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There isn’t even ‘visual aspect of consciousness’. That is also ‘made out of consciousness’ (and thus not an “aspect”). There aren’t “people” “assuming” anything. There is nothing “made out of consciousness”. Just consciousness. And not even.

@Daniel347 Yes but it is the same as with alcohol. The addiction isn’t technically to the substance, but to not feeling what’s suppressed, which the substance helps keep suppressed. When people have breakdowns / breakthroughs, notice it’s an expressing / expression, through and releasing, what was believed, about themself. It is the letting go of whatever that is / was, via expression. The addiction is to this experience over that experience. The this or that ‘factor’ or belief, is released. Inevitably there is the whole of experience, and not this or that unique experience.

@Persipnei Beautiful. Whenever sensible, just let it out. When talking in front of people, just pause for a few seconds. We all love that pause, it’s ok. We all feel it too.

Yes ? It seems like there’s a God until “you” check. That there is not is the punchline.

Framing as a 3 step process… step 1 is beliefs coming to the surface. Step 2 is recognizing a belief is just a belief, a repeated thought. Step 3 is letting it go because it isn’t true, it’s a belief, a repeated thought. What’s focused on (or not) is actually a thought, a belief. Not something that is true. There’s no suggestion here of ‘focusing on what you do not know’, but rather recognizing what’s already being focused on (the thought / belief) isn’t actually known. It’s a belief, that that is known & true, but it’s not known or true, it’s believed. That creates an only apparent in thought (a belief) separation. “The ‘knower & the known’.” But the knower is already the known. Not two. (Nonduality). There is, absolutely literally no one who actually knows, anything. The ‘substance’ of reality, consciousness, is literally Not Knowingness. Consciousness is infinite. There is no “other thing” which could possibly actually be known. There is the apparent and often believed thought that something is known about consciousness, but there is no separate or finite entity which knows it. Which actually exists, or knows anything whatsoever. That is thought attachment. Ignorance / bamboozlement. When not knowing seems to experience people knowing this or that, the actuality of that experience is not knowing believing it’s a person, and that as that person it “knows stuff about infinity, or consciousness”. “It” doesn’t. That is thought attachment. “A materialist”, if you will. Has pride & arrogance in this place gone completely unnoticed? Employ the ‘3 step process’.

Would’ve been sweet to have Bob Seeker as a high school guidance counselor.

@Hello world Thank you my friend. If what I said was to lofty, the watered down version is… you are feeling the way you are due to how you’re looking at things. I know it’s very convincing that it’s because of the things. But, to see if this is accurate, change how you’re looking at things even in the slightest, simplest most subtle ways, and notice how it feels. Also, there are suicide prevention experts available who are trained to help. http://www.suicide.org/hotlines/international-suicide-hotlines.html They are not only specifically trained in prevention, by helping bring clarity and relief to where you’re at. Much love, wishing you the best.

@Virgo That’s awesome. This presence is just this presence. It’s not someone’s. It’s not a state. It requires no will. It’s you. Notice, no matter what’s happnin - what never changes, never comes or goes, is the presence of, you. It wasn’t ‘yesterday’, that’s a thought. It’s now, it’s you.

Nobody really knows what’s good and bad. Some refrain from judging anything as bad simply because it doesn’t feel good to them when they do it. Some are soon to notice this and join in that joy. Hating somebody else, while obviously not ideal as it feels terrible, at least has some plausibility to it. Hating yourself is a state of confusion which is remedied by the simple recognition there are not two of you, you are already yourself. You are the very self with which these thoughts of judgment and hating are not resonating with. That suffering is the evidence of your goodness. Thoughts like that do not feel good to you, precisely because the truth is you are good. Those thoughts don’t feel good, because good is literally all there is. When we judge it doesn’t create actual bad, it just creates suffering for the one judging. Maybe you have went about life in a resistant way. Maybe it’s time to discover the magic of letting discordant thoughts go. Also, nobody really knows what anybody else thinks. One only knows what One thinks and believes, other people think. Even to say don’t care what other people think would be going to far, as there is never any actual experience of what other people think. Life is free-flowing and abundant and can change at any time. Life does not seem spontaneous when we claim it as mine, and believe thoughts as if we know what it is. It is humbling and most relieving to not know. If I was in your shoes I would employ every resource available. Trying things, experiencing things, and not just thinking we know what they are before actually trying and experiencing them is very key. Take this video for example. The title seems like you would think you know what it’s about, but watch it. Spend that four minutes and 55 seconds and your well-being. There is so much love for you here. Don’t let go of what’s possible, let go of limiting, separative thoughts that don’t feel good to you. It is because you are so you deeply and dearly loved that those thoughts don’t feel true.

@gettoefl Was that a Meatloaf truth bomb? ? thought for sure that song was about anilingus. Weird. @Bob Seeker The answer is in how the inquiry was proposed. There isn’t “the ego “, or “an ego “, there are thoughts appearing about me being separate. Because the ego is actually only that activity of thought, meditation is the The Way to Me.

In a way the ego is the believing of the thoughts that there is a voices and an in and a your head, but no mind is a most a literal pointer what can’t be thunk. A literal blissful perfect peace. Literal as in if you put an electrode skull cap on there would be no activity or waves on the screen. You would be literally seeing that nothing is happening. There is no thought or thinking which is a substitute for meditation.

To pursue some thing is to know what it is you’re pursuing, and how to go about attaining it . What if enlightenment is not knowing? In that case the implication would be you thought you had something because you thought you knew what it was, but never actually did. In that case liberation would be the not knowing, or, the letting go of what seems to be known, and not technically of anything which could be said to be attained. One could deliberate not knowing.

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@Atb210201 I was at an entheogen day and trippers were holding protest signs of humor. One said “this is the last straw! “, and the stick of the sign was made out of a big straw. I thought wow that’s pretty funny. Then I saw the guy holding the sign that said “debunk spirituality “. And I thought well goddamnit that’s it right there.

The something which is better than red pill is anything other than red pill. Don’t compare to move, let red pill go from mind & mouth. Then something else can, and indeed will, be.

@Hello world It’s as if you are vacuuming the floor everyday, but not noticing the vacuum isn’t plugged in. You can do that, but you can’t expect there to be change in that floor when you do. Experiencing everything you desire to is realistic & possible for you, and is the result of the relationship between you and you so to speak. First thing every morning… plug in. The electricity is not as interested in what was, or even what is, but in what can & will be. You say what will be so and by God it is.

Excited for ya. Might be a nugget or two which sparks a thing or two in here…

‘Layered on top of each other’ is one appearing thought.

Ok. ‘This is all fucking unreal!’ doesn’t resonate in the way you hold it / mean it. Don’t be quick to suppress feeling with the label ‘fear’, as if you know what it is. This isn’t a quickdraw shootout situation. Be open minded & humble, relax, breathe consciously from the stomach and see what it is. Don’t write it off. No name calling. No judging. At the very least we could say it might be guidance telling you what is real. Telling you about that thought. Relaxing the body and breathing from the stomach consciously, as in putting attention there instead of on the discordant thought makes all the difference. Then the mind relaxes. Holsters, if you will. ‘The one who is scared’ is the other thought which does not resonate. That too is a label. An assumption, based on having shot first already. A movement in thought from ‘there is fear’, to ‘there is one who is scared’. Both just discordant thoughts. It’s hard to hear, but stop venting, for you, for your well being. It keeps the cycle going. It’s the perpetuating of a story & a character mindset that you no longer desire to tell & play. Expedite by the light of awareness. Don’t shoot the messenger. ?? Let that story go, stop telling it, and you will no longer experience that apprehension. That also is a labeling over feeling, guidance, telling you about that thought about yourself. It seems like that’s true and doesn’t feel good because it’s true. But it doesn’t feel good because it isn’t true. The more you put feeling first the better your mental health is. Idc what Doc Holiday says, there’s a lot of truth in that. Address the nervousness directly. Completely eradicate it by reaching for a better thought whenever you feel discord. Don’t go to the bigger story of you and fear, notice the discordant thoughts. Go to the stomach breathing and relaxing swiftly, instantly. Practice that anywhere, anytime, so it becomes second nature. Put the attention on feeling breathing in the stomach, and thus attention is not on the thought. Then there can be clarity around that thought, and how it feels. Breathe in the clarity, breathe out the labels. Slow it all down. There isn’t a ‘variety of fears out there’, there’s just the one label, “fear”, being utilized. If you will.

@Holygrail Awesome. Symbols being freed up plays a role down the road.

When a bad trip is viewed as a good trip a goldmine of truth nuggets opens.

@caelanb Once someone has actually grokked quantum mechanics there is neither someone nor quantum mechanics.

If psychedelics had a history this wouldn’t be nearly as funny.

@Holygrail Seemingly contrary to popular belief perhaps, it is not possible to think perception. There is simply no such thing as red. There is the thought “red”, as a label, which was learned & can be relinquished (no longer believed / attached to) anytime. “Do not try and bend the spoon, that’s impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth … There is no spoon. Then you’ll see that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.”

@JoshuaBell This is aversion of feeling. It’s focusing on existential rumination as a way of not focusing on the challenges of life. The yet understood emotions you’re experiencing have nothing to do with the existentialism you’re believing they do. They have to do with the life you’re experiencing, how you’re interpreting it, how you’re conducting yourself in relationships, etc, and the choices you’re making. Slow things (thoughts) down with a daily morning grounding practice, before the mind starts rushing. Don’t try to ‘figure things out’ in thought. Play it cool, relax, ground, allow insights to naturally rise. The more relaxed and focused on being where you are, presence, the more insights arise. The savior is your own expressing of how you feel, and thus more & more understanding of that. Not thinking. That any thought is true, is just another thought. Relax the body & mind instead and enjoy now as it is. From there, contentment, the undesirable thoughts and visions of your future will begin to naturally be more positive and feel better. Instead of thinking… schedule & go experience some stuff that is healing oriented, connective (not just more thinking). If the ‘leaching’, ‘fucking everything up anyways’, ‘self deception’, etc, etc doesn’t resonate… notice therefore, that’s just not how you naturally think. Feel the relief in that. Let every one else think the way they think. You be you. That is always, always, always enough - allow it to be. Make a dreamboard. Allow your spirituality to complement your life, not be some kind of problem.