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Welcome, sorry to hear, and… nice ‘work’ there. Understanding emotion. Recognizing the true source of the true nature.

@WokeBloke That proof would also be, experience. What can’t be experience(d)?

@blackchair Much love, enjoy the holidays and family. Wishing you peace, deep relaxation and heeling eyes. ??

@captainamerica Finally. That guy gets it. ??

@Javfly33 Irunic maybe.

Maybe they’re just enjoying sharing. You’re the truth. Remember?

I understand what you’re saying, and that the interpretation doesn’t feel good because it isn’t true, it’s aversion. Believing it’s relevant if anyone else understands is focusing on thoughts about someone else, and believing that will result in feeling better, and is aversion from understanding what you’re feeling. “I honestly don't know what it was exactly…. …but I refused to eat because I just told myself I could not.” Believing the thoughts which ‘say’ there are two of you, is aversion, a way of not feeling. (You can’t tell yourself anything, you are yourself). Believing you are experiencing reactions to stress is a way of interpreting feeling, and is not feeling, and thus is suppression, a way to not feel. Understand what you’re experiencing, rather than averting away from it by conceptualizing, blaming & justifying it to enable continuing to do so. It’s compassionate to understand where others are coming from. Feels good. More connective than isolating, more forgiving than resenting, more understanding & loving than blaming and spiteful, more liberating than captivating. What would you do today if you were the parent & it was your kid? And why is your kid refusing to eat? Feel better. Surely there is something you’re interested in in the present. Surely you have some desires & dreams for the future. I don't know how to reverse it either because I don't know what I did/what happened. I might have created some weird change in my neurology or something. That interpretation doesn’t feel good to you, and is aversion from what you’re feeling. Aversion really stinks. But only until you actually smell it.

@Javfly33 It really is mind blowing. One’s emotional guidance to everything they want, another’s horrible feeling in the body. ?

@EmptyVase ? Already, as in I already was focusing on a discordant thought, interpretation, etc, and already feel the discord.

@Max1993 Awesome. ??

Good for you man!

@EmptyVase Excellent, excellent ‘work’ man. What comes to mind is the above & below of contentment. To reach contentment is to let go of what is already discordant. That already is the key. If there is not already the emotional experience of lower than contentment, then nothing is suppressed in the shifting to a thought with an accompanying higher emotion. I suspect what your experiencing is more intuition, and thus emotional autocorrecting of the body mind, and the great joy of emotional sensitivity. It’s sounds like you are seeing a mile away, a discordant thought, whereas before you might have focused on it and entertained it longer. Now, you just know. Not the knowledge know, but the being knowingness. For that knowingness, thought isn’t even needed. Still useful of course in communicating, expressing preference etc… but not as needed for alignment.

@Tyler Durden Spiritual meaning & nondual experience are oxymorons. “Deeper meaning” in this case therefore actually means more conceptualized. @Iesu Criticism: The practice of analyzing, classifying, interpreting, or evaluating literary or other artistic works. Some believe criticism is untenable, yet spend the majority of their time living in it. Some even take it beyond the literary & artistic works of others, and believe criticism is untenable while criticizing others, and convince others that criticism does not apply to their work. Tenable & untenable are concepts, and all concepts are subject to your analyzing, classifying, interpreting and evaluation. The alternative is blind faith.

Spiritual meaning & nondual experience are oxymorons. “Deeper meaning” in this case therefore actually means more conceptualized.

@Gesundheit2 Uh, I don’t know, who? If it sounds like that’s what I’m saying or trying to say, it’s not.

@Gesundheit2 Hmm. I’ve actually waxed legs and applied make up. Not to me, but honestly it was quite fun. I think I get what you’re saying about fun being a cover but I don’t agree. Fun seems like the point to me, and I don’t really know or get what sexual potential, winning or a social hierarchy is. Maybe you’re being facetious, dunno. I’m pretty convinced these middle westerners all just wanna have fun. Kind of a ‘it’s all good and it’s all in fun, now get in the pit and try ta love someone’ vibe over here. We got material girls too, but overall more about turning the page, and the real you standing up.

@actually Anytime. Not sure what you mean. This is the actualized chat, here on the forum, no? And there is private messaging as well, feel free to reach out anytime.

It might be regional but girls around here like to be themself and have fun, and don’t seem interested in playing mind games. Honestly, this thinking is only encountered in this experience on this forum. Similarly, judgement, like fake and low conscious. Again, might be local, but girls don’t seem to resonate with that way of thinking.

