Nahm

Did it for suffering. Heck of a full circle.

@Charlotte The underlying facet is love, and you’re going to give a ton and experience a ton, wether that love is shared with your biological kids, or the world’s ‘kids’. Some people are very convincing that having kids is most fulfilling, and some are very convincing that LP is the way and the responsibility with kids hinders that, some people do both without ever thinking there was a one or the other scenario, and some people find their life purpose in being a parent. When filtering what people have to say about this down to helping to see what you want, do keep an eye out for if they actually have kids or not, and if they have a LP or not, and therefore are referencing direct experience or not. Also, how having kids and a family ‘goes’ seems like another world to you in a way, it seems, but try to see that it’s one moment at a time, and it’s like everything else under the sun - it’s all what we make of it. You will ‘win’ (have much love in your days) either way, as you are ‘wising up’ to the love. Usually people don’t think about / try to decide about having kids, until they meet that certain someone and fall in love, and most people don’t factor in a LP. So, maybe you’re thinking too far ahead. You’re exploring the LP, but (if I’ve heard you correctly) haven’t fallen in love with someone yet. So you have one piece of the puzzle, but you’re trying to ‘solve’ it as if you have all the pieces. You might look at a lot of things differently when you fall in love with the one you know is the one for you. Also, you might not want a relationship, and or a family at all. (But you did make this post ?) Something to point out, in the spiritual / healing (as a LP) industry & history; Had kids: Gandhi, (Siddhartha) The Buddha, MLK, Ruper Spira, Ester Hicks. Haven’t had kids: Leo, Oprah, Adyashanti, Eckhart Tolle, (Matt Kahn hasn’t but stated he does intend to.) So, a spiritual life purpose can be experienced with or without having kids. They are not at odds. My sentiment is fill your life, experience it all, have faith it will work. Personally, I vote have kids and a family. That ‘vote’ comes not only from the fortunate bias of being very happily married with 3 kids (easily the greatest facet of my life). It also comes from being in my forties now, and seeing very clearly (tiny sample size admittedly), that the friends I have who did not have kids, really struggle with the regret. Again, though, it is what we make it, and you’re still plenty young enough, no need to rush the thinking. (I had my first at 20, and my third at 36, and my wife is the same age as me btw). Like anything, look into it. Ask about it, read about it, contemplate it. ♥️

You weren’t taking care of yourself, loving yourself. And now you have been, so you’re thinking ahead. I think the confusion is because you’re thinking ahead too far. Keep exploring & discovering yourself. You’re doing really great. Assuming when you think of having kids, it’s with a partner, you’re thinking ahead of the finding of the partner part. That could change the way you look at everything you want in this life. Having kids might look totally different in a year or two. Might not too. Either is fine. Keep doing what you’re doing, and the ‘right’ person does just ‘show up’. Careful with one sided views, for every person who says you can’t have kids and pursue LP, there is a person who’s love with their kids inspires them, brings passion to life & their LP.

@Will Bigger ??

@Wisebaxter https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k8SmlRDzIRM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=36Vl9YHDNEw

Have you considered yet, that your’re wrong? And that a lot of people who go through this experience that, and do find help? What have you tried so far? Practices, therapies, massage, books, talking to someone, reiki, etc, etc. What is “it” which is getting worse?

@Highest Love ya. Thank you!

@28 cm unbuffed What was it?

@28 cm unbuffed Makes great sense. Can you do this, though.... Remember something in the past, where you experienced happiness. Think of something in the future, where you would experience happiness. Really feel into the memory. Really feel into the thought about being happy in the future. Let me know once you’ve done this.

@28 cm unbuffed Remember something in the past, where you experienced happiness. Think of something in the future, where you would experience happiness. Really feel into the memory. Really feel into the thought about being happy in the future. Let me know once you’ve done this.

@Aeris Be very careful. If you look, you can see a consistent theme through out the forum, in a nutshell it is this; “If & when I have this (thing, life, person, object, experience) then I would be happy. Be very careful not to think true happiness can be found, or that it can come to you, be it from a person, sex, psychedelics, shiny things, money, status, power, etc, etc. This is The Trap. Looking outside of yourself for happiness is a very long and ultimately unfulfilling journey. Maybe you must take it, maybe not. Up to you. But, I promise you, every road leads back to you. That Trap, is why this forum is. That is The Map. You can take that journey, and you will likely experience many good feelings, and some not so good ones too, and both will teach you what you are. But you can see what you are, first - before the journey. And that journey, well, you’ll just have to see that for yourself. Words won’t do.

@28 cm unbuffed When is happiness experienced?

