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@Heart of Space What’s it like today?

@Joseph Maynor It’s hard to see where an enlightened person would refer to themselves as enlightened. Who would you think you are telling? Some other person? There is a hindsight revelation, that everything one experienced was perfectly needed, because they were behind it all. It was simply removing what was added. Just a suggestion, but, try reading your post in the mindset, that someone else has written it to you.

@StrangerWatch It sounds subtle, it’s not. The concept is ‘everything is you’. But the experience is ‘you, are everything’. It’s not a subtle difference, it’s earth shattering. There’s no difference between the attitude, ‘fuck all’, and ‘fuck me’. Do you not experience your own perceptions? Of course. Do you not see your perception in all the world? Of course. This is where self deception comes in. To think ill of the world, to miss the call for your love, is the same as negative self talk, and defeat. Both are very temporary. So don’t procrastinate. Start responding to suffering with love. Start with self. Truth does set you free, freeing yourself reveals the truth. The symbiosis could not be more perfect. Honesty could never be overrated. The illusion is a facade of self deception. We don’t all see one reality and form opinions. We each hold to what we are, and that is the reality we see. Fear is illusion. I think (provocative I know) you have completely underestimated the work.

@MarkusSweden I just watched ‘How to raise rockstar kids’ last night. It’s fantastic! Check it out. Also, Ester Hicks is a mom and has lots of videos on YouTube about kids. My youngest is in kindergarten, my oldest is 23, and a chemist. I really don’t even remember not being a dad. I’m very lucky that way. Always see them blooming. @Leo Gura, for what’s it’s worth, one guy’s vote here, have kids. You’d be a wonderful dad, and it opens the heart in it’s own unique way. Remember.... the answer’s often.....both! ☺️

@Vlad Ropotica Elkhart Tolle was highly educated. London & Cambridge. A lot of shit kicked in when he hit rock bottom. Your shit’s gonna kick in too. Don’t “hope” for a Tolle style enlightenment, you’re subconsciously making yourself as miserable as possible. Stop that. We don’t know his story, in any real way. If you experienced ego death last week, then how is it you are so miserable? What you need is to let go of all of this. Just give up and surrender to the moment. Let the concerns go. Relax your body and the mind will follow. You will never have to ‘deal with’ a slice of time larger than this moment. Just this moment, now. That’s all you got to rise to. You totally can man. It will pass, and it will get better. What’s really going on? This misery is not unrelative. There is something not working out yet in your life, someone you resent, someone screwed you over. Stop letting them win so to speak. Throw it out here on the forum and watch the response. You’ll be pleasantly surprised. What’s going on man? Talk it right outta ya. Seriously. Suppression builds until it blows. Don’t suppress. Shout it out right now on the forum. We can handle it, and we can help. I have been there too. I was 21. I had a kid on the way. She and I lived together, and I did / do have love for her, but I knew she wasn’t the one. I worked in retail, shitty hours and I hated it. I dropped out of college so I could work 2 part time jobs on top of my more than full time job. My boss was like, the opposite of what anyone would want. Total piece of shit. I tried many meds, therapy, etc. Nothing helped. I stood in a cold shower literally beating my head on the wall. I had actually forgotten my first name. I was home, and I went into a full on panic attack about how I ended up in someone’s house, and where are they and all kinds of crazy shit (no, there were no drugs involved). I had nothing, really, that I cared to live for. Except my son on the way. Then the light. Tiny little fuckin light, bout the size of an atom. Center of my brain. All that light said was - you’re free. I immediately realized it was I who got myself there. No one else. Still didn’t know my name, but I knew who fucked me. It was me. Then I started to see that if I was powerful enough to fuck up every aspect of my life, without even trying - well - what if I did try? I grew that into eating better, exercising, getting promotions, opening my own business, and I’ll never stop. That little tiny light, it’s the entire world now. It’s reality itself. I have never went back there. So don’t assess your situation, just vent it out. Don’t think you know how your life’s gonna go. You don’t. Not a single one of us does. You’ve been through hell. You’ve seen the depths. It is cosmic and divine, and in perfect order, that when you make it through this - this shit pile of a day - you make it through this....and you’re unstoppable. Nothing will scare, you’ll laugh in it’s face. I promise you, one day, not far from today, people will be inspired by your presence. Your conviction. Your faith because you know. You know you faced the depths, and you’re still standing, and no one will ever have the upper hand. You’ll know. But you can’t give up - or you’ll never get to be that Vlad. You can’t give up. Relax. Relax. THIS WILL PASS. Relax.

@Joseph Maynor I make my way through the little sideshow circus that is my life is by believing in myself, and knowing love. That’s it. I tell my friends, in truth, and in jest, I have a running offer, $20 if they can point out a belief I hold. If I hung out with Leo, I would not offer that bet & bankrupt my self in that manor. I suspect he’d list em faster than a calculator could tally.

@SOUL we are where we are. It is so perfect it could be no other way. I think we’re all scrutinizing too much and tripping over saying the same thing different ways. Love you guys! if we know, we know. If we don’t know, question it till death. There’s no other way there either.

@Joseph Maynor Very happy for you! As always! ❤️

@Joseph Maynor Also, though, in truth, there is no present, nor a moment. That’s a trap too....because enlightenment isn’t theoretical, the map is theory. You may throw things at me now, I deserve it. If your aim is good, you’ll hit yourself though. ?

