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@Rilles Schedule a few sessions man. Energy work can revitalize meditation in an astounding way. Especially given you’ve never tried it. I’m jelly.

Awesome insights! Thanks for sharing. Try making tea instead of eating them next time, and have it on an empty stomach. You’ll cut most or all of that unpleasantness out of the experience. Without those ill sensations the insights tend to be even deeper and more profound.

@Rilles Reiki?

@randomguy123 It seems like maybe you semi or subconsciously made a “separate entity” of your body, that it was a master to be appeased in a way. That is a tough one imo, because I believe that when it comes to the body, being disciplined with eating, meditation, yoga, etc, and activity in general (fitness) is the key to knowing the love that is the true self / knowing the happiness that is the true self. It does sound like you have a pretty broad view, and a good understanding through self analysis. All I can offer is that what you said there (above) strikes me as the key. I’d look for ways to expand on that emotionally. It seems to be one of the most common causes of suffering. Thinking is so quick and sneaky. It is all to easy to believe thoughts that we need x, y & z, but letting go, we return to what is, and the now, (happiness). Letting go is of the highest & most worthwhile self mastery. It’s so counter logical though! I think the knot in the stomach is a message, and you need to listen to it. Once it’s “heard”, it will disappear. Sounds like you are, so maybe I’m being redundant...but incase it’s helpful... The way of not listening to the message, is being “too busy”, and or avoidance of emotions. The way of receiving the message, is (might be counter intuitive sounding) putting yourself first, as in, beginning the new mindset of priority one being how you feel...and then everything you do (thoughts, words, actions) being priority two. This is the way of a happy and fulfilled life imo. It is all to easy to put everything and anything before how we feel though, because thought says that is the way to feeling great. Thought is a tricky thing. The challenge in doing this, is being raised in an era where most people are unknowingly living in almost complete avoidance of their emotions, always trying to “feel good”, by “getting things, or getting things done”. This is why I mentioned creative outlets. They can open up the self, the emotions, the whole of emotion, not just the surface level messages of feeling good. A simple creative activity, wether there is developed talent, or none at all, reconnects us to the fact that our individual experience of life, is the only point. Many people in the world would have you think otherwise, but, assess their happiness, look to see if it’s working fo them. Thought itself is tricky enough. Then there is the intuitive inclination to keep ourselves feeling good. But welcoming all feelings that arise, knowing the very message we’re asking for often comes by means of an ailment which serves to get our attention. I find it beneficial to look at it like the deepest center of us all, is the truth, and only the truth It can not go along for a ride when we are tricking ourselves into falsity. So when the body is trying to get your attention, you must stop, and give it your attention. Soon after, the clarity just comes through, and the ailment is resolved. The universe is always giving us what we want. It’s our resistance, usually via keeping ourselves distracted, which perpetuates the suffering. This is “the consciousness work” which you’re doing, it is good. Some days it feels good, some days it totally sucks ass. But, the important thing, very worth acknowledging, is, this is you, talking about it, “doing the work”.

Totally hear where you’re coming from. The emotion love, imo, is an echo of truth, a reassurance, like beauty, rainbows, or bubbles. You are nature, and it’s beauty is not accidental, it is all of the same source. What you’re looking at is intelligence, yet you are convinced it is “nature”. How beautiful is that - really!? It’s ‘too good to be true’. Imagine if your imagination was such that just by imagining it, you could be an ant for a few days. And snap! you’re an ant. But the ant’s intelligence is that of an ant. It doesn’t house, or, can’t fit, the entirety of what it is to be Paul - and as the ant, you totally, 100% believe you are only the ant - it’s obvious even! (as the ant). And then you’re ant buddy is like, “yeah. What’s with cherry pickin intelligence & love as “actual” “!?!? And ant you’d be like “yeah! I think it’s bs, just Paulitual bypassing!”. As the ant, “intelligence” & “love” would amount to sniffing out food, working together to carry the food, feedin the queen, wrapping baby ants in saliva, etc. The ant wouldn’t readily be privy to the fact it is actually Paul’s imagination, cause it most definitly feels like an ant, for real. It’d have no idea that “it’s” ant intelligence & “it’s” ant love is actually intensely scaled down & limited, but yet the very same - love & intelligence that is Paul. The ant would never, in a million years, believe all the hardship & suffering of being an ant is actually the ant’s creation, not Paul’s. Paul is the love & intelligence. Ant ain’t hearin that though. Cause it’s ‘real’, bein an ant. It has to keep “anting” because it could “die”. Then eventually the ant does die... and... - snap! Just Paul again. As Paul, the ant didn’t die, nor was it born, nor did it live, because Paul know’s full & well he just imagined it. It’s too good to be true that you’re actually.... Maybe love is not “a person’s emotion”. Maybe we just think it is. Maybe the you you’re used to as you, is actually the very same you imagining...and maybe you actually love being ants!

