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I actually listened to that episode right after the solipsism episode. But wasn't the point from the infinity of gods about how he separated himself: "but if there could be another godhead that was in another dimension that I could not dream up myself", and while he was continuing the separation before the construct collapsed and he said ended on "solipsism still holds"? 😄 that he started to separate himself as absolute god into different godheads
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It has been some time since I last did psychedelics, but lately I have watched some YouTube videos and read some books about solipsism. So I have been pondering a bit about what it all means. 1. When it comes to solipsism, do I understand this correctly that In this moment, while I am writing this text and I am conscious and aware of my sensory experience and existence itself, my experience is the only thing that exists? Is my experience the only thing that actually exists in this particular moment? And since God is infinite, is it that the experience that "I" am having right now contains everything that could ever be, even though it seems finite from my perspective? Because if the experience wasnt infinite and didnt contain everything, god would be limited. And because of this, there could not be any other experiences happening at this exact moment when I am having this conscious experience and perspective, because that would imply that there is something beyond God, who is limitless? And the opposite: if we are all the same god, then when you are reading this text inside your subjective awareness, that mean that your experience is now the only experience playing out, while "mine" perspecitve is no longer happening, and I only exist as part of your experience and imagination? 2. If God is unlimited, is it possible for God to reincarnate from nothingness into a separate form in other ways than through a "physical reality" like ours? For example, could God reincarnate as a spiritual being in a "universe" without any physical laws, simply existing in some kind of ether? Could reincarnation happen in places where there arent any physical dimensions, but where there are still phenomena? Could God reincarnate in ways that we are not even capable of imagining from because of our limited form within our reality? 3. What could happen when we begin integrating electronics into our brains and potentially become able to connect ourselves directly to one another? Would it be possible to merge separate conscious experiences into one experience, and in some sense experience God from multiple peoples perspectives at the same time? Could we also create new kinds of new electronic sensors in our bodies, giving us access to forms of sensory input beyond the senses we currently have? Could it be possible to create sensory and in any way make it possible to interact with other and "new" phenomena like maybe dark matter. That we could change the way we interact with the reality we are in right now?
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@Yimpa Just increase in vibration. Less thinking and more bodely sensation (as a human). To the point where the vibration becomes so strong that is spreads across the surrounding, the time stops and "physical reality" just dissolves. You know the feeling when taking a hit of 5-meo-dmt and you feel light at a feather and feel like you are accelerated to lightspeed.
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Just made transcript from the youtube film (hope this is fine. and please just remove the video if its a problem): 27:01–28:01 “You are the only conscious thing in existence. There cannot be any other conscious being but you. That's what you are. There are not multiple conscious beings out there. There are not Souls. There are not parallel lives that are being lived. There's not a past life and an afterlife. There's only your mind right now - your mind right now. What you're seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, smelling, thinking, imagining - that's all that exists. That's what existence is. Nothing more, nothing less.” 38:49–40:35 “Rather than creating a bunch of different creatures who have Consciousness, and creating atoms which come together and make molecules, and those molecules form neurons, those neurons form synapses, and those somehow generate some sort of cloud of Consciousness, and then within that cloud of Consciousness there's some sort of perceptions and stuff, and having multiple millions and billions and trillions of these different clouds of consciousnesses all interconnecting with each other and working together - this is sort of the scientific model of how reality is constructed. Rather than having all of that, all you need to do is just have one consciousness which fools itself with images of something outside of itself - other Minds, other consciousnesses - and that's it. [...] You don't need different minds and different organisms and all of this. You don't need any of that. All you need is one mind that dreams up everything else. It's like a stage set for a camera - for one camera. There's only one camera.” 1:30:12–1:30:50 “But Leo, don't you have your own experience like I have my own experience, and then you have your own experience, right? No. There's only your experience. I am your experience. But Leo, why do you speak as though you have your own experience if you actually don't? Why are you tricking me? Again, I'm not tricking you. You're tricking you.” 1:35:51–1:36:59 “This is all your mind. This is all your dream. All the bodies in it are projections of your own mind. But Leo, if I'm imagining you and you're imagining me, how can that be? That doesn't compute. It's illogical. It doesn't compute because there's only you imagining me. Stop imagining that I have any experience or Consciousness or mind outside of you. Keep doing that - not just with me, but with everybody else. Keep doing that and doing that and doing that until you are left completely alone in a solipsistic bubble of your own Consciousness, until there's nothing left but your own bubble. And when that happens, that's Awakening.” 