time also separate from each other. That is what is contradictory and actually impossible.” So my takeaway from this is: there could only be one experience "at a time" because god is unlimited, and if there were other conscious experiences out there but my own right now, that would imply that god is limited.
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@Davino If other people can have a conscious experience while I have a conscious experience. Just to preface, I am NOT speaking about my egoic self as "I" and you as "other" and that we are seperate. I am speaking about "god" experiencing "my" existence and perspective right now only. And the same with you if you are reading this. Either 1. When I write this to you from the subjective perspective I am experiencing right now, no other people in this world are conscious or aware but me, and you are just part of my imagination. And that the only way you could have a conscious perspective and experience, was if I my perspective didnt exist right. And the same with you as well. If you are reading this, that means that I am not a conscious or aware being. or 2. We are everybody god, and the differentiation between us that we experience as egos, is just a cognitive process. But that it is possible for god to have experiences simountaneously at the same time. Everybody is awake and aware, but we are just fragmented bits of god. In other words, if god could only have experiences in a sequential matter og if god could have parallell experiences at the same time. And also. I know time dosent exist as well, but its just easier for me to explain it in linear terms.
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@Willy Phallicus I would just refer to the other answer I gave. The thing I am pondering about is the god has many eyes at the same time, but from Leo's video, it dosent seem that he agrees with that. There's One Consciousness and everything is mediated through it, whatever may or may not happen will be through it. Experiences are Infinite, there's no end and no beginning to what can be experienced. This question kinda circles back to the solipsism question. If you look at the other answer I gave that other people cant be conscious if you ar conscious yourself, then, if that is tru, what would happen if we got connected together, if that makes sense.
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Like I understand everything you are saying and I my post wasnt very nuanced. Sorry for not prefacing, but Im not some kind of noob. I have a lot of experience with meditation and many many many deep breakthrough doses on different psychedelics. When I am talking about "I", I am not referring to my ego. When I am talking about solipsism, Im not pointing to metaphysical or some philosophical solipsism. I am talking about the "absolute" solipsism Leo is talking about. He deleted the video, but I rewatched it from a reuploader. Have also read books etc. And the difference when I see people talk about solipsism on this forum compared to how Leo talks about it, it seems that there is a difference. And that is the differentiation I am trying to understand. I have read many posts about people talking about "we are all god experiencing ourselves through many eyes at the same time" so there is no distinction between me or you as god. We just play different characters. When I die, I can reincarnate as you and vice versa. BUT, in this view there are many experiences going on simountaneously. When i watched Leo's video, it seems to me at least, that he is VERY deliberate about not talking about other people being conscious at the same time. Very deliberate. He menstion in the end "from my perspective" very carefully. And it seems to me he does that not to confuse people. And my takeaway is that there is no other. There is no other consicous beings inside my reality. There is only "I" (not talking about ego), and there couldnt be anybody other. And when this body dies, I could reincarnate into another human being, but if I met the person I am today through another avatar, that would mean that I would not be consoius at that time from the perspective of the avatar I am in right now. Kinda hard to explain. But just that there aren't any other beings being consious if you are consious yourself.
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It has been some time since I last did psychedelics, but lately I have watched some YouTube videos and read some books about solipsism. So I have been pondering a bit about what it all means. 1. When it comes to solipsism, do I understand this correctly that In this moment, while I am writing this text and I am conscious and aware of my sensory experience and existence itself, my experience is the only thing that exists? Is my experience the only thing that actually exists in this particular moment? And since God is infinite, is it that the experience that "I" am having right now contains everything that could ever be, even though it seems finite from my perspective? Because if the experience wasnt infinite and didnt contain everything, god would be limited. And because of this, there could not be any other experiences happening at this exact moment when I am having this conscious experience and perspective, because that would imply that there is something beyond God, who is limitless? And the opposite: if we are all the same god, then when you are reading this text inside your subjective awareness, that mean that your experience is now the only experience playing out, while "mine" perspecitve is no longer happening, and I only exist as part of your experience and imagination? 2. If God is unlimited, is it possible for God to reincarnate from nothingness into a separate form in other ways than through a "physical reality" like ours? For example, could God reincarnate as a spiritual being in a "universe" without any physical laws, simply existing in some kind of ether? Could reincarnation happen in places where there arent any physical dimensions, but where there are still phenomena? Could God reincarnate in ways that we are not even capable of imagining from because of our limited form within our reality? 3. What could happen when we begin integrating electronics into our brains and potentially become able to connect ourselves directly to one another? Would it be possible to merge separate conscious experiences into one experience, and in some sense experience God from multiple peoples perspectives at the same time? Could we also create new kinds of new electronic sensors in our bodies, giving us access to forms of sensory input beyond the senses we currently have? Could it be possible to create sensory and in any way make it possible to interact with other and "new" phenomena like maybe dark matter. That we could change the way we interact with the reality we are in right now?
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I have to say. To some extent, I agree with you on royals being really cringe. They are literally people with no merit who stands above laypeople and who are praised for no other reason than their bloodline. However, I am a scandinavian from Norway. Our king died yesterday. He was 89 years old. He has been loved, respected and highly looked up to by a strong majority of our population. He was known for being down to earth and approachable, taking part in public events and activities in a very natural way. King Harald has many times been a unifying figure for the Norwegian people. For example after the July 22 terror attacks in Norway. There have also been periods of strong debate and tension around immigration where he has addressed this in his speeches. The King has always tried to mediate and build bridges when there has been conflict and he has always been clear about him represented everyone. I do not feel that this has only been “for show,” but that it has actually served an important purpose and impact during difficult periods by helping bring people together. Also, it has been in good times as well when Norway went to the quraters in the Fifa World Cup. I think that one of the reasons Norway is such a good country to live in is that we are very homogenous people where people trust eachother. I am not saying that royals are the reason why, but it could be a contributiong factor, or at least at reminder of who we are as a people and where we are coming from. Today though, his son who us the heir, I can´t say the same. He seems a bit flat NPC with no charmisma or personality. His wife has been entangeled with Epstein and there was a big uproar when the e-mails was dropped which showed very inappropriate communication. At the same time, his step son was just in court for violence in his relationshipts, transporting drugs, raping 4 girls etc. That was a big stain. But anyways, do you think that royal families could serve a purpose or that its a bit more nuanced than just "its ridiculous"?
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Yep. And this is a very childish thing to say. He has been very childish for a long time. But have you never been childish yourself? Have you never done something that you have been embarrased about? I personally can do and say stupid things in the heat of the moment. Look at parenting for example. All parents do and say stupid shit to their children all the time which they instantly regret when they are stressed out and hot headed. When people get emotional, their mentalization goes right in the toilet.
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I think that this make more sense than the other point you were making. But if you look at past interviews of him, do you think that he had a more compassionate and modest demeanor? Do you think that he never was genuine or compassionate?
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I feel like this is a bit black and white thinking. Dont you think people can be good and bad at the same time? If he only cared about money, why would he start Tesla and Spacex, when these companies was doomed from the start? Look at all green companies going to shit with no profitable business plan other than funding. And when they started Spacex, they had literally no plan to make it profitable (hence why they started with Starlink). Dont you think that he had a vision for a better future for humanity? Musk could have made other technology companies which at the time had a lot higher likelyhood of success.
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To be honest, there is a lot of misconception about kids and sexual identity. I have worked with such children in training, and a lot of the misconception is based upon ignorance. Yes there are some children who question their sexual identity where it is a symptom of something else. Many of them grow out of it. Health personell rarely addresses it, but in some instances, where the feeling of incongruence between for example body and sexual identity is so extreme that the child is capable of comitting suicide, then they are acting upon it. Only the worst parents arent capable of accepting it. This stuff is real. Like racism, you need to get exposed to what you are ignorant to.
