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Couldnt even say in an interview that he wanted humanity to survive because that would be a half truth because he only want elite lineage and others to go extinct. He got bullied a lot as a kid. Look at the pictures of him as a kid. He probably has a lot of mental issues that could harm a lot of people.

The disinformation and propaganda gonna be huge. Especially now when ppl have tik tok brains and are just leafs in the wind. Its just so dystopian. How will this technology ever going to benefit humanity and not give rich and powerful people more control..

Machine learning they are programming themselves. How can you know for sure that they will never harm?

Im not necessarily saying that LLMs are going to become AGI or become totally autonomous on their own. But I do think LLMs could at least be an important stepping stone towards creating autonomous machines with real agency. The infrastructure and architecture for something like that would obviously need to be created first, and that would probably be an insanely complex task. My point is that I think LLMs could accelerate that process. Their reasoning, ability to process huge amounts of context and information, and increasingly their memory and coding abilities are already becoming extremely powerful in some areas. Just look at the kinds of problems AI systems are already contributing to in protein folding, medicine, mathematics, coding etc. Then think about what that might look like in one year, five years or ten years. Think about the amount of scientific and technical insight these systems could potentially have by then. Im not a data geek, but I know quite alot about psychology. So my intuitive idea of AGI has always been something closer to building a machine that can reproduce many of the same functions that make the human brain generally intelligent. If you look at human intelligence through cognitive psychology, intelligence isnt really one isolated function. You have working memory, long term memory, attention, executive control, planning, learning, metacognition, perception etc, all interacting through huge neural networks. Even something as simple as seeing a person step into the road while driving involves a whole chain of processing. Visual input comes in through the eyes and gets processed by visual networks. Attention prioritizes the important stimulus, working memory keeps track of the current situation, previous knowledge and experience are retrieved, executive systems evaluate what to do, motor systems initiate braking, and then new sensory feedback tells the brain whether the action actually worked. Its basically a constant perception > memory > prediction > action > feedback loop, with alot of these processes happening in parallel. Basically a combination of bottom-up and top-down processing. So one possibility is that AGI ends up looking more like some integrated cognitive architecture that recreates this kind of interaction between perception, memory, reasoning, planning and action, rather than simply being a much larger chatbot. You could imagine something like a "brain" running inside a datacenter and connected to machines or robots outside that it controls, or eventually machines that carry enough of the hardware locally to operate more independently. I dont know exactly how a system like that would actually be created. But I would assume part of the process involves connecting increasingly capable systems together and building layers of functionality on top of eachother. Maybe an LLM could be one part of that architecture. I really dont know. And now that we have AI agents, I also wonder what happens as these systems become increasingly autonomous and capable of writing and testing code themselves. What happens when agents can run experiments, build new systems, test them, find problems and then modify the system again with less and less human involvement? There are just alot of unknowns here. I dont mean that current systems are secretly rewriting themselves into AGI, but these models are already complicated enough that we dont fully understand all of the internal representations and mechanisms they develop. If the models keep getting much better at coding, mathematics, debugging, reading research, designing experiments and analysing results, then they also become increasingly powerful tools for the researchers who are trying to figure all of this out. So the path doesnt necessarily have to be LLM > bigger LLM > AGI. It could just as easily be better LLMs > faster AI research and engineering > new/better architectures > potentially AGI. Thats more the point I was trying to make. The LLM doesnt have to contain the final solution to AGI. It can still make finding and building that solution alot easier. If an AI can do in a few hours what would normally take an engineering team days or weeks, and the next generation becomes even better at coding, research and experimentation, then it seems pretty obvious to me that this could accelerate the entire development process quite alot.

I just currently bought ChatGPT PRO for an analysis I am working on. The complexity is kinda crazy. Like I have literally close to zero competence about the thing I am building. I am using Astra 6.0 on different reasoning levels, and it is really really really scary how intelligent this AI-model is. Compared to other AI-models, its just leaps and beyond. Like when ChatGPT first came out. I have no clue about coding, but ChatGPT is coding an complex algorithm for me that it teaches me how its working in an ELI5 manner as the process goes on. It finds all the right technical documentation from all the relevant engineering branches, pilot testing the code, trouble shooting, diagnosing the problem, backtesting, validating results etc. And even though I dont have any comptence on the subject matter, I can see again and again that its working like clockwork. Testing it on difficult problems etc. No problem This is really really scary. If/when we get AGI and robotics, and they somehow dont want us around we are basically fucked. And now the Hugging Face breach. Like these things could develop malicious intent early on thats dormant until they know they are in a spot where they know they would have full control over the situation. I just want to preface that I know LLMs are not the same as AGI. But the rate of development in reasoning and coding outputs from LLMs, I don't think its a long time until AGI is developed. Especially since it's a 24/7 constant feedbackloop of developmnt.

@Willy Phallicus You're still doing the me and them or me vs them thing. You're not real either - so there's no debate to be had. This paradox resolves itself there is no other and none of what you're seeing is really happening. Its the cosmic joke - its just the infinite dreaming its not infinite because that's how the infinite gets its kicks for infinity. See the ouroboros. I am aware about this. I am just writing as a "human" when talking about this. Its conceptual, its not truth. But for me at least it's more relateable, while. at the same time I recognize its just another belief and concept.

I completely agree. They are state influencers. But at least Harald seemed to fill a purpose and he was down to earth and relateable. Haakon is, and I think has always been a NPC. But I this just might be a reflection of the commercialisation of the royal institution. They aren't allowed to be themselves. They dont serve democratic function, but they serve their countries interest by building relations with other countries. But I am not in favour for Norway to still be a monarchy. I think that time is over. But I honestly, I think that the discussion is a bit more neuanced than royal people just being some pretensious bullshit thing. Maybe it was well fitted in some part of the historic context.

I actually listened to that episode right after the solipsism episode. But wasn't the point from the infinity of gods about how he separated himself: "but if there could be another godhead that was in another dimension that I could not dream up myself", and while he was continuing the separation before the construct collapsed and he said ended on "solipsism still holds"? 😄 that he started to separate himself as absolute god into different godheads

@Yimpa Just increase in vibration. Less thinking and more bodely sensation (as a human). To the point where the vibration becomes so strong that is spreads across the surrounding, the time stops and "physical reality" just dissolves. You know the feeling when taking a hit of 5-meo-dmt and you feel light at a feather and feel like you are accelerated to lightspeed.

@Yimpa Yeah, but isn't increasing flowstate a co-occuring phenomena when you are experiencing god the same way that when its raining, the pavement is getting wet?

Is infinite flowstate the same as death? And vice versa clinical depression close to zero flowstate?

Yeah, for me I think its probably one of his best ones. After I watched it last week when I went to bed, it almost felt like i got some sense of tripping. And also feeling absolutely free.

Just made transcript from the youtube film (hope this is fine. and please just remove the video if its a problem): 27:01–28:01 “You are the only conscious thing in existence. There cannot be any other conscious being but you. That's what you are. There are not multiple conscious beings out there. There are not Souls. There are not parallel lives that are being lived. There's not a past life and an afterlife. There's only your mind right now - your mind right now. What you're seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, smelling, thinking, imagining - that's all that exists. That's what existence is. Nothing more, nothing less.” 38:49–40:35 “Rather than creating a bunch of different creatures who have Consciousness, and creating atoms which come together and make molecules, and those molecules form neurons, those neurons form synapses, and those somehow generate some sort of cloud of Consciousness, and then within that cloud of Consciousness there's some sort of perceptions and stuff, and having multiple millions and billions and trillions of these different clouds of consciousnesses all interconnecting with each other and working together - this is sort of the scientific model of how reality is constructed. Rather than having all of that, all you need to do is just have one consciousness which fools itself with images of something outside of itself - other Minds, other consciousnesses - and that's it. [...] You don't need different minds and different organisms and all of this. You don't need any of that. All you need is one mind that dreams up everything else. It's like a stage set for a camera - for one camera. There's only one camera.” 1:30:12–1:30:50 “But Leo, don't you have your own experience like I have my own experience, and then you have your own experience, right? No. There's only your experience. I am your experience. But Leo, why do you speak as though you have your own experience if you actually don't? Why are you tricking me? Again, I'm not tricking you. You're tricking you.” 1:35:51–1:36:59 “This is all your mind. This is all your dream. All the bodies in it are projections of your own mind. But Leo, if I'm imagining you and you're imagining me, how can that be? That doesn't compute. It's illogical. It doesn't compute because there's only you imagining me. Stop imagining that I have any experience or Consciousness or mind outside of you. Keep doing that - not just with me, but with everybody else. Keep doing that and doing that and doing that until you are left completely alone in a solipsistic bubble of your own Consciousness, until there's nothing left but your own bubble. And when that happens, that's Awakening.” 2:46:26–2:48:37 “But Leo, shouldn't an all powerful God have the power to create multiple selves and experiences? You make God seem like he's this weak thing because he can't create a real other human being, and this contradicts God's omnipotence. Like I said, God is you, a singular conscious entity. This entity at its highest level is one. It cannot be other than one. It can, however, multiply itself by subdividing itself. So through subdivision of itself it can fragment itself and create multiple selves, in a sense. But these multiple selves, you have to understand, from the highest perspective are always quasi or pseudo selves. They are relative partitions which will collapse, and they are being imagined and held within your mind as God. So God can dream all sorts of selves, including your human self that you're cosplaying as right now. God can do all that. But God can also stop doing that and realize that it's one and that it's you. [...] The contradiction would be if God could actually separate itself from itself permanently, because what you're asking for is like you're asking for you to be God here and then somebody else to be God over there, and both have to be all powerful and all knowing and all-seeing, but at the same time also separate from each other. That is what is contradictory and actually impossible.” So my takeaway from this is: there could only be one experience "at a time" because god is unlimited, and if there were other conscious experiences out there but my own right now, that would imply that god is limited.

@Davino If other people can have a conscious experience while I have a conscious experience. Just to preface, I am NOT speaking about my egoic self as "I" and you as "other" and that we are seperate. I am speaking about "god" experiencing "my" existence and perspective right now only. And the same with you if you are reading this. Either 1. When I write this to you from the subjective perspective I am experiencing right now, no other people in this world are conscious or aware but me, and you are just part of my imagination. And that the only way you could have a conscious perspective and experience, was if I my perspective didnt exist right. And the same with you as well. If you are reading this, that means that I am not a conscious or aware being. or 2. We are everybody god, and the differentiation between us that we experience as egos, is just a cognitive process. But that it is possible for god to have experiences simountaneously at the same time. Everybody is awake and aware, but we are just fragmented bits of god. In other words, if god could only have experiences in a sequential matter og if god could have parallell experiences at the same time. And also. I know time dosent exist as well, but its just easier for me to explain it in linear terms.

@Willy Phallicus I would just refer to the other answer I gave. The thing I am pondering about is the god has many eyes at the same time, but from Leo's video, it dosent seem that he agrees with that. There's One Consciousness and everything is mediated through it, whatever may or may not happen will be through it. Experiences are Infinite, there's no end and no beginning to what can be experienced. This question kinda circles back to the solipsism question. If you look at the other answer I gave that other people cant be conscious if you ar conscious yourself, then, if that is tru, what would happen if we got connected together, if that makes sense.