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@Average Investor Be safe and enjoy. Make tea if you go with the shrooms. Start with small amounts either way. It’s hard to say which would be better to do first, the trip or the retreat. Both are a great continuance to your journey either way.

@Inliytened1 When science grasps the ungraspable truth it’ll just be some dude by himself laughing, and happy.

Consider getting daily meditation to an hour each morning for a month or two, then going to the retreat center, and then consider psychedelics from that vantage point. Be careful sleeping in the car! Good luck with your journeys.

If there were something else then you could know something about it.

@Jack River Is this where we start making our videos about how the other guy is starting a cult? Jk. ♥️

@Jack River Not wanting to answer those questions apparently, or you’re thinking you did which could imply some fragmentation. I don’t want to assume though.

@Jack River You didn’t actually answer in your responses, but I appreciate it and have a much better idea where you’re coming from. Thanks.

@Seiden Awesome!

Right. But this, and the other questions were about the life you, awareness, is ‘living’. Do you, awareness, make any decisions, is essentially what I’m wondering. Like getting gainful employment, etc, or do you, awareness, “live” via someone else financially supporting you? This is a question about Jack, you, The One. Not so much about “psychological becoming”, etc, etc. Sometimes “what is” is used to avoid one’s own psychology & responsibilities, and not face what is.

@Jack River Thanks for the input, I appreciate it. I’m probably jumping ahead, but I think this goes into desire, want vs need, objective vs subjective, and even infinite intelligence vs self/brain desires, and if I’m not mistaken we don’t see that the same. I’m not assuming, so correct me if I’m wrong, but you’ve expressed desire is of the ego, or (small s) self. But a decent case could be made that when desires of the self are met, experienced, known, and then naturally transcended, a foundation within is built, which enables one to fulfill desire of deeper unification through helping others. So a small decision, and wether it is understood / accepted / viewed as a want or need, is a piece of a bigger thing. And perhaps the fashion in which one goes about helping others is impacted by the desire path, or the nondesire path. I think this is also true for many occasions of sacrifice of one’s self desires, on a path of discovery of the greater desire. In the same sense, in the biggest picture, I would say Nothingness is without desire, so desire must be of the individual. But at the same time, a case could be made that nothingness has desire, because it is you and I, doing whatever we’re doing. So perhaps a notion of unconditional desire arises...? (Sorry, I believe I strayed quite a bit from the original convo. Not to mention, hacked yet another thread.) ? @EvilAngel (sorry)

If you ask the answer is always yes. (Sorry) Because there is a “layer” which answers all questions. (I’m taking your question / this post, as a much bigger question, which is being sort of snuck in as a comparison between meditation & self inquiry. I am reading into your phrasing of “just observe it. If I’m wrong there, just ignore this post)

@Jack River Yes, right. Sometimes it’s interesting to go deeper, and I deduce your interest level by not answer what I asked about, and I respect you’re not wanting to go there.

@Jack River It’s not confusing. No need to answer my questions though, was just curious. Thanks!

What “original question” did I ask about resistance or confusion? Is there choice outside of “the psychological realm”? I mean, if someone is capable of supporting themself, but is being supported by someone else, that current situation would be what is, and they are not acting. Would they not consider the person involved who is supporting them? Would this be delusion, or rather failure to act? Or are you saying it is as simple as only when you “need” to act, you act? (Like borderline starvation, or perhaps when the the other person loses their income) but does this not put the need to act, and therefore the act, contingent on time? How do you arrive at “if I need to support myself”? Isn’t that a given, at maturity / when one is capable of supporting one’s self, one does?

@Jack River The options themselves are not opposing nor confusing. How did this go for you? It sounds like maybe you didn’t think about it, or consider any options (a job, self employment, freelance online, etc), but rather one day you just spontaneously moved out and were self supportive?

@Charlotte That is the sweetest experience isn’t it? I love it!

I eat plenty of fruit, mostly bananas, strawberries, blueberries, avocados, and coconut. I only noticed inflammation when I eat too many grapes, too late at night. Scientifically speaking, I don’t know. I think there are a handful of different types of sugars, and you’d have to eat a ton of fruit to equal the amount of sugar in a soft drink, but this is based on feeling what inflames & what doesn’t, not research. Every body is a little different too.

@Shroomdoctor Sweet! @Charlotte Curious...did you try this? It’s basically what worked for me as well.

Do whatever you want with the land, the animals, etc He said, just don’t eat from the tree of knowledge of good & evil. What do you make of that ol school wisdom? Why would it be in the first chapter, right outta the gate?

What about one of the more common situations (given what I presume to be the average age of forum members), like, should I or should I not secure a source of income to move out, and support myself?

@Joseph Maynor You are Truth.

I agree. We can’t know what they’re really doing “in there”, or to what extend anyone is being dishonest about their practices. Spiritual ego, etc.

This brings to mind what might be a big difference in perspective. I was meditating for around 20 years before the permanent change / oneness. I had never heard of it (enlightenment), never heard the word “nonduality” prior. I found this forum from googling the experience, trying to see if other people experienced it. Now it seems people are reading about this stuff on the forum and other places and more ‘working towards it’, than simply meditating for the daily benefits. So the mindset is very differenct than mine was, in the sense I actually didnt have an idea meditation was accumulative, and headed to anything “bigger”. There’s pro’s and con’s either way I guess, but it is a weird difference. After the oneness breakthrough, and then learning a lot from other people on the forum, I tried psychedelics. Having experienced what I have at this point, I can’t imagine why anyone wouldn’t just take psychedelics and do the daily practices, while focusing on living the best life they can. I’m not sure though, even if someone heard plenty about nonduality - when it is realized, or “happens” to you - it’s still probably like you never even heard of it.

@How to be wise What a breakthrough! Love ya bud!