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@Danioover9000 maybe a general one: you will throw all your political views out of the window once a higher force enters your system and convinces you the other way.

@Leo Gura so being a conservative is not necessary at all to become a Nazi.

@Leo Gura I give you an analogy from pickup scene Women have their moral, value, norms and rules they follow. Until they meet a giga chad and women will willingly throw all these away for him and adapt to his frame and ideology. It's not rational, it's not logical. Pure biology.That's exactly with Hitler and the Germans . Hitler was hypnotizing everyone, women closed to him began suicide if Hitler gave them not enough attention. Hitler was celebrated as a rockstar like no one in history, people worshipped him like a god. Without Hitler, Nazis never would arise this way. Almost Everyone was converted to a Nazi to a degree. Conservative, leftist doesn't matter. They all were proud to live in these times and blindly follow Hitlers command. He was seen as savior of Germany. Some Nazis surely would see him as savior of humankind. Saying it is necessary to be conservative to become a Nazi..you underestimate Hitler and his power over germans.

I see you are not working as a full time programmer. ChatGPT already reduces my coding time by 30%. It produces acceptable code. If you let it correct itself it writes as good as a senior developer. It's not far outside to think that AI will replace coding completely.

But then it's not a conservative person anymore but something new. Every normal guy can become a Nazi, you don't need to be conservative. I read your blog post again and even if I hang up on the word conservative and Nazi, the blog post has some good points especially with ChatGPT.

Tell then a social conservative that he should adapt to changing times. He should from now on erase his human weakness, throw out his morals, traditions and norms he values so much out of the window so he can kill more Jews and die on the battle in pure faith for a single man called Hitler. Will he then still be a conservative person?

I am a C# and angular full stack developer. I can see that AI will make coding obsolete, it's just a matter of time.so falling in love with a programming language is not good. It will be replaced one day through AI. Just grasp the fundamentals and on the rest AI will take care of.

Fair enough. But your big picture thinking could sometimes also include some more focus for details.

@Danioover9000 Yes. I didn't watched the video but read about Leos opinion and needed to address how wrong it is to even consider a Nazi as ultra conservativ. Even if there is a semantic spectrum around these categories, there is a foundational difference between a Nazi and an (ultra) conservative man. You cannot put a Nazi in this category.

@Leo Gura While the categorization of political movements can be influenced by perspective and semantics, recognizing the foundational differences in ideology, goals, and methods is key to a thorough understanding and discussion of these topics. Maybe that's the difference why Germany was so successful in philosophy,science and engineering compared to the rest of the world. We value precision and nuance in our native language when we talk about a topic.

I watched it. I thought Owen Cook is just ranting again and screaming around. Are there other good per Owen cook videos out there? I just watched randomly and rarely his videos touched my interest but this one is gold.

Yeah I want to distinguish them and hope others will do also. Even if there are pipelines, It's important to maintain clear distinctions between different ideologies. The Nazis were not conservatives in the traditional sense but represented a distinct, extremist form of far-right fascism.

@Leo Gura while it's possible to discuss varying degrees of conservatism and liberalism, placing Nazism within this framework as merely a more extreme form of conservatism oversimplifies and misrepresents both the ideology itself and the broader spectrum of conservative thought. The fundamental differences in principles, goals, and methods necessitate distinguishing between extreme right-wing fascism and conservatism, even at its most traditional or reactionary.

Because right-wing is a much broader term which can include conservative.However while the Nazis operated on the far-right of the political spectrum with its authoritarian and nationalist policies, its radicalism, totalitarianism, and racial ideology place it outside the bounds of traditional conservatism. It's essential to recognize these distinctions to understand the specific nature of Nazi ideology. That's what I try here to point out the whole time.

@Leo Gura Nazis do not fit into the categories of liberalism or conservatism. they can be accurately placed on the political spectrum as a far-right, authoritarian, and fascist ideology.

@Leo Gura yeah we disagree here completely then. Fine by that, I am german and know how my German ancestors think and lived. They were the opposite of conservatives and from studying Hitlers ideology and their actions it makes no sense to me to even consider Nazis as conservatives. But interesting to hear other views.

@Leo Gura I understood your point but Hitler and Nazi Germany were not the way you see it. Not at all! While the Nazis invoked traditional values to gain support, their ideology and practices were fundamentally revolutionary, aimed at radically transforming society in ways that are not aligned with conservative principles. Labeling the Nazis as "conservatives" overlooks the radical, totalitarian, and genocidal nature of their regime, which sought not just to conserve or return to a past state of affairs but to create something entirely new based on their ideological vision. Hitler doesnt even like conservatives. The Nazis' goal was not to restore the monarchy or strengthen conservative institutions but to create a totalitarian state. Conservatives initially mistrusted Hitler and the Nazi Party, seeing them as too radical and disruptive. Nazi goals were fundamentally at odds with conservative principles. Hitler was able to gain the support of some conservative elements in German society by playing on fears of communism and promising to restore national pride and strength. However, this support was often based on a pragmatic and temporary alignment of interests rather than a genuine shared ideology.

@Leo Gura You can say that many who initially supported or joined the Nazi party might have identified with conservative values. However, the Nazi ideology itself, as it unfolded, was far from conservative in the traditional sense. It sought radical transformation of society. This radicalism far exceeded any conservative inclination toward preserving existing social orders.

Nazis were way more radical than the most ultra conservative men. They wanted to build an entire new world based on biological principles and would readily sacrifice their own lifes for this new vision. Overall Nazis were too revolutionary, they have their own category on the political spectrum.

Yeah I can understand that you see that as weird, because you heard probably otherwise in these propaganda docus on YouTube. You know I am from Germany and am not so much influenced from propaganda like other nations about Hitler because I can understand Hitlers speeches directly without any historican in between who doesn't know german culture, doesn't understand German language and who needs to fulfill the victory story. To call Nazis as conservative is still wrong. They shared maybe some goals with conservative like national union and restoration of german military however conservatists try normally to preserve existing social institutions, values and norms. Hitler wiped out these completely out of the window. Hitler brought a real revolutionary change in Germany society. If Nazis were just conservative, not so much would change.

@Leo Gura It's not accurate to reduce the complex dynamics of Nazi appeal and enmity to simple contemporary political labels like "conservatives" and "liberals." The Nazis drew support from various segments of German society at the time, especially the intellectual elite, scientists. They all were 100% in it.

here is the video, this is not a past life: he thought the trip was over and he continued his mediocre life until he got 75 years old and he died from colon camcer which he describes in great detail but he was still tripping the whole time! it was a normal life for 50 years.

@Ishanga no that's not past life's. There was one guy who smoked DMT and experienced a lifetime in his body in same time he lives. During these 30years (?)there was no development in technology. iPhone was always an iPhone. he married and had children.then smoked as 80 years old DMT and then switched back to his original self. (I don't remember exactly so some details could be wrong) It was posted here on this forum.

@Ishanga Yoga is a broad term here in the West and just means wellness/health/fitness to most people here. Some western yoga courses can have a spiritual touch but nothing serious. I don't mean isha yoga at all by that.To make it clear I edited my post and called it western yoga, extra for you my friend.

That's exactly what I said before in my comments which you called crap. Please read more carefully and nuanced and don't fall into yoga dogma so quickly.