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@How to be wise Uh, maybe the person who it is addressed to, the one who asked me to be more specific. What’s with your distaste for me? Somebody tell you I slept with Katie or somethin? What’s goin on?

@Misagh No worries ?? Maybe another time. ❤️

@okulele In emptying your cup, it disappears into consciousness - synchronicity in unification. Is the cup really empty is the variable, not infinite intelligence.

@Cepzeu Absolutely beautiful. ??

@Misagh “Basic” self realization? “Incredibly high level of enlightenment” ?

Coral will remain unattainable, an implication of, the “holy grail” - a punchline. If I am nondual, and you are nondual, what distinctions remain for words which unify? None. What words do you say to yourself, in samadhi? None. What words do you say to yourself in appearance of physicality? None. What would there be to say? Nothing. What reason to say it? None. Paradoxically, spiral dynamics doesn’t actually exist at the “coral level”. It’s a thought, in appearance, on appearance. SD’s strengthens perception of duality via distinctions, until it collapses on itself in nonduality. Coral is the innocence of the dreamer, the colorless rainbow, a promise, Horton.

@Baotrader You should, and no, nobody needs to aquire knowledge to realize the nondual nature, because it’s the actual situation, regardless of knowledge. Knowledge can be used to strengthen the appearance “I am separate” if there is insufficient inward inquiry. The identifying with knowledge is the veiling, not the knowledge, because the identity & knowledge are illusionary / appearance. You might only inflate the notion of separation via knowledge, thinking “my intelligence”, confusing being “intelligent” as “enlightened” - missing what it is which is being, and what it is which is intelligence. This can reinforce the ignorance that there is a separate being ( “ a person “) which is “becoming enlightened”. The vantage of understanding qm’s, etc, must be directed in inquiry into the self. Standard uninspected sensory input tells you the universe is real, & separate from you - that you are physical, individual and temporary. The study of ‘outside reality’ can reveal the knowledge that physicality in actually is vibration / energy / constant change & fluctuation - it just appears stationary & unchanging. Like an apple sitting on the counter appears physical, solid, and permanent, but watch it in the sun for 3 days, and it’s revealed to have never been stationary, always relative, always in a state of change. The ego sees the implication of this a mile away, and says “fuck that”, “we’re all set here”, “Good day sir”. And there is no inquiry into the ego. But alas, suffering is relentless - inherently present in ignorance. (Ignoring the relative vibratory implication of a fleeting self) How long can a drop of water in the middle of the ocean remain convinced is it a separate drop, through speculation and analysis of the ocean and ‘other drops’? What thought processes are defensively at play, which could allow a drop to remain convinced it is just a drop? The drop would need to look inward to the deeper currents which move it. Fear says “you did a lot of shit to be a solid stable drop, don’t fuck that up now”. But that ocean says otherwise, simply by saying “ok” to the drop. The drop “has conditions”, “has intelligence”, “loves”, “is loved”, “is free”. The ocean is intelligence, is love, is freedom. What is it which separates the drop from the ocean, but the uninspected notion, it is a separate, solid, physical, drop.

@Shin ❤️ “This place is a dream, only a sleeper considers it real. Then death comes like dawn, and you wake up laughing at what you thought was your grief.” - Mushrooms

Nice.

@How to be wise Great question! What did I say there? Did you understand it, first?

@Baotrader About the juice, I meant, if nonduality is accurate, then you are Einstein & Buddha, and “Einstein & Buddha” reveal something to you, about you, from you. I’d say the point is the teacher’s experience, and the student’s experience, and the experience of each allowing the experience of the other, unless they’re enlightened, then, like you pointed out, there’s no point, except the experience. I hear what you’re saying about Leo & Sadhguru, but in the same vein, what does that say to you, in your awakening? Maybe upon your enlightenment, you’ll be the one to resolve the hard problem of science, bridging the quantum & atomic. That’d be really cool I assume. Maybe Leo’s already done that though. It’s inherently confusing, the matter of what another person would do in enlightenment. Lol.

@Charlotte Maybe some time we can put some awareness on these panic attacks. ♥️

@Rilles Infinite, immaterial.

@AlwaysBeNice A dream of mind.

@Baotrader How’s this relative to you though? What’s the ‘juice’?

@Baotrader But what is it, your thoughts, or actuality / direct experience? (All of the content in the post) Maybe thinking is not material, maybe there is no material, and maybe thinking there is, is thinking at play. There’s no intent to be right here, the intention is move to the next realization. Am I a moderator? Does that boil down to your thought, in the way you use it, similar to Buddha & Einstein?

@Baotrader Thinking is thinking. Awareness is awareness. Are you aware of anything in that post? Or is it all thinking?

@xbcc Hi & welcome to the forum. Contemplate the “ I “ in your original post. Forget the rest of the words. If you mean “ I “ as in a person which is an individual entity, separate from all that is, then you do not have free will. Free will is only a question ( a thought) you are holding because you think you are an individual entity, separate from all that is. If you mean “ I “ as in all that is, then you do not have free will, as you are already all that is, leaving nothing to impose will, and nothing to impose any will upon.

@Emne Meditate, every morning. Be aware of the arising of “dumb shit bothering you”, and let it go. You are the creator.

@Wekz What is “of the lower self “ that you stand to be done with?

@yawning_ What do you mean, coral?

@SoonHei It’s all thinking. None of this is direct experience. Trust your own experience. Take look at it with a microscope. You’d have to see what you are to see what death is.

Big ol thought tree going. Relax. Live one moment at a time. Come back to now, and lighten up. Have fun with the new stuff. Apply some curiosity, interest, creativity. There’s no shortage of delicious ‘healthy’ recipes, shakes, etc, online, and plenty of facinating books. The “transition” is purification. Awareness being curative. Keep the practices going, and no beating up on yourself. No getting lost in past or future thoughts. Be present, reconnect with your breathing. Be patient with yourself. You know this. It’s the on again off again. It’s common. Feel so good, that you don’t keep the practices going. Don’t beat up on yourself for it. Let it go, breathe, set the intention to get a good night’s sleep, and tomorrow, everything will be much clearer - and you’ll get back on the practices. Sometimes we have to touch the stove again to remember it’s hot. “To feel the sensation of not wanting to do something and to know it will pass, and to do the thing I want. The sensation usually passes very quickly.” - anonymous wiseman

@Amadeusz Relationships are for your consciousness, not to make you happy. What does your friend help you to be conscious of? That is the adventure of self mastery. That is the joy in the journey.

@NoSelfSelf I hear that man. ? Inspiration, synchronicity, trust, unification, delightful way to live.