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@theleelajoker "Deeply knowing" what's going is probably a feeling, an intuition as you describe it." No not a feeling, not an intuition. It's something like that what you described. A recognition.

@TheEnigma this is too vague. I know many cases where psychedelics are very helpful in that situation. And rare cases where not. But it depends so much on the personality and so on. You need also some intelligence.

Chatgpt4 knows. Psychedelics raise consciousness by disabling your brain’s usual filters, increasing neural complexity, and revealing the deeper structure of mind and reality.

@Razard86 with the help of Chatgpt4 I answer to you. Please read exactly where the issue ist. Please stay open minded, don't skip with your head. I try to tell you something . I hope with Chatgpt4 you understand my position finally: I see where you're coming from. You're speaking from a radical nondual solipsistic paradigm where only direct experience exists, and everything else is imagination. I get that – and I respect the inner logic of it. But here’s the thing: just because something is not within my current experience doesn't logically imply it cannot exist. That would be conflating epistemology with ontology. You're saying: “If you can't confirm it, it's just a belief.” True – I can't confirm it. But not being able to confirm something doesn't mean it's false or non-existent. It simply means: I don't know. I prefer to stay in that space of radical not-knowing rather than collapsing everything into the assumption that I am the only reality. That, too, is just a belief – unless proven. I'm not denying the possibility that I am the only God and you are not conscious only my perspective exists. But I’m open to the possibility that other Gods might exist too – just outside the reach of my current conscious dream (by the way Leo did that too, I don't know his actual view on that). So the difference is: I don’t claim it must be true. I hold open the mystery. You close the mystery with total certainty.

@Mmartinez28 I think you misunderstand the whole thing. We are right now discussing his insights and our own. What exactly does it matter if we discuss insights he didn't have in this one video listed. That video was years ago. It's not actual. Also you should not see his insights as fixed they can change.

@theleelajoker my definition of awake is deeply knowing what's going on right here right now on an existential level. With that I don't mean of course how much bliss you have. Just knowing what's true right now. It's a deep recognition. It's way more than being in the now no last no future etc. Way more deeper.

@Mmartinez28 I don't understand what you mean. He posted a video about primary insights in the many facets of awakening enlightenment video. Then after that he had some new profound awakenings with new primary insights. They are then not in the list of his old video. Now you say his old video is the state of the art and he cannot have new primary insights after that? I don't understand you.

@Ishanga @theleelajoker I use drastically words to show you how far away your understanding from awakening really is. It's not even drastically enough because you still don't get it. Yes I am not total awake but pretty much on another level. How I know that? Because I was on your level too, before I used psychedelics. Psychedelics kicked me out of low level spirituality. Yoga could do that too. But it was psychedelics in my case. No awakening is not about bliss. Bliss comes as a side effect or not at all. Stay natural but you will probably not get far if you are not talented. Yes psychedelic experiences fade away and you get back to almost normal but you experienced states of consciousness way deeper than you can imagine and you will not forget that deep inside you. It's like saying I don't want to visit the moon,why? it's just a temporary fading experience and after visiting the moon I am back on earth. The truth is, you will be forever changed if your consciousness level is intelligent enough. By the way I am not telling here that psychedelics are better than natural practices. It's just that some "naturals" here who are just blind and ignorant dismiss the value psychedelics can offer.

@Razard86 how about multiple experiences. Experiences outside of me which I cannot experience. Just because I cannot experience them doesn't mean it cannot exist. It will never exist in my experience because then it's my experience I get that. But from a meta view there can be an experience outside my experience. It's not that simple but on your first 4 points I think everyone here agrees and understands that.

@Leo Gura So you remain open to the possibility that, within your imagined field, there could emerge beings who possess their own conscious field like you—just beyond your reality, yet synchronized with it by God's will? @Xonas Pitfall

@Ishanga you have a very shallow definition of being awake. I don't want to dismiss the state you describe it's very powerful compared being an unconscious human watching tv. It's just that that what you describe is absolutely beginner low level spirituality. You can reach that with some years of meditation. Just being in the moment is definitely not what it means here for "being awake". 5 Meo DMT " being awake" would completely nuke your blissful now experience.

@stephenkettley great question. Keeping your brain sharp and young is probably one of the most important things you can do for your health and life.

We still can't test it yet, no demo. Maybe in a year . But other companies have similar technology but not so impressive.

Sadghuru shambhavi mahamudra. You can learn it in Isha Programm "inner engineering total". For me that was a game changer to this day. You can hate sadghuru but he knows how to design a perfect yoga exercise for you to wake you up. On the initiation phase about 20% got immediately a mystical experience. One got even a Kundalini awakening. It's so powerful!

@Leo Gura It could be the most rewarding experience to do proper kechari mudra but you need to put a lot of effort first in it.

@Razard86 I thank you for your work here on this forum to make people more conscious. This thread is gold and a great help.

@Xonas Pitfall yes with the help of Chatgpt4 Leos ideas on very deep and difficult topics like Solipsim become very understandable and there would be not so much confusion left in this forum. I hope Leo by writing your book you get the help of AI as much as possible. AI is too good in that.

@Xonas Pitfall I recognized this contradiction and edited my message on previous post please read again for clarification .

@Xonas Pitfall with the help of Chatgpt4 about Leo Infinity of gods: God is so infinitely powerful that it can imagine itself as being absolutely separate from itself — infinitely many times — and each imagined "version" becomes totally real within itself. Each “God” is an absolute sentient bubble of awareness that imagines itself as fully isolated.That isolation is an illusion — but a perfect one. So perfect that each God becomes a total Sovereign Infinity. Infinite Gods exist, each believing they are the only one — and each is absolutely right within their own reality.The boundary is imaginary, self-created.The sovereignty is total, but only within a self-contained dream.Infinity allows for infinite mutually exclusive realities — all true within themselves, all part of the One. You can’t meet another sentient God as an “other”.Each sentient God is its own bubble of Infinity. That bubble contains everything it will ever experience — including “others,” but only as its own projections. In your reality, there are no truly independent sentient beings.Only you, dreaming sentient others into being.And in their reality, the same is true — but you'll never be in that one, unless you become it. Two Gods could dream each other simultaneously in a shared scenario.But even then, each one is actually dreaming the whole thing from its own side.There's no actual overlap — only parallel, perfectly synchronized solipsistic dreams. But you’ll never access another God’s internal sentience — only what you imagine it to be. Shared dream is possible — but it’s voluntary.Principle Explanation: Sovereignty Each God can dream alone, totally freely. Union Requires both to willingly align their dream content. Love The force that motivates God to limit itself for communion. Synchronization Happens through co-imagining the same reality — not through shared space, but through shared intent. @Leo Gura I hope this is congruent to your infinity of God video.

@Xonas Pitfall God has no other in his infinity bubble. There is no real definition of god. It's human language to describe God, don't hang up on human word games.

@Razard86 lol has someone ever did that, stealing someone else's body while he trips on Salvia?

@Xonas Pitfall "anything outside or unknowable/unreachable to God invalidates its very definition." No. You are god. You can reach to other gods outside of you because you are god. Thats what Leo did in his infinity of god video. Watch again. in the end it leads to not knowing. You don't know and can't ever know because everything outside yourself which you contact becomes you. So there is never be an outside for you but from Meta perspective it can and logically must exist other gods like you. Complete in their own reality. And it makes sense. For example you are a trip sitter and your imaginary friend trips on salvia. He is a god in his own reality. He creates another life and is completely disconnected to your world. He is a god in his own reality. You just watch him doing autonom movements until he comes back to this shares dream. His consciousness had the power to create time and space and own world completely Independent and disconnected from this dream world.

I can just say that this forum gave me the most value of all the things I do and I do a lot of things outside of actualized. But this forum got slow lately, it's not so easy to skip through topics. What happened.