Initially, just be aware that what you experienced, changed your state - wether it was ‘bad or good’, just be aware that it did change your state. Then, sit, breathe from your stomach, relax head to toe, and contemplate how that happened - look into what happened - look at the process, the happening. Use music to cause this to happen, so you can experience the change, and investigate what is happening. Play a sad song and see that you become sad. Play an energetic song, and see that it ramps up your energy. Play a beautiful piece, like Chopin, etc, and see that it changed your state. Once you have inspected the happening, the clarity is present, and you will then be able to change your state at will, without any ‘tool’. There are imo, ultimately only two states; wanting love, and giving love. You can choose. Then, there is only one state, of no state. Love.

@Ingit If a gift is offered, but refused - to whom does it belong?

@andyjohnsonman For a few years now. Highly recommend the practice.

@Aeris Thank you! Just for the sake of clarity...the interaction shared was not intended for you, to be the water for her. In response to your post, how to really please a woman spiritually, the intention was an offering that you could help her see that she is the perfect water already. As in, without the rocks, she is already, and always has been, enough. (You too!)

@KMB4222 Really enjoyed reading your posts. ??

@SoonHei It’s not a flaw.

@Aeris Today a lady asked me if I won the lottery. I asked, what do you mean? She asked, why are you so happy? I told her, not knowing a long convo was coming, that basically I had got to the bottom of who I really am, and it has brought great joy into my living. She inquired more, so I asked her, have you inquired into yourself, into what you really are? She said no, she joked that it would probably keep her up at night. I asked, well, what do you think you are presently? She said I don’t know. I told her that her honesty was refreshing. I asked, if you readily admit that you don’t know what you are, then what makes you think it would ‘keep you up at night’, if you knew? She laughed and said, ya, you got a point there. I pointed out that maybe she has some beliefs that deep down, she wasn’t good. She then looked a little nervous. Interested, but nervous. I said picture a bathtub full of water. If you poured a glass of water into it, it would mix right in, and you wouldn’t even notice the water from the glass once it mixed into the water in the tub, right? She said ya. I said, but if you put a rock in the tub, it won’t mix, the rock would stay separated, right? She said ya. I explained to her, that when she thinks against herself, when she thinks negatively about herself, when she thinks she is anything less that love, anything less than beautiful and deserving of all things good - it doesn’t feel good. She agreed, she said no, it doesn’t feel good. I pointed out to her, that who she is, deep down inside, must be good, because when she holds a negative thought about her self, it doesn’t ‘mix’ - and the ‘not good’ feeling is how she knows it doesn’t mix - that the negative thought is like the rock, and that she is like the water.

♥️?? That I am a conscious man however, is not a feeling. It’s a thought. Love, is what we feel, is what “we” are. There is no thing to understand. You are understanding yourself. You are too amazing to be comprehended. I feel it though, and it is awesome.

@MiracleMan That’s lovely. Time is of the dream. The dream in not in time. Reality is not free of time and illusion, time and illusion are in fact reality - pristine, without a mark. Not a one of us will die, death is of the dream. A choir of laughter in revelation can not be, that infinite humor, is of One, just as you are now.

@Ketki I am not separate from that.

The One can not “take” anything. There is no “thing”. There is no “experience of duality”, that, is a thought, which you - awareness, are aware of. That thought, “duality”, would have to believed, taken as Truth, for there to be, “duality”. No thought is Truth, You are Truth. The thought, is you. The thought is not a separate “thing”, which can or can not be “believed”. “You” / “Nahm”, is Your abstraction, Your thought. There is no “Nahm”. There is no “suggestion”, there is no “becoming” - You are already “completely nondual” - complete, because You are “nondual” - One - THE One. There is no separate “you”, which “relates with” a separate “world. You are not a person who was born into a world. Look to your direct experience of being born, and you will find that cabinet is empty. There is no experience of you being born, because you were not born into a world. The world is within you.

Nonduality = not two.

Evil does not exist “from” the human’s point of view, evil is a thought, evil is the point of view. “I was not convinced” .....If you hold yourself to be this separate “ I “, then “it” of course, could never be “convinced” because the perception that “he” is making arguments against “your” current belief has been utilized by “you”, and has reinforced “your” current belief that “you” are other-than the “evil”. Notice the fragmentation & thinking involved in deducing, the “argument”, Leo, etc. Ya? Who would “One” be arguing with? Wouldn’t there inherently need to be “Two”, for there to be an argument? Are you One and love is this “other thing”, this “separate from you thing” which “someone else” argues with “you” about? What experience have you of reality “emerging out of” something else? “You” make the distinctions (big-small / feminine-masculine / black-white / hot-cold) - without the distinctions, is there still a “you”? ”all the things “we” perceive as negative”.... What experience have you of “we perceiving”? What was it like, perceiving from / as this “we”? What do “you” mean by “it”? What / who is, “it”? What is your direct experience of this - “making sense”? Who does some thing “make sense to”? What is this “neutral”, this “point zero” which is other-than, or, “instead of” love? Perhaps if you can not articulate and describe this “neutral / point zero”, then consider it is just a thought which keeps “you” separate from what “you’re observing”.