2:46:26–2:48:37 “But Leo, shouldn't an all powerful God have the power to create multiple selves and experiences? You make God seem like he's this weak thing because he can't create a real other human being, and this contradicts God's omnipotence. Like I said, God is you, a singular conscious entity. This entity at its highest level is one. It cannot be other than one. It can, however, multiply itself by subdividing itself. So through subdivision of itself it can fragment itself and create multiple selves, in a sense. But these multiple selves, you have to understand, from the highest perspective are always quasi or pseudo selves. They are relative partitions which will collapse, and they are being imagined and held within your mind as God. So God can dream all sorts of selves, including your human self that you're cosplaying as right now. God can do all that. But God can also stop doing that and realize that it's one and that it's you. [...] The contradiction would be if God could actually separate itself from itself permanently, because what you're asking for is like you're asking for you to be God here and then somebody else to be God over there, and both have to be all powerful and all knowing and all-seeing, but at the same time also separate from each other. That is what is contradictory and actually impossible.” So my takeaway from this is: there could only be one experience "at a time" because god is unlimited, and if there were other conscious experiences out there but my own right now, that would imply that god is limited.
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@Davino If other people can have a conscious experience while I have a conscious experience. Just to preface, I am NOT speaking about my egoic self as "I" and you as "other" and that we are seperate. I am speaking about "god" experiencing "my" existence and perspective right now only. And the same with you if you are reading this. Either 1. When I write this to you from the subjective perspective I am experiencing right now, no other people in this world are conscious or aware but me, and you are just part of my imagination. And that the only way you could have a conscious perspective and experience, was if I my perspective didnt exist right. And the same with you as well. If you are reading this, that means that I am not a conscious or aware being. or 2. We are everybody god, and the differentiation between us that we experience as egos, is just a cognitive process. But that it is possible for god to have experiences simountaneously at the same time. Everybody is awake and aware, but we are just fragmented bits of god. In other words, if god could only have experiences in a sequential matter og if god could have parallell experiences at the same time. And also. I know time dosent exist as well, but its just easier for me to explain it in linear terms.
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@Willy Phallicus I would just refer to the other answer I gave. The thing I am pondering about is the god has many eyes at the same time, but from Leo's video, it dosent seem that he agrees with that. There's One Consciousness and everything is mediated through it, whatever may or may not happen will be through it. Experiences are Infinite, there's no end and no beginning to what can be experienced. This question kinda circles back to the solipsism question. If you look at the other answer I gave that other people cant be conscious if you ar conscious yourself, then, if that is tru, what would happen if we got connected together, if that makes sense.
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Like I understand everything you are saying and I my post wasnt very nuanced. Sorry for not prefacing, but Im not some kind of noob. I have a lot of experience with meditation and many many many deep breakthrough doses on different psychedelics. When I am talking about "I", I am not referring to my ego. When I am talking about solipsism, Im not pointing to metaphysical or some philosophical solipsism. I am talking about the "absolute" solipsism Leo is talking about. He deleted the video, but I rewatched it from a reuploader. Have also read books etc. And the difference when I see people talk about solipsism on this forum compared to how Leo talks about it, it seems that there is a difference. And that is the differentiation I am trying to understand. I have read many posts about people talking about "we are all god experiencing ourselves through many eyes at the same time" so there is no distinction between me or you as god. We just play different characters. When I die, I can reincarnate as you and vice versa. BUT, in this view there are many experiences going on simountaneously. When i watched Leo's video, it seems to me at least, that he is VERY deliberate about not talking about other people being conscious at the same time. Very deliberate. He menstion in the end "from my perspective" very carefully. And it seems to me he does that not to confuse people. And my takeaway is that there is no other. There is no other consicous beings inside my reality. There is only "I" (not talking about ego), and there couldnt be anybody other. And when this body dies, I could reincarnate into another human being, but if I met the person I am today through another avatar, that would mean that I would not be consoius at that time from the perspective of the avatar I am in right now. Kinda hard to explain. But just that there aren't any other beings being consious if you are consious yourself.