@herghly it works fine. You just have to concentrate.

@SOUL ?☺️?

@Timotheus Not trying to be all nondual about it, but the only answer, is we do not do this for our selves if by selves you mean a separate / other than God selves. There is only One being, and a shitload of illusion. So, yes, you’re doing this, and I’m doing this, but we are not doing anything, because there is no we. The weird strange truth is any difference between me and you is illusionary.

@solr The awareness / consciousness / love increases as the self deception (believing the illusion is actual reality, and that you are a separate being) decreases. The shocker is that there is only bliss. That’s it. All else is self deception / devilry. Look at your hand - see it - that’s literally because you’re fooling yourself. It’s not actually there. The most convincing aspects of the illusion are thinking it’self, and specifically, thinking one is a separate self, and pain (imo). The root of all suffering, is self deception. This is why Leo always stresses the importance of an open mind, and a genuine attitude of ‘there’s always more’, and an open heart. Imo, it’s the most intricate process imaginable, and then the rest, the larger part, is unimaginable until it’s experienced / accomplished. I try not to fault or judge anyone who claims their own situation of reality could not possibly be outside of what they have experienced combined with the capacity of their imagination. Admittedly, at first glance, it sounds absurd. That’s why it is so difficult, and take enormous commitment.

@Berjohansen Sounds like you’re in the now, and having glimpses of the insight of the oneness and the relativity of all things (yourself). Funny as heck but hard to say why it’s so funny? Feeling of relief?

@Matteo Wow. What a great read! Thanks for sharing! So young to be what you are. How wonderful to have a friend who is also able to be so vulnerable. Know you both know the connection! So sweet. Enjoy the adventure of you! ❤️

There really aren’t bad and good just a circus of individual preferences. Control is rooted in thinking which is illusionary ultimately, so relaxing, stomach breathing, letting go of concerns, just being in the flow of the now is a state of mindfulness. Look for the difference between acting mindful and mindfulness. ‘Acting’ makes us perk up, ‘being’ makes us relax. Notice the nature of consciousness is that it comes and goes. When it’s here, now, we are present. When we are not present, we’re ‘sleeping’ through life. So mindfulness at work is the same as mindfulness not at work. There’s a deeper thought pattern about work vs not work that takes time replace, but this is the freeing of the mind, it’s worthwhile and needs some patience. It leads to effortlessness by default, when all of our illusions such as this are no longer believed. The truth is called the truth because it’s the truth. Lol. The ego believes. So believe in your self, until the notion is hilarious. There’s a paradox/circle/practice of making more finite distinctions until we’re no longer separate, in terms of consciousness. Thinking and pain are the mechanisms that convince us everything is real. “Defend the body/person” thoughts (ego) kicks in, veils the true self, and applies a percespective of separate ‘me’. This triggers fear, because it implies we are real, which implies we come and go, exist and then don’t exist, live and die, etc. This feels bad because it’s being in a state of incorrect thoughts about one’s self, which does not resonate with the truth of self. Yes, definitly be doing daily practices. Manage which ones to do so you don’t get stagnant. Mindfulness across the board. What you eat, how you eat, what you watch, read, relationships, self talk, honesty, personality, everything. Sometimes I think it’s good to look at this like you’re doing the real work, the actual liberating work all day everyday. To let all of the baggage this can stir up go, we have meditation and sleep. The over all cleansing process could be sleep, then meditation, mindfulness, always mindfulness. Allow the falsities to reveal themselves. Stomach breath and relax through the rougher purifications of the mind, then sleep to rejuvenate again. Being consciously aware and mindful enough to actually see through the facade of your own ego, your very own mind, is no joke. You can see this in the world. Jokes are funny because they are inappropriate. Comedians make jokes about everything, like, anything goes! But nobody is gonna make a joke to someone else about the degree to which their mind is free, or not free. With the truth in mind, even the most unacceptable jokes are funny. But speaking directly about one’s freedom is never funny. A deep part of all of us senses something profound about ourselves. We are tricky, tricky fuckers.

@molosku Curious, what might be an example of the ‘other belief’ this opens the door to? Thanks

@Hsinav Thanks for drawing my attention, I deleted them. Some weird fluke the way it posted like 5 times.

@JackL Sorry man. For some reason I assumed this was your first trip. Have fun!

@Epiphany_Inspired https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/stress-anxiety-depression/overcoming-fears/?

Are you trolling, or just being vague? You took benzos, you didn’t take anything, they were in your system? Are you maybe on a trip now?

@Galyna You’re certainly headed in the right direction.

Phonetic alphabet contains no F ‘s, but these are the trappings of life, and it’s important to learn to let go.

@Nathan Drugs involved? Just went for like a walkaboute? Was something troubling you at home that led to goin all Forest Gump on it? Is there something you want to be pursing or getting going in your life that you haven’t been able to get yourself to start? Something you know you want to stop doing but just can’t seem to? From what you’ve said so far, sounds like your in one of the harder ages / parts of life, and that led you to act pretty carelessly. If you’re comfy with sharing, how old are you and what’s your living situation?

@pluto You sob. You really hit the feels with that one. @cetus56 Hellz. Yes. ?