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@Mason Riggle Sensational. ?

@Mason Riggle Nice. Scrutinize, with respect to your inquiry regarding the self, the distinction between what is a sense / sensation, and what is a thought. The ‘answer’ is there.

Meditation’s working great. Don’t quit and don’t skip days. You’re unknowingly living life as two, because there is a sizable suppression. Scrutinize your post for self referential thinking. That’s a lot to carry, and you don’t have to anymore. You can start putting it down.

@Commodent Definitely daily morning meditation.

Mu!

@Michael569 Great work man. @Commodent Just the two cents...if you work out and don’t do lifting with a neck brace / weight, tension will go there naturally. Examine your posture too, see if your default is shoulders slanted forward, neck and head slanted forward. Move your shoulder back and see if it feels better to your neck. If it does, be mindful of that posture. If it’s severe, try a chiropractor. And...how about expressing and understanding that chronic tension. ??

Awesome thread Matt. ??

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Who cares.

@Tiny Nietzsche

Yes keep contemplating. Negative psychology is created in avoidance of sensations, defensively, protectively. The word negative is used, literally, defining that, it does not feel good, is not wanted. The sensations are what was determined to be what “is not wanted”. This can be countered by repetition of positive psychology. Relatively speaking, this is the thing to do. However, positive psychology is efforting, and the efforting is not sustainable, and is sooner or later intuitively recognized to be self limiting, and ultimately unsatisfying. Thus there is the return to sensation, to the guidance that it always was. In this journey, one faces the fact that they avoided the sensations to begin with. Having done so, many misunderstandings of self and world were created and repeated. To realize sensation was always Truth, was always guiding, is to realize, essentially, all the thinking was wrong. The journey of negative thinking, to positive thinking, sooner or later becomes the adventure into one’s self, the journey into no thinking, no mind. The art of letting go, the divinity of surrender. The “drug addict trying to get back to a previous high” brings about the idea of faith. The attempts to return to the heightened states are ultimately tiring and fleeting. In Truth there is no state which could feel better than you, free of attachment to states. That period of your life was, imo, incredibly valuable. You could say it is a sort of right of passage, a ticket into this place. The very means of realization that you, as is, and life, as is, is the greatest high. What is negative & positive is dualistic, twoness. You however, are The One. There are many impulses to avoid surrender. You are the sneakiest human being which has ever walked this earth. Do not attempt to outsmart yourself, you will only prolong the suffering and delay the purification. See what sensation is, see what fear is. You will be very glad. Be careful not to utilize contemplation os more thinking. Basic meditation, letting thoughts go, detaching, might be more intune with where you’re at in getting intune. The wonderful feelings that arise in doing so will far outweigh the previous “highs” you mentioned. That vibration is great for contemplation. To “extract” wisdom from source, it is ideal, necessary even, to be in vibrational proximity of source.

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@SriBhagwanYogi Awesome!

@matthew7 If you want to undo specific axioms, dualities, ask short, specific questions. Dispel of paragraphs of all too subtle intentions of being understood. Ask questions in brevity, in seeking to understand.

Serious Black.

@Keyhole Oh hell ya. ♥️

@Key Elements I think I hear what you’re saying but I’m not entirely sure.... It all just looks very different to me. I think his intention was clear, and his focus on helping sincere seekers along the path was clear as well. I don’t think he was interested in ‘genuinely realizing who’s awakening is deeper’. I don’t think he was interested in the ox pics, as much as he was in helping sincere seekers. I don’t think he was interested in your concept of life purpose, and seemed to be kind of, selflessly living his, in part by helping anyone he could, for free, with his free time, on this forum. It’s a very understandable difference of opinion, but Imo between his book, his site, and volunteering his time, he’s walking the walk of the Truth just fine. I’d even go so far as to say I recognize the source behind it, within him, very clearly. I think his comments where about the ox pics though, not about you. I don’t see where he dismissed or criticized you, but I can understand & respect if you feel that way. I would guess, he just wasn’t interested in what may have to him, appeared to amount to an awakening contest, which amounts to a waste of time for him. If my hunch is right, he’s got some respectable integrity - imo. I don’t know though, and I’m really not trying to speak for him. I also think sometimes, we cling to teