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@Peace and Love sorry to hear that. so terrible. tm will be an enormous facing of that pain most likely. its a solid path to love but man she's gonna potentially go through hell. maybe a mild pill of some sort would help take the edge off so she can progress?

@Laputan Machine if u mean saturation as in hue or color, i've experienced successions of multiple saturation losses down to a literal visual black and white. we make of that we will. i don't think it is worrysome, i think it's a visual representation of a minimization of conceptualization. maybe you're a very conceptual thinker and becoming a quality meditator. or go to the optometrist.

@John Iverson you are the One

@Deep interesting perspective. I have experienced there is no separation. I am experiencing reality is love. One, alone. I am always alone. I appreciate your input and the variety of perspectives and experiences. I don't see it as impossible to pin down. I see it like a flashlight that try's for a long time to resolve just where the light is coming from, and then laughs, like flashlights do, when it has looked everywhere and then accepts that it is the light. More literally speaking, me and you are the same love, shining through a couple dudes, having a couple experiences. What has helped me?.... love, lots of 'other' people, reading physics, quantum physics, thermodynamics, neurology, biology, meditation, excercise, vegan, laughing, allowing, appreciating, giving myself away completely every chance I get through parenting, singing, running...in general, I feel best if I just collapse at the end of everyday, if I give everything. Also shrooms helped. Lol. You rock deep.

@Socrates people use words like consciousness, unified field, God, One etc. The One ( just a word) keeps it real though and doesn't think or use words. it just chills in the isness. i have no idea what im saying.

@Peace and Love all accurate info. im wondering if you are new to meditation...? TM is an organized method with a personal instuctor. imo, it's ideal for someone who is "too busy" to get started with meditation, or who wants the efficiency and speed that can come from personal lessons. the catch is the price, but investing in one's self is usually a good spend. Above all though, yeah, do it to support your friend. You may discover this is how the universe is getting you there.

@Gertsh I have experienced shrooms with a fair number of people. Just from my experience, I think either those shrooms had some imperfection going on, or, you are holding on too much to "reality". I've seen a couple people have bad trips and I think it was because they didn't have the proper foundation in place before the trip. This is highly subjective but my "proper foundation" is 99% vegan eating, daily meditation, daily excercise, and creative activities as often as possible. Writing, song writing, playing with my kids, painting with them, dancing, etc. Anything creative and non-adult-serious. Oh ya, and always 'letting that shit go'. On the shroom note, and I'm not trying to sell a concept or anything, but, man..you're 3g's in and my exit from "reality" started at 5g and 'completed' at 8g's. Again, not trying to pitch the idea, just from utter compassion, you're so close to what for me, was the only total game changing experience of my "life". On the more practical side, I have experienced many very specific diets through out my life and I find clarity and peace of mind are (roughly) 99% food related and 1% whatever else. In the sense that, when I ate bread, sugar, meat, pasta, etc - I couldn't even see any sense to someone telling me about reality. I was "good". Nowadays I wake up with clarity and joy to the tun that I just start laughing, or joy crying. I mean, when I stop and look at it, my body & brain and thoughts are made out of food. If I pissed in my gas tank my truck is not going to have much clarity. It could also be a reserved psychological issue or trauma, but still, there's no clarity to let that shit go if one is eating the stuff many companies claim is "food". *Disclaimer: this is sensitive person shit. I'm crazy. Don't give me credibility. Don't believe me. I don't mean any offense, Experience it.

Great stuff. Thanks for sharing!

@Ilya you do stuff. It's simple, just like that. Do nothing for long enough, and then you do stuff. You are doing you seeking You, right now. It's hilarious, I think.

@Harikrishnan maybe it's more of a riddle i guess. Why would they think what they were doing was so funny?

@John Iverson You serious Clark? You gotta watch the Matrix. It'll only change your life.

@John Iverson There is no Indiana Jones without the temple, no Luke without the dark side, no Morpheus without the matrix, no Jesus without oppression, no Buddha without suffering. Try to welcome it, because it is the experience that allows you, to make you. What are you anyways? Some hack? Some chicken shit pussy pants??? I don't think so. I think you're some kind of Neo, who today, thinks he is merely Thomas Anderson.

@Deep that's the whole joke.

@The White Belt The point, ultimately, is to see the truth and thus be the 'light'. You can shit on people everyday. You can steal from and manipulate people easily. But then, you'll have much more you'll need to let go of. It's just simpler and easier to remain empty.

@Deep Did you ever hear that joke about the guy seeking God, and the other guy doing self inquiry? Well, they thought it was very funny.

@Wes Thoughts I was initially shocked to find that the same day goes on with or without thinking. Give it a try.

@How to be wise Dude. Just forget it on get on with your life. You'll never know what you are. There's nothing wrong with a normal life.

@Dodo You are creating the whole thing, now. There is no person/thing/event, that is other-than You. It is productive to look though. It's not that this is unrealistic, it's just that it is very hard to accept, until we're honestly done looking for the other thing.

@Sukhpaal our experience of love is connection with Self. Love is not literally coming or going through the air from or to anyone. It's only happening within.

@electroBeam Yo! Great post. You busted my chops wide open and that lead to a whirlwind of inconsistent reality, still expanding. It get's more beautiful everyday! Thanks! Conflation is a real doozy!

@5driedgrams When I wake up I laugh out loud at how funny the whole illusion is. I think you and I end up in the same desired state of appreciation. Cool post brutha! Thanks!

@How to be wise it's like watching a movie that's scary or has trauma in it, it's an engaging experience, but u know it's just a movie. life becomes like that, and it's awesome, and very funny.

@Ilya gottcha. sound like you have a lot going for you. if now is not the time to take a life pupose course, just let it go. i don't think we can 'find' it. that's why there are proccesses / coarses. it's a little like asking for pointers to the benefits of meditation without having the time to meditate. i think you could do all of it, but that's just my opinion of course. good luck either way!

@DaveB you could be changing lives in a positive encouraging manor in your human resource position and doing your art program in your other-than-9-5 time. The helpful, compassionate experiences with people could be a very robust source of artistic inspiration and motivation in general to pursue your dreams. If you have decided there is no joy for you in your 9-5, you have made that a reason to not have joy in your life. Every moment can be an adventure. Every day can be rewarding. Your biggest obstacle is likely the food you are eating, your weight, and or alchohol or drugs. This is admittedly very presumptuous advice, forgive me if I am way off.

@Ilya we are all the creators of how we look at things. I suggest you get a piece of paper out and fill one side with anything you want in your life, and the other side with questions you want the answers to. My aim is that this will bring to the surface the deeper desires, which are the 'why's' of living, direction, etc.