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I have to say. To some extent, I agree with you on royals being really cringe. They are literally people with no merit who stands above laypeople and who are praised for no other reason than their bloodline. However, I am a scandinavian from Norway. Our king died yesterday. He was 89 years old. He has been loved, respected and highly looked up to by a strong majority of our population. He was known for being down to earth and approachable, taking part in public events and activities in a very natural way. King Harald has many times been a unifying figure for the Norwegian people. For example after the July 22 terror attacks in Norway. There have also been periods of strong debate and tension around immigration where he has addressed this in his speeches. The King has always tried to mediate and build bridges when there has been conflict and he has always been clear about him represented everyone. I do not feel that this has only been “for show,” but that it has actually served an important purpose and impact during difficult periods by helping bring people together. Also, it has been in good times as well when Norway went to the quraters in the Fifa World Cup. I think that one of the reasons Norway is such a good country to live in is that we are very homogenous people where people trust eachother. I am not saying that royals are the reason why, but it could be a contributiong factor, or at least at reminder of who we are as a people and where we are coming from. Today though, his son who us the heir, I can´t say the same. He seems a bit flat NPC with no charmisma or personality. His wife has been entangeled with Epstein and there was a big uproar when the e-mails was dropped which showed very inappropriate communication. At the same time, his step son was just in court for violence in his relationshipts, transporting drugs, raping 4 girls etc. That was a big stain. But anyways, do you think that royal families could serve a purpose or that its a bit more nuanced than just "its ridiculous"?
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Currently studying psychology. I have done a lot of therapy myself. I have been a bit flabbergasted by Elon and his behavior. My stance before his radicalization have always been that he has a been a good guy, with good values etc. But also a complicated guy with a dark history. It haven’t looked like he has been motivated by money. What he has done with Tesla and Spacex is incredible. He put every money into these companies at a bad period in the economy when there was a slim chance of success. For me this indicated that he cares more about the future of humanity than money and power; climate and existential threat more than money. From my therapy work with my own trauma, there is one of model that is used in emotional focused therapy (EFT) to understand the psychological defenses at work when going through trauma in childhood. It is something called trauma related disassociation. How this works is that your personality gets fragmented into «parts» that are in conflict with each other. Almost every people have this to some degree, but the most extreme cases you get a non integrated personality with several personalities. This diagnosis is called dissociated identity disorder. When people are going through trauma, they need to protect themselves from the difficult emotions they are experiencing. If one does not have competent parents who talk about or validate emotions, this can make things even worse. When it comes to trauma-related dissociation, there are primarily three parts (though there can be more depending on the situasjon) of thought patterns that is being integrated parts of the personality. First, there is a “well-functioning part”. This part is the "functional" part of the personality. The well-functioning part is often the most visible in daily life and maintains the functions necessary to navigate society. This part can have a good ability to function in work, school, and social life. Often, this is the part that people around the individual see, as it takes care of everyday tasks and relationships. The well-functioning part can also be the one that holds everything together and tries to maintain a sense of "normality." The "wounded child" is a part of the personality that carries the emotional and psychological pain from the traumatic experiences. This part may represent the child who experienced trauma and was unable to process or understand what happened at the time. When emotions are not processed and integrated, they remain as latent pockets emotional charged energy in the psyche that can be "triggered." The wounded child carries the pain, sorrow, fear, and helplessness from the trauma that is stored. The “control part” is often a part of the personality that takes on the responsibility of maintaining control over the difficult emotions of the wounded child. This part can function as a protection against emotional overwhelm when the feelings from the wounded child arise. The main goal of the control part is to prevent chaos, fear, and emotional suffering. It controls thoughts, actions, and feelings to prevent the traumatic experience from "breaking through" to the conscious experience. A brief example to illustrate how this structured gets created in childhood; a child has experienced trauma in the form of bullying in the schoolyard. The child may sit and cry during