Nahm

I think that’s where you’re going wrong. You can’t focus on awareness, because you are awareness. Have you done meditation where you just breathe from your stomach, and when you notice your attention got “sucked into” thinking again....just return the attention to breathing from your stomach?

@Key Elements Either doing life purpose, or talking about it. I apologize if I implied ‘you have black & white thinking’. That is not my sentiment. The comment was not about you, it was about the topic on this page of the thread.

@Key Elements Seems like an either or to you. What is the work you are doing?

@How to be wise Ever had the experience where you totally knew something, knew about it, knew what it was & how it worked...and then later in life, a complete flip, a total revelation?

@Manjushri If there was a goose which laid golden eggs, which would you rather have - the goose, or the eggs?

IMO, that is the simple problem. You are trying to focus when (in terms of thoughts) you need to be letting go. Sounds to me like “I keep getting pulled into thought stories because I don’t know what else I’m supposed to be focusing on”. Yes?

@Truth Addict Feels like you want something, and are looking on the level of thinking, for what can not come to you on the level of thinking. Which is in itself a dilemma, because, how’s it going to come then? How’s an insight supposed to come, if you don’t think about it? How will you know about what is afterlife, if you don’t think about it? If you just ‘dropped it’, then you wouldn’t get anywhere with it. Any of that resonate?

@How to be wise Sure...but...how do you know that ‘thoughts come to you’ is not your experience, because you believe that?

@PT89 Yesterday, in meditation, my grandmother appeared in front of me with the biggest loving smile and asked if I wanted to see God‘s patience. I of course said yes. She put a rock between us. We both laughed our heads off in the infinite humor of non-duality, the infinite patience of God, being a ‘rock’. Suffering that led to meditation, which led to discovering the space between the thoughts, which led to discovering the guidance that is emotion, which led to discovering awareness, which led to the real-I-zation of intuition, synergy, synchronicity, etc, which led to without-thinking...Love - was a great teacher.

What is the sensation telling you about the thoughts chosen? Are ‘you’ listening? Keep in mind, the infinite intelligence at play (body). It’s definitly safe to surrender to it. See your hands. See the precision, what thought does that? None. You need not even look down for God to put the earth under every single footstep. Of what use could so much thinking be? Life is a delicious trust-fall. Fall in love with it. Trust.

@Hansu Did what you described just immediately play out?

@Marinus You’re right where you’re supposed to be. Do not wish it away (suffering). Find the barriers you have put in place, see you’ve been creating all along.

@mandyjw ?? @Wisebaxter The apparent duality of light (particle & wave) comes to mind, as something you might want to look into. (Pun intended) Specifically, why it “can’t be resolved”. Also, have you tried Reiki yet Bax? (Ray ‘light’, Key ‘love’) A couple sessions is one thing (great experience), but take the Reiki 1 and Reiki 2 classes. Take them together with that cutie of yours. You guys will love it. You’ll be quite surprised at the mystical experiences possible just being part of a group of practitioners of light & love. You have abilities you haven’t even imagined yet. To further entice you (muah ahhha)..... #2 of the 8 degrees of The Reiki 2 class....”Set aside your personal ego and personal will. People are free to hold onto illness as long as any part of them may wish. We can not always evaluate inner causes or the necessities of spirit.” Then....The 7 Universal Laws. Also, have you read @winterknight‘s book yet? Check it out. It’s wonderfully clear, and deeply insightful. A rare combo imo. I mention it here because in Reiki, you learn to do what WK refers to as Metaphorization, and then you experience someone else’s can actually arise and be experienced in your mind (though they might not even be aware of it themself). It’s truly outside of explanation and must be experienced. An entirely new dimension becomes available, 24/7. ♥️ “...Change a hawk, into a little white dove”.

