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@The Don Imo, you are on the right track my friend. Self honesty, if need be, in defiance of all norms - absolute self honesty alone, wears the yellow robe.

Dude, captivating. I believe you experienced what you say you did, for what that’s worth. WHAT DID HE ASK YOU??? I’ll let you know what I see. I’ve had nondual / pure/only, experiences, but I had one which was “outside” of nonduality, which of course in words makes no sense at all. Of all I’ve read and heard, only one person described this same experience. What you’re saying is intriguing and I appreciate your openness and sharing very much. What did he ask you!!!! Heck of a cliff hanger man!

@YaMayka What if alone is as authentic as it gets?

@Shakazulu I’ve done this, but it was on the back of 15 (ish) years of meditation. The year or two prior to the retreat I was doing twice a day meditation, approx. 30-60 mins first thing in the morning, and then 15 - 30 mins again in the afternoon. So I don’t know what the ideal ‘preparation’ is (nothing like 15 years is needed imo), but I want to pass this on from what I’ve experienced ...nature is best, alone is best (there was so much screaming and convulsion I couldn’t use my voice for a day or so, don’t want anyone around because you’d suppress that, and the point is to let the body purify the falsity/emotional patterns) and alone as in, consistently alone, not even ‘going into town’ and having passive contact with people, and a psych trip in the middle stands to blast the retreat to an insane level. Also consider not roughing it for such a feat, as in, a cabin or cottage with temperature control is ideal, versus the concerns that comes with a tent & campfire. And steps to total relaxation & energy / mind awareness before the retreat are very very very helpful, such as a deep tissue massage, reiki, and a psychic and or medium visit. These things might make much more sense after the retreat.

@Sockrattes Did you experience the elves, then learn about McKenna’s experiences, or the other way around? The absolute is called the absolute because it’s absolute. There’s really no possibility of mistaking it, as, it is the absolute. Once experienced, it would not matter to you what anyone called it / you, that’s how absolute it is. Also, how does the term ‘nonduality’ register with your experiences? (If at all, not trying to assume anything)

https://reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/platos-cave-do-you-know-the-difference-between-reality-and-illusion/

@Serotoninluv yep.

@Psyche_92 ?? Nice!

Has eggistential been used yet?

Explain.

@kieranperez Very wise oberservation. Of course it is. All thought is. Unless you are well practiced in awareness of thoughts. But then, you woulnd’t need the practice.

@MM1988 I know dude. I know. The effort is spent trying to keepin it in. It takes a lot of energy to suppress. Let that shit out. If you need to sit for hours, and cry all night, do so. Stop running. Enough. Don’t be afraid of the suffering, the sensations of fear and frustration. Embrace it. Feel whatever arises and you begin to be free of it. It might take while, you might need to do this a few times, or more. That’s ok. Just let the body do what it already knows how to do. “You” just sit there and accept it, and go through it. BREATHE DEEPLY & SLOWLY. The suffering is the result of running from the fear - the sensation in your body. Don’t be afraid. Sit back and relax as best you can, and let your body purge all that shit. And stop telling the same old story, that is perpetuating the suffering. Tell the story you want, have faith in that. It might be blind faith today, but that’s WAY better than the alternative of same old. A day will come, soon, where you won’t rely on faith, you’ll know. And guess what you’ll do then? Help somebody. And guess how that’s gonna feel? Like love.

Let that go. That is meditation. This repeating of your victim story, diminishing yourself, saying others are lucky but not you - that’s all THINKING. Let THINKING go. That is meditation. Or don’t. Keep telling that same story. What do I know, right? Nothing.

I was suicidal. I took a hand full of happy pills everyday for a while. I learned not to blame, but rather to do the work. To look at myself. Then I started telling a different story. Enlightenment has nothing to do with this. Stop using it as an excuse to keep telling the same old story. And for God’s sake, stop looking for people to commiserate with.

I am not triggered. I have no hate. I’m aware that I am the assignor of meaning, so I am not. Are you aware that you are the assignor of meaning? No. You’ve been lazy and afraid. Will you admit, to yourself, that you are assigning meaning, and you have been denying this? Ya, it’s going to be rough, that realization. But you are braver than you know. You can tell another story, and that one will come true. There is nothing to learn here, this is exactly what you’re already doing. You are a much, much better story teller. Perhaps, instead of deflecting your ignorance towards me, claiming I am ‘triggered’ - consider telling a better story about me. Then see that you can do this for yourself. I know that you can.

@MM1988 Listen closely. There is no meaning. There is love. YOU are assigning meaning, but you are one sneaky sneaky being, and you keep tricking yourself that the meaning is coming from objects. It ain’t. All meaning, is coming from you. Stop being so damn sneaky. Without ignorantly projecting meaning onto everything to fit your same old story, - freedom, love. Ignorant is not an insult, is it a state of unaware that YOU and only YOU are making up all meaning. Start writing a different story.

You too. Knock this childish shit off man. If you continue to say “I need a relationship to start letting go of the past and loving myself”, you are projecting that past as a condition. You are intelligent, I see that. You know better.

Stop ignoring the selfishness and the obvious fault in your line of thinking. You know exactly what you’re doing here. You’re doing this to yourself with conditions & excuses. You’ll need to choose a much more mature perspective, conveniently, you are much more mature than this. This victimizing yourself via conditions is not going to make you happy. If you look for love in yourself, you find it. Please stop acting like you look and it is not there. It’s irresponsible of you and misleading to people less mature than you. Enough dude. Enough pushing the past onto your now. Enough. Put it down.

@Nic ??

@Serotoninluv Well stated man. “living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see...nothing is real..nothing to get hung about”.

This could have been called The Eggsperiment. It’s too late for that now though. ? Edit: @Consept Doh! My bad.

@Serotoninluv Let’s get that added on urban dictionary.... “The Black Eyed Baby Bandit”.

@Emanyalpsid Understandable. The nature of eggistence is a complicated matter.

1. Have someone punch you in the face. 2. Then immediately try to pretend you did not just get punched in the face. Truth / Nonduality is not mistakable, like the punch in the face is not mistakable. “Yeah but what about.....what if....this guy says.....you’d have to admit it’s possible that.....this one time I....you don’t know.........anybody could be.......” - clearly you skipped step 1.