recess, holding onto painful emotions. When recess is over, it will be embarrassing to walk into class crying. Due to the social pressure, the control part steps in to "shut down" the wounded child. The internal dialogue from the control part might be, "Shut up," "You're so ugly," "You're so stupid," "What's wrong with you?" etc directed at the wounded child. The goal is to suppress the emotions to such an extent that the child can go back into class and pretend everything is normal. The optimal experience for a child in this situation would be to talk to another person to get an understanding of what has happened and process the emotions and experience (hence getting it integrated). The way I understand this model, and personality in general, is that personality is not a fixed defined thing that you are at any given moment, but rather an area that you move within. You are in a specific part of you personality at any given time based on the needs you have in the moment. What I find interesting and have that I have noticed in myself (before I worked on integrating these parts) is that my control part was antisocial and without empathy. During periods of my life when I was struggling, facing a lot of adversity, and feeling depressed (and had little access to my emotions – this is really important because empathy is a physical feeling in the body), I was mainly placed in my control part. I externalized the bad feelings I had onto others by for example being mean and committing vandalism. A big part of why I exhibited this behavior, I believe, is because I didn’t want to be alone with my own pain by inflicting pain on others. This is something I feel can be seen in all people who are somewhat antisocial and lacking in empathy. There may be moments or situations that trigger feelings of empathy and warmth in these people towards others. I think it is genuine and that most people that are bad have something good within them. When it comes to people with strong antisocial personality disorder or psychopathy – I believe these individuals are forever stuck in the control part and have little to no access to their emotions. So how does this relate to Elon Musk? As mentioned, I believe it's undeniable that this person is an extremely complicated individual. He has been pretty badly bullied throughout his childhood, and his father was violent. Additionally, he is autistic, which means he may have less empathy. I know this might sound extremely strange, but I believe that when Elon Musk started taking Ozempic, it could have had a significant impact on his psyche and demeanor. I personally took this medication a year ago and experienced an unbelievable amount of side effects. One thing Ozempic does is numb the feelings in the stomach and chest. You don’t just lose your sense of hunger, but also other emotions. And empathy is an emotion that resides in the body. I think it can numb this too. I noticed that when I was on Ozempic, my control part was much more prominent than usual. I know Elon Musk doesn't function well as a person in the companies he has started and that he has people around him with high emotional intelligence to hold things together. The person he has appeared as in the public eye has probably never been his entire persona. But there has been a very large shift in how he behaves. He goes against everything he has ever said before. I think it's highly likely that there is a factor within him that has changed him. And I believe Ozempic could be one of several possible factor in how he has changed. For me, the radical shift in the way Elon Musk behaves suggests that he is primarily placed in the control part of his psyche. He is on an neverending externalization trip against the left. I know this hypothesis is quite a stretch and probably very far-fetched. Maybe I'm hypermentalizing. But I still find these observations pretty interesting based on my own personal and clinical experience.
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Yep. And this is a very childish thing to say. He has been very childish for a long time. But have you never been childish yourself? Have you never done something that you have been embarrased about? I personally can do and say stupid things in the heat of the moment. Look at parenting for example. All parents do and say stupid shit to their children all the time which they instantly regret when they are stressed out and hot headed. When people get emotional, their mentalization goes right in the toilet.
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I think that this make more sense than the other point you were making. But if you look at past interviews of him, do you think that he had a more compassionate and modest demeanor? Do you think that he never was genuine or compassionate?
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I feel like this is a bit black and white thinking. Dont you think people can be good and bad at the same time? If he only cared about money, why would he start Tesla and Spacex, when these companies was doomed from the start? Look at all green companies going to shit with no profitable business plan other than funding. And when they started Spacex, they had literally no plan to make it profitable (hence why they started with Starlink). Dont you think that he had a vision for a better future for humanity? Musk could have made other technology companies which at the time had a lot higher likelyhood of success.