@Aakash As it’s currently conceptual, then inquiring into the feeling could very well be a big step in the right direction. The mind will likely wander, looking to create the feeling from thought; looking for memories, thinking of people, movie scenes, who knows. I would think the way to go would be to label any of those as thoughts and let them float away. I’d keep relaxing into the present moment, acknowledging all is well, nothing needs to be done right now, this moment is enough, I am enough, this moment is enough, I am enough. This is interesting. Hope it goes well!

@Aakash It’s not coincidentally similar to self inquiry; never settling for any definition or idea of “ I “. Keep discarding, or not settling for, any definition, or idea, of love. Everything which comes up about relationships, things, activities, interests, etc - label them as those particular relationships, things, activities, interests. As you would go relentlessly deeper in the feeling “me”, also with the feeling “love”.

One way to look at it is, what is this ‘thing’ people use the word “love” for? And then just forget the word alltogether.

@randomguy123 Can you remember before this chronic anxiety (stomach)? Did you grow up in a household with someone wound too tight, stressed, or angry? What are you doing in terms of activities of creative expression? If you could snap your fingers and a change would be done, what would you start? What would you stop? (Actions, things you’re doing or not doing) How do you see the trajectory your life is headed in, relative to how you want it to be headed, on a scale of 1 - 10, and please explain your answer.

@kieranperez Totally understandable.

@Pouya “Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that frightens us. We ask ourselves – Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented and fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking, so that other people won’t feel insecure around you. We are born to manifest the glory that is within us. It is not within some of us, it is in everyone. And when we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.” ~ Marianne Williamson.

@kieranperez Psychedelics can reveal the actuality that you are behind the pattern of visioning & doubting. The vantage point, or “view”, can free you from it, but is not necessary. Therapy can shine clarity on the conditioning appearing to drive this pattern too. In cognitive understanding, you’d also be freed from it. Writing down what you want, outlining simple steps, and following through - and feeling into discomforts which arise - will also free you, in a one day at a time fashion. The opposite would be to continue to get angry, without inspection, justifying conditioning, “pushing” taking action into the future - “when you’re more level headed”. Writing down one simple step to be accomplished each day would serve you well in either case. Consider spending one hour a day, early in the day, taking action. When you do decide to make the changes you desire, it will be in surrender, in silence and peace, not in conversation, nor intensity - it will not be remarkable, but extraordinary. And by all means try some psychedelics.

@Ingit They??

@Ingit What are you doing about the overthinking, worrying, anxiety?

@Ingit Were you diagnosed with that by a dr, and are you getting treatment?

@Arthur Awesome! ?

@Devi Shanti Hi & welcome. You sure picked a good one. ?

The cessation of thought is found in practice.

@XYZ Ya, let that go. Thinking ‘why’ is throwing a penny down a well, and expecting an answer. It just doesn’t work that way. Looking into the nature of who you are is more difficult but much more fruitful than looking for why answers, and of course paradoxically answers all the why questions.

@ajasatya Thanks! Marriage is like psychedelics; neither way is right or wrong, but you very clearly know from direct experience, or you don’t. Both are a total mindf’ing trip, with the potential to show you Love and Truth which could not have been imagined or dreamt of.

@John West Do you ‘trace’ the unpleasant thoughts? As in, look to understand the motives behind them?

Have fun, it’s all a big joke.

@Genghis Khan Great share, thanks!

@Shroomdoctor How do you feel about all that?