OBEler

@Telepresent no thats wrong. Jed McKenna wrote: "one in ten thousand take to the idea and one in ten thousand of those actually make it, meaning one in a hundred million." Besides that, you are saying one of 10.000.000.000 is enlightened. So going after your statement, no one on this earth would be enlightened right now, there are less than 10.000.000.000 people living on this earth

So Jed McKennas is forecasting, that one under 10.000 people, who are on the path, is enlightened. Lets assume Jed McKennas prognosis is right. Therefore there is a high probability, that someone here in this forum must be fully enlightened. Nevertheless the probability is very low, that this enlightened person reads this thread

How would this retreat environment look like at home? When I need to buy food in the supermarket, would this destroy my retreat? I also plan a retreat at home. I dont like it to wake up so early in the mornig when I would go to a real retreat. furthermore I lke to have everything under my control. At home I have more control than on a retreat I think.

a strange looking guy tries to dance with the wind in the exact rhythm. look how many times he points to total wrong direction, If you are a naive and blind person you will not see this. Be openminded that this could be just fake. Be critical! This is a shame for all the real paranormal phenomena occuring right now in this world

Total fake. They just know when the wind blows and then make their special moves. Normally wind comes in waves, so first you hear a silent voice of the wind, then you know to start your movements until the wind reaches the highes blow, then you stop your movements

Debbie, I think you are very young (20 years?). I can see that how you write and how you think. Please dont be affronted by this, I also was very young and blended. Travelling around the world will get you many life experiences, but if you really want to grow there are much better ways, like the topic of this thread. Here we dont talk about some funny travelling experiences where you can post nice pictures on your instagram account and feeling special. It gets much deeper, believe me. And that might sound crazy for you but sitting at home the whole week alone and meditating can make you much faster grow than a trip to barcelona with your best friends.

"And I doubt that you'll produce any non-endogenous substance just because your astral body took some" Who do you mean actually by "you"? the astral body is not a biological body. It doesnt produce anything. I can take substances like food and alcohol and you get nearly the same experience like the human body. You get the same sensations for a short period of time, as long as you are conscious as what you are doing in astral realm.

@stevegan928 I made many tests with other substances in astral projection (alcohol, food). It sounds crazy, but believe me: consuming things in astral projection get very very real (but you need an experience of the substance first so your brain can repeatedly activate it). Therefore I believe it should work. But first I need to test some low psychedelics and then go to 5-meo-dmt. Step by step. I am doing a lot of research now how to do this, thanks to @Azrael on this point.

@Leo Gura I completely agree with you. It costs a lot of time. Nevertheless, I plan to use OBEs for spiritual enlightment work. I want the shortcut of the shortcut for spiritual enlightment: I want to use 5-meo-dmt every night in OBE. But first I need the experience of 5-meo, otherwise my brain will not activate this experience during OBE.

It lies in your conscious awareness, your clear thinking in your head. When I am in astral projection, I know exactly what happens. I see everything crystal clear and everytime this happens, it is absolutely amazing - even after 1000 times. Astral projection is not lucid dreaming. Big difference! But you can start from lucid dreaming to astral projection and analog an astral projection can lead to lucid dreaming. You just know in which phenomena you are right now. There is absolutely no mistake. On which situation did you have your samadhi? During meditation? I am very interested in this experience

@Cetus56. On which exact occasion did you have this experience? I dont think you can name it astral projection, because in astral projection your awareness is quietly the same as during mundane day. The only difference: your awareness is more like an observer. @Soulbass, forget about "myBigToe", I read this book after many years of astral projection experience. Its very long and difficult to read. Here you will find nothing which can help you to archieve astral projection. Google for "SOBT astral projection". Give me a message if you have problem with this technic.

good, try to relax as much as possible when vibrations arise. Dont move until the vibrations pass. then try to go out of your body I have many years experience in astral projection. My advice: keep on until astral projection will be a routine like taking a shower. Then you get the most out of it

But how can the seller reveal its purity? I mean, the seller can tell me everything but how do I really know that this is highest quality and I can trust them? Are there some good indicators?

A human being is part of the whole, called by us “universe,” limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest – a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a prison, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons close to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from our prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all humanity and the whole of nature in its beauty. Albert Einstein

I am just curious, I don't know which of your statements are based on real experiences. As I said I have the same sensations you described many times during the day. I see also things differently now after 1,5 years of meditation, I am more interested in everything I see - but not all the time, I need to be present for the moment. The nature, which was always boring for me becomes magic. Thats all nice, but I never had this infinite presence. So I was thinking this only can happen to someone who has already an awakening experience at least. But you describe it as a slow infiltrating process, thats interesting

"The core of my being is a non physical infinite presence which displays everything that is perceived by the body/mind" Is this what you really experienced? Or just "your" idea which comes in your head because you read a lot of stuff about spirituality? Do you really know what this means? Not just intellectually You just talked about some prickling Feeling combined with some goosebumps before. Doesnt sound like an awakening experience at all

Before you begin to write your book, did you try 5 meo dmt? You talk about this drug like as you had many experience with it. But I think the reality is, that you never tried it out and you are too fearfull to try it in your lifetime. Instead of accepting this fear you try to explain it to yourseves with silly reasons. For me it seems you absorbed a lot of knowledge about spiritual stuff but no true insights at all.

Ok I also heard this, but what would be the alternative to research chemical companies? Going to a drugdealer seems to me more risky or are there other shops besides research chemical companies which provide more safety?

@ Psychonaut, are you from europe (germany?) and do you think you can buy 5-meo from RC shops safety? Thanks for the reply!

Hey this is my first post, I am also german and Wendelin what you describe is exactly happenig to me: "This triggered a prickling Feeling starting in my head and shivering down my spine combined with some goosebumps" I have this always after one great meditation session, maybe 3-10 times during the day for several weeks whenever I come to the present or think about some enlightment stuff. I had no enlightment-experience. I just had tears in my eyes in this one great meditation session and I even dont know why. It just started to happen. Does anybody know what this means? Now I rarely have these prickling Feeling, but I am in a stressfull time right now