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To be honest, there is a lot of misconception about kids and sexual identity. I have worked with such children in training, and a lot of the misconception is based upon ignorance. Yes there are some children who question their sexual identity where it is a symptom of something else. Many of them grow out of it. Health personell rarely addresses it, but in some instances, where the feeling of incongruence between for example body and sexual identity is so extreme that the child is capable of comitting suicide, then they are acting upon it. Only the worst parents arent capable of accepting it. This stuff is real. Like racism, you need to get exposed to what you are ignorant to.
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Im thinking more about his motivation have shifted and gone into politics. He hates the left. One thing is to be annoyed by something, I can sometimes be frustrated with politics on either side, but there is another ting to act out and use energy doing something about. For example if a narcissist is has been hurt, that person would go above and beyond to destroy and harass the person who has responsible. A normal person wouldn´t care to use their energy on childish behavior and move on with their life and learn from the experience. Going so har against the left and their values have been of deep importance to him lately, and I think that comes from a shift in personality and motivations.
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Yup. I also think that is a big part of it. But at the same time, going with Trump, he goes against everything his core values with regards to climate change and "life mission" at Tesla. He also lacks empathy towards his daughter. With the model described, and where you are at, can radically change how you percieve and project reality.
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The Russian economy is in the toilet. If the pressure is kept up and the Russian society collapses, Russia could fold their hand. And it´s also principle. If we let Russia have it their way, they will just keep on going. The same with China, if they see a weak US, they could invade Taiwan.
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Yeah, I forgot to say that I was also was aware that I was perpetually creating existense. And if I remember correctly, I saw which chakra where it was starting. But it was really blurry. It was around 7 or 8 years ago. But after that day, I have never been afraid to die. I have tried 5-meo-dmt maybe 5 times. One time was close to breakthrough. But that was totally different. My body became light as a feather and extreme amounts of light energy was surging through my body. But as you say, 5-meo-dmt it a lot cleaner and not as much as a distant trip that is wavy.
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I have for the most part taken LSD in regards to psychedelics. I have had ego death and no mind many times before where I have not been able to distinguish myself from my surroundings and seen the mechanical workings of my ego, time standing still, feeling totally alone in the universe etc. But one of the first trips I took, I had this crazy trip on an beach at an abandoned island with my ex girlfriend that was just on another lever. At one point I had no sense of self or being a human. I was just being. Existence was fully organic. Everything was alive. I "asked" or my counsiousness was focused on; how is it possible that anything exist at all? The "answer" I was shown. was a fractal. Its really hard to explain but it existense itself was glaringly obvious, I felt stupid for not have been able to notice it before. Existence can exist because of X and the meaning of existence is because Y, and there could not be any other way. It was like a waterproof mathematical equation with infinite underlines under the answer. There was more to it but I cant remember clearly. It was just a perpeptual loop that went to infinity and would never stop. I felt an extreme love and connection with everything. I was in awe. It was like finally coming home from forgetting what I was and that suffering will not be forever. It was like meeting a estranged omniloving parent that I have been separated from all of my life. It was like breaking out from being tortured in a jail. Not trying to be pretentious here, but its the only way to describe it. Is what I experienved god realization?
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Trump administration is lost. Looking in the comment section on social media, a lot of Americans have this egocentric view thinking everybody around the world are dependent on the nation. If US withdraws from NATO, they need to close their military bases all around Europe and withdraw their troops. That is a big L.
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Problem with access with guns is that it just escalates any situation to an extreme. Just look at Kyle Rittenhouse. Its laughable. Walking around with weapons is like holding a lighted match near a barrell of gun powder.
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This is after cleaning it with a brush and soap. The black is non stick. I dont know, but I had a hard time getting stainless steel to work. But I am not a big fan of using to much fat in the pan.
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Yeah. I know people are saying that you arent supposed to wash it, but I clean my pan after every use. This picture is from a pretty heavy wok which is scratched off.