Be emptying your mind via the practices. Notice what ‘hangs on’, notice how and why thought patterns ‘hang on’. In letting go of the thought patterns, sensations arise. There is where the deeper clarity is found, in accepting & understanding the sensations - in realizing the unification, the already-the-case unity becomes apparent. (And feels damn good btw)

Sort of. If infinite you is to experience other-than infinite you, the knowing of infinite has to be the first thing to go. If you were purple and know your purple ness, and wanted to experience others-than purple, you’d forget purple and actually believe you’re yellow, and that there is yellow. But when yellow is dropped, the yellow is realized to have always been purple, appearing as, yellow. From that realization, arises all the clarity one insight at a time, as to just how purple made it seem yellow. The absence of Love is a mirage. The absence of Self is a mirage. Look into the mirage (hate) and it’s actually Love / The Self.The illusionist cuts the lady in the box in half, and it’s quite exciting. But, ‘later’ it’s found, she was fine the whole time.

Yes! Also, this is what Reiki is all about. Go try it. ♥️

@legendary You have an understanding that the sensation you’re avoiding, is something to fear, so you fear the sensation. It never was something to fear. You literally made that up. That sensation is Big Love, always purifying you from this stubbornness, this deflection, etc. It is Truth, and it can not go on self diminishing adventures. You are free to go to negative town alone. Just don’t pay so coy as to why it feels bad. “Come, come, whoever you are, wanderer, worshiper, lover of leaving, it doesn't matter. Ours is not a caravan of despair. Come, even if you have broken your vow a hundred times. Come, come again, come. “ - Rumi You can come home too. That’s how I see it. You are free to see things however you want. Even if it isn’t working for you. You are that free. Man, someone must really love you, to allow that. The sensations were never something to avoid. So there is, in truth, no possibility of “failing at that”. There is no failure. You can love the shit out of yourself. Life is better, shitless.

@Ampresus We all love you! You can do this! Express that anger on paper. Get to the source of the suffering - who is that really, who is the one who suffers, this one you keep attributing all this suffering to? I think you’ve had enough suffering, and are ready. I can’t be as sure as you though. We’re all here for ya man. Know that. And there’s like 13,000 of us. That’s how I see anyways, and it is good.

There it is brother!!!!! Every single word of the rest of your post, is overthinking. There is no problem, and nothing is wrong it’s you at all. Just, maybe, admit you have been practicing overthinking, and negative self talk for so long, it actually seems like a problem now. It’s not a problem. The sensations are telling, let that shit go. The thought - “Done. Done with suffering. I can do this.” That’s the only one you needed. Clean eating, activity / exercise - surrender. You totally got this. I was there once too. I left so I could tell you, you can leave all that to. You’re on the right track now. Keep taking care of yourself. ♥️♥️♥️

@Mulky You are already fine, right now, as you sit ther - look around. You’re fine. My impression here, is you have made a sort of critical belief. You think you can’t let go, because you can’t trust. You think you can’t trust, because you can’t let go. You must see that the meanings, what “trust” and “letting go” mean to you, is only just what they mean to you. In Truth, they are identical. It sounds clear you have a calling for the outdoors, for nature. Can you get there now? Can you go outside for a few and just have a look up? Sounds silly maybe, but go see it. It’s beautiful. And starting today - no more beating up on yourself. It’s fine, how you are right now. It’s perfectly fine, you are exactly how you’re supposed to be. The trouble is thinking you’re not, and beating up on yourself. What person qualifies to judge you? What person has such perfect thinking? No such person. God is your love Mulky. You are thinking in ways about yourself, and your life, and the reason these perspectives you take don’t feel good, is simply because they’re not true. God, your love, is true, and it is not thinking about anything. Just loving you, patiently, waiting for you to stop this negative thinking. Crying is the medicine Mulky. If you’ve have enough suffering, enough of your negative self, and life, views - then the healing begins. In truth, the healing is always. Sometimes we get caught up in things. But go outside. Look. ♥️

@Juan Notice the simple sweetness in a single breath today Juan. It’s a gift. Notice, thoughts arise. And notice they get your attention. Bless them, and return your attention to what you’re experiencing; what is right in front of your that you are seeing. Note 10 details to yourself, then note 10 more that you didn’t notice before. Put attention on what you’re hearing, all around you. Identity, note, 5 sounds, and see if you are aware of the silence the sounds are transpiring in. Do this not as a practice, and not as a request from Nahm. Do this to relax, to give some of the thinking a break. Do this, only for you. Ok? Take time to sit, and relax. Mentally tell the crown of your head to let go. Feel the crown muscles relax and let go. Then move to your eye sockets, keep saying ‘let go’, until you feel the muscles relax and let go of their grip / tension. Then the jaw, the mouth, the cheek muscles, the neck, the back, the cloudless, the torso, the stomach, the hips, the thighs, the knees, the calves, the ankles the feet. Do this over and over for a few minutes or, for as long as it feels good. It’s going to be really important that you take this time just for you, if we are going to ‘work’ together - in your healing, ok? And when you sit, taking some time just for you - if any sensations arises which don’t feel good - then grab a pen & paper, and write out the feeling. Write a short story, where the character is experiencing this, and sharing with the reader, how it feels. Describe the feeling in any way you feel to, no one will ever read this (throw it away afterwards). After that, write down, in one phrase: “I would be happy, if ______________ were true.” Of course, if this help doesn’t feel right for you, no worries ? ♥️ Sending love & healing your way Juan.

@legendary Simply no longer avoid. Maybe stop speaking for everyone too. ??

What if ego death, enlightenment, physical death, semblance of ego, sense of separateness, and ‘surviving as form’, aren’t actual real “things”? What if all of that is of a dream, which you are dreaming? “This place is a dream, only a sleeper considers it real. Then death comes like dawn, and you wake up laughing at what you thought was your grief!” - Rumi (What if you are actually Rumi, pointing this out to you, but it is missed because you’re assuming ‘you’ are separate and alive, and “he” is “dead”?) If “physical” is a thought about a dream, and you realized there is no separation and no physical / realized the falsity in the thought “physical” - if that idea of physical was “seen through” - then would there ever by a “physical death”? Can the Truth of a delusion be realized as other than untrue? Consider, “Do I have any experience of death”? Or have I seen “physical things” doing “physical things”? Can you honestly say you have experienced separate physical things? Or have you experienced thoughts, sensations, perceptions of “physical things”? And is there a “you” - separate from - a “separate knower of”, thoughts, sensations, perception? ‘Don't you need some semblance of ego” What is “ego”? What really is “semblance”? What was a “semblance” of ego at age one? What is it while ‘you’ sleep? Did you “survive age one” via ego? Would you have “survived” age one, without the Love of “other people”? Which seems more real, really? Where is a “semblance of ego”, while Mandy is asleep, deep in a dream? Where is it then? Why is it, that truly, only you are enlightened? If that’s true, is there such a “thing”, as enlightenment, or is it all a dream?

@Juan Has anyone mentioned that generally speaking, 23 totally sucks? I hear you on having a trauma that needs to be barfed out, but just saying, almost everyone flirts with that rock bottom between 22-24. Did you know the brain is typically not even fully developed until 25 and change? Don’t be too married to how you’re seeing anything right now. In just two years, literally everything, you, the world, everything will seem totally different. If I might - we need to release that trauma man. It truly was not your fault. You deserve to be happy. It’s in the past, it I has passed. It’s over and done. You CAN let it go, it’s a matter of when someone or something “clicks”, and big release happens. I have a session for the next few hours, but other than that, message me anytime. I feel for you and want to help if I can. Maybe we could skype this weekend someone? If you’re comfortable with that, I promise I’m the most average boring dude, no biggie. I’ve talked with few people who said very much what you said lately and I have learned a little, and helped a little too. It seems the trauma get’s Turned into this “it”, and there’s some pretty rough sensation almost insisting there is something needs to be ‘realized’, or ‘figured out’, but every attempt never seems to get to the bottom of this ‘it’. If that sounds familiar, again, I sure would like to try and help you. Sending love & healing your way Juan ♥️