@actually Jealousy is an emotion which reveals to you that you want something. Whatever that something is, you can have it. This can bring limiting beliefs to the surface to be let go. Beliefs about how you can’t have it. Beliefs about yourself. Make a dreamboard and focus on the having of what it is you desire. Not some special or meta focus, just the same regular effortless focus. Point it to that board so to speak, instead of the beliefs, and momentum is such that those beliefs (thoughts) won’t even arise anymore. You will likely release and cry, and that is letting go, and more desirable than anger (again). You’ll literally forget you ever experienced those thoughts. Understanding jealousy leads to recognizing abundance, and it’ll be a great joy for you to see that everyone can create the relations-share and experiences they desire to. This doesn’t entirely translate in text. Let me know if you’d like to chat sometime. You’re not alone is experiencing and coming to understand jealousy, others feel it too. Express is key. Relating is connective.

Insecurity is an emotion, not some thing you have, and not some thing about you. The ‘smog’ is the shift is focus, from her (seeing & hearing her) to the belief about yourself. The ‘loop’ is the belief insecurity is not an emotion, but some ‘thing’ true about you. Everyone experiences emotions, it’s not unique to you at all. The holding of the belief, believing ‘you are insecure’ is unique. Not everyone believes that. Some understand and recognize the emotion, and receive the guidance therein, seeing through the misunderstanding and therefore the belief. Imagine if the ‘yourself’ of thoughts were instead a good friend. Would you tell your friend ‘you’re insecure’, or would you help your friend understand the emotion she is experiencing, and to dispel the belief? Treat yourself like you would treat your friend. If you just want to get laid, dip into the readily available bags of tricks. If you desire more than that, potentially some kind of relationship, ‘do the work’ first. Think foundation first. Be more mindful of what’s being offered than of what you’re getting. Suppressing the discord (of the belief) while on a date is possible, but why do that when you can inspect and free yourself of the misunderstanding. The belief discolors, or distorts every aspect of your life experience, and is not related to or specific to dating, and has nothing to do with anyone else, only with the thoughts & beliefs. When we suppress, it’s near impossible not to experience projection (“she’s projecting insecurity onto me). You’re projecting that onto her, and that indeed makes it difficult to see her as she is, and enjoy any kind of genuine honest relationship. Gotta get honest with yourself first, about what you’re thinking. Again, if you’re just desiring to get laid and don’t care about actually letting the discord go or seeing her for how she really is, just ignore this ‘zen / riddler nonsense’… In accordance with direct experience of what is actual & true, you never come, and never go. Ever. This is why it is discordant to believe that you are insecure. It isn’t true. You can focus on anything else when beliefs arise, to feel better, and let the belief go. It takes time (momentum change). For real, I’d choose this instead, or whatever else feels light, carefree and easy to you. Try it a few times, the simplicity of focusing on anything else will click, and the belief will be released without any effort at all, of it’s own accord so to speak, simply for not repetitively focusing on it. What’s realized as you do, is you are creating your experience (she’s not projecting anything onto you), because you are the creator of your reality. What inevitably follows, is no longer finding someone to satisfy bodily impulse, but to create a life, a reality with. Conscious & unconscious are just belief btw. It’s focusing on thought instead of feeling (suppression). Pro tip… your day likely starts with waking up and focusing on the same discordant thoughts as the days before. Change that. Pick a couple things that feel good to you, and do that first… before anything else (people, email, etc). Whatever that is for you. Could be meditation, prayer, drawing, going for a walk, etc. Whatever feels good for you. For me this morning it was blasting this so loud the bass made a picture fall off the wall. It’s perfectly meaningless. Just feels good. The dancing is optional but recommended.

What is a thought. @Chris365 James was banned for speaking the truth.

Go wherever, experience whatever. There’s no commitment. Without believing in a my level of understanding there’s nothing to protect & nothing at risk. Clearly what you want to experience is in conflict with the belief you are a lone wolf. Favor the experience imo. (I am inherently a ______ isolates, separates, thought wise) A future is not a your past. Your past is like your understanding. If you have these not there is nothing to protect, nothing to lose, no risk. Maybe if you learn from each other and are parallel (vs identifying at all as the teacher) there is relief instead of risk as well. It’s entirely possible to just spend time enjoying the company, without any contention in regard to spirituality. ‘Normal’, even.

Impossible is a thought. It is a thought. Detach is a thought. Us & survive are thoughts. Meditator is a thought. I is a thought. They is a thought. Representation is a thought. Narratives is a thought. My & life, are thoughts.

Self awakens as itself (not to itself), and thus is not viewed by or realized by anyone or anything else. Nondual means ‘not two’. Nonduality and duality, would be two. Our is two. We is two. Subjective (&) experience is two. I’m & this is two. I’m and God is two. God and everything is two. God and concept/conceptual/conceptualizing is two. I’m and understanding is two. This and limit is two. This and human mind is two.

@Etherial Cat ooooh boy