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@Charlotte Thanks! Sorry to hear! ?

@Heart of Space Very moving man. So happy for you. Seriously. Any good jokes lately?

@sarapr Great breakthrough! Keep going, of course. That distinction / detachment feels pretty nice I’m betting...? Not believing the thoughts too?

@carlos flores My opinion, raising consciousness is an intimate, personal, inner game only. What we do derives from consciousness work. If you’re in the ring, and he’s in the ring, and you guys love the mental chess game, the thrill of endurance, etc, then ??. Punchin someone in the face who’s just minding their business, walking down the street - that’s violence. It comes down to that place only you are in. The inside game. Only you know your intentions, and how it resonates. You’re probably already familiar with the life story of Ali, but if not, read up on him. IMO, he put self conscience before boxing and made it work, not that I could really know, ultimately. ?

@lens And yet...enlightened masters often use phrases like “you could cut my arm off and I wouldn’t care”.

@Shin I’m trying!!! It’s just keeps resolving into masterbation.

@cetus56 ??❤️

It’s that time God fucked with itself.

The answer, imo, is always both, but only in terms of thought, because - that’s where all the duality comes from. If there’s fear, or doubt, then the quality of our thinking is diminished. Suffering is not necessary to experience pleasure. The illusion is just much more obvious, and much more personal. We think,...this creates and filters duality, so there is a common default of choosing one of two, or trying to reconcile two. Without fear or doubt, we naturally choose preferred. If two options are preferred, without fear or doubt, we’d naturally choose both. Maya is playing it’s best game when, in a split second, it has already convinced you to so easily forget it is illusionary, and it is you. Forgetting that, we start to incorporate, justify, and accommodate what we ourselves - do not even prefer. It is the obviousness of the situation that stings us. That the focus, the attention, was ours all along.

@Leo Gura ❤️

@Vipassana You are freeing yourself with your honesty and it’s a beautiful thing. Stay steadfast in your morning daily meditation. Stop eating junk. Junk food fucks the clarity. When the awareness expands, we get pretty frustrated about the hibats we’ve picked up to ease suffering. It’s th rough part, but stay open and honest, be willing to go through the pains. It’s worth it. Meditation, honesty - two steps forward. Junk food, negative self talk - one step back.

@Heart of Space What’s it like today?

@Joseph Maynor It’s hard to see where an enlightened person would refer to themselves as enlightened. Who would you think you are telling? Some other person? There is a hindsight revelation, that everything one experienced was perfectly needed, because they were behind it all. It was simply removing what was added. Just a suggestion, but, try reading your post in the mindset, that someone else has written it to you.

@StrangerWatch It sounds subtle, it’s not. The concept is ‘everything is you’. But the experience is ‘you, are everything’. It’s not a subtle difference, it’s earth shattering. There’s no difference between the attitude, ‘fuck all’, and ‘fuck me’. Do you not experience your own perceptions? Of course. Do you not see your perception in all the world? Of course. This is where self deception comes in. To think ill of the world, to miss the call for your love, is the same as negative self talk, and defeat. Both are very temporary. So don’t procrastinate. Start responding to suffering with love. Start with self. Truth does set you free, freeing yourself reveals the truth. The symbiosis could not be more perfect. Honesty could never be overrated. The illusion is a facade of self deception. We don’t all see one reality and form opinions. We each hold to what we are, and that is the reality we see. Fear is illusion. I think (provocative I know) you have completely underestimated the work.

@MarkusSweden I just watched ‘How to raise rockstar kids’ last night. It’s fantastic! Check it out. Also, Ester Hicks is a mom and has lots of videos on YouTube about kids. My youngest is in kindergarten, my oldest is 23, and a chemist. I really don’t even remember not being a dad. I’m very lucky that way. Always see them blooming. @Leo Gura, for what’s it’s worth, one guy’s vote here, have kids. You’d be a wonderful dad, and it opens the heart in it’s own unique way. Remember.... the answer’s often.....both! ☺️

@Vlad Ropotica Elkhart Tolle was highly educated. London & Cambridge. A lot of shit kicked in when he hit rock bottom. Your shit’s gonna kick in too. Don’t “hope” for a Tolle style enlightenment, you’re subconsciously making yourself as miserable as possible. Stop that. We don’t know his story, in any real way. If you experienced ego death last week, then how is it you are so miserable? What you need is to let go of all of this. Just give up and surrender to the moment. Let the concerns go. Relax your body and the mind will follow. You will never have to ‘deal with’ a slice of time larger than this moment. Just this moment, now. That’s all you got to rise to. You totally can man. It will pass, and it will get better. What’s really going on? This misery is not unrelative. There is something not working out yet in your life, someone you resent, someone screwed you over. Stop letting them win so to speak. Throw it out here on the forum and watch the response. You’ll be pleasantly surprised. What’s going on man? Talk it right outta ya. Seriously. Suppression builds until it blows. Don’t suppress. Shout it out right now on the forum. We can handle it, and we can help. I have been there too. I was 21. I had a kid on the way. She and I lived together, and I did / do have love for her, but I knew she wasn’t the one. I worked in retail, shitty hours and I hated it. I dropped out of college so I could work 2 part time jobs on top of my more than full time job. My boss was like, the opposite of what anyone would want. Total piece of shit. I tried many meds, therapy, etc. Nothing helped. I stood in a cold shower literally beating my head on the wall. I had actually forgotten my first name. I was home, and I went into a full on panic attack about how I ended up in someone’s house, and where are they and all kinds of crazy shit (no, there were no drugs involved). I had nothing, really, that I cared to live for. Except my son on the way. Then the light. Tiny little fuckin light, bout the size of an atom. Center of my brain. All that light said was - you’re free. I immediately realized it was I who got myself there. No one else. Still didn’t know my name, but I knew who fucked me. It was me. Then I started to see that if I was powerful enough to fuck up every aspect of my life, without even trying - well - what if I did try? I grew that into eating better, exercising, getting promotions, opening my own business, and I’ll never stop. That little tiny light, it’s the entire world now. It’s reality itself. I have never went back there. So don’t assess your situation, just vent it out. Don’t think you know how your life’s gonna go. You don’t. Not a single one of us does. You’ve been through hell. You’ve seen the depths. It is cosmic and divine, and in perfect order, that when you make it through this - this shit pile of a day - you make it through this....and you’re unstoppable. Nothing will scare, you’ll laugh in it’s face. I promise you, one day, not far from today, people will be inspired by your presence. Your conviction. Your faith because you know. You know you faced the depths, and you’re still standing, and no one will ever have the upper hand. You’ll know. But you can’t give up - or you’ll never get to be that Vlad. You can’t give up. Relax. Relax. THIS WILL PASS. Relax.

@Joseph Maynor I make my way through the little sideshow circus that is my life is by believing in myself, and knowing love. That’s it. I tell my friends, in truth, and in jest, I have a running offer, $20 if they can point out a belief I hold. If I hung out with Leo, I would not offer that bet & bankrupt my self in that manor. I suspect he’d list em faster than a calculator could tally.

@SOUL we are where we are. It is so perfect it could be no other way. I think we’re all scrutinizing too much and tripping over saying the same thing different ways. Love you guys! if we know, we know. If we don’t know, question it till death. There’s no other way there either.

@Joseph Maynor Very happy for you! As always! ❤️

@Joseph Maynor Also, though, in truth, there is no present, nor a moment. That’s a trap too....because enlightenment isn’t theoretical, the map is theory. You may throw things at me now, I deserve it. If your aim is good, you’ll hit yourself though. ?

@herghly it works fine. You just have to concentrate.

@SOUL ?☺️?

@Timotheus Not trying to be all nondual about it, but the only answer, is we do not do this for our selves if by selves you mean a separate / other than God selves. There is only One being, and a shitload of illusion. So, yes, you’re doing this, and I’m doing this, but we are not doing anything, because there is no we. The weird strange truth is any difference between me and you is illusionary.

@solr The awareness / consciousness / love increases as the self deception (believing the illusion is actual reality, and that you are a separate being) decreases. The shocker is that there is only bliss. That’s it. All else is self deception / devilry. Look at your hand - see it - that’s literally because you’re fooling yourself. It’s not actually there. The most convincing aspects of the illusion are thinking it’self, and specifically, thinking one is a separate self, and pain (imo). The root of all suffering, is self deception. This is why Leo always stresses the importance of an open mind, and a genuine attitude of ‘there’s always more’, and an open heart. Imo, it’s the most intricate process imaginable, and then the rest, the larger part, is unimaginable until it’s experienced / accomplished. I try not to fault or judge anyone who claims their own situation of reality could not possibly be outside of what they have experienced combined with the capacity of their imagination. Admittedly, at first glance, it sounds absurd. That’s why it is so difficult, and take enormous commitment.

@Berjohansen Sounds like you’re in the now, and having glimpses of the insight of the oneness and the relativity of all things (yourself). Funny as heck but hard to say why it’s so funny? Feeling of relief?