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I think you can get very deep insights from analyzing this special case. It looks like the end of scorn comes to reality here. Also interesting to see, they sometimes speak together

@longusername12345 I read a book about a 5 meo facilitator who observe that young and old people have it way more easier with 5 meo. Maybe because you can let go more easy because you r not as attached to your ego in young age.

@BlurryBoi psychedelics ca help with your issue. but be careful of dosing. small steps! start with light psychedelics like mushrooms, allad or lsd (75 micro)

@newbee Yeah. If you dont find on internet any claims against Martin Ball, that doesn't mean that there are still some out there being raped by him. GOOD CONCLUSION. So the difference between us is, that I dont want to make assumptions against a Person out of thin air. It's a waste of time. I rely on facts alone and the facts are that Martin Ball helped thousands of people with his style and no one complains on the internet right now. If you find it disgusting what he does and dont understand anything about this energy work then fine. But dont give someone fault for something you just assume. Your assumptions could be deeply wrong.

@Dorje Chang I agree with you that this is not the best Image he presents talking about provocating stuff on 5 meo sessions. On the other hand he is a Pioneer in this field and he shared his raw knowledge and you can give respect to that. There is something about vomitting, you feel unbelievable great after a vomit on 5 meo. Without knowing Martin ball, I know someone who wants to vomit on 5 meo and feels great after doing this. So Martin ball is not making this up.

I dont deny there can be an abuse of Power during such sessions. But throw this claim to Martin Ball, there should be at least one Solid proof out there. Some people WANT to be touched on their genitals, be pissed or vomited on whatever. When it happens in consensus between two adults (before, while and after taking 5 meo), then whats wrong about this. You just make assumptions that no one were in consensus with this. Then please Name these Persons

@newbee Dude, you are the one who should give proof. Because you make a strong claim against Martin Ball. Did you asked any of his clients? How Do you come to this idea? You just assume that it were without consensus. I did my research. Look also in this video There is no case that anything happened against their will. They knew exactly before the psychedelic experience what can happen and if it is ok. Martin ball makes no secret of it, everyone knows what they get into. So next time you blame someone about things you have no idea of, do at least some research before spreading your wild assumptions.

@newbee @khalifavomitingon@khalifavomitingon Vomiting on clients, playing with genitals or whatever sounds crazy for normal people with zero understanding about energy work. Martin ball is an expert on this field and a Pioneer. He did this with his clients in total consens and they were thankful to him resolving their trauma with this special practise. Everyone knows what they get into. You have no idea what you are talking about, as your name already says

@julienw you never had a breakthrough on 5 meo, thats for sure. Similar insights do not only come from 5 meo but all around human history, Religion, spiritual practices. Even before 5 meo existed

Maybe optional: Dont eat any diary products before. If you have a shit it should be not fluid and diary products make it fluid. Your shit should have normal consistence. So the probanility is higher that nothing is left in your intestine

@Verg0 your plugging technique may be wrong. Maximum absorption is 4 to 5 cm Please Look for Boofing technique andbuy syringe where no rest can häng in there Fast 3 hours before, have a shit before

I total agree. These were all raw and special. I hope Leo gives Updates on his Blog about his newest multiple awakenings

@Flowerfaeiry if you microdose often, can then also a normal dose in between loose it's magic ? What does it mean loosing it's magic? Less effects or are you so adapted to higher states that it becomes normal and not magical anymore?

@JosephKnecht how Do you define consensus reality. Maybe human beings on earth live in their little distorted bubble and the real consensus reality is between universal conscious entitys with god like power communicating and sharing with each other their unlimited creativity and love for eternity

@Batman you have some good points. But dont dismiss it just as an temporary experience. Your mind/body changes after the experience. You can see that in an MRT scan.

@FourCrossedWands this is just intellectual understanding and has nothing to do with the non dual experience

@Realms of Wonder but you would be so conscious that you recognize if it hinders your day to day life.Thats not a danger at all

@kray yep, this is a very good war movie

@Jake Chambers Dude relax, no one outside of this forum/his Youtube channel gives a shit if Leo transforms into an alien. No one. I think you spend too much on actualized.org and should see the outside world

@Emrie Thanks for the news!! shroom boom is coming

@Bando I dont have this impression. For his age he seems very mature and confident. Just asking this question has nothing to do with unsure about yourself.

@machinegun lsd, shrooms could really help you reducing your ego.

@Jannes it's not my bias, I read over hundrets of microdosing reports so far. Addiction never was an Issue. Just because something helps you a ton, doesnt mean there is a higher chance you get addicted to it. My car helps me a ton an I use it ever day. Still not addicted to it. It's just a Tool and so is microdosing. What microdosing schedule are you doing?

@Jannes I never heard on any report that someone got addicted to microdosing psychedelica. I would not worry about a psychological Addiction at all. It's like someone is worried that he gets psychological addicted to toothpaste because he uses it every day and it helps him so much for his tooths.

It starts at 25.00, she claims not taking any drugs at all The comment section is also interesting with others experience similar things (transform to reptile) Just want to share this, thinking about leo's shapeshifting to an alien. Maybe he only can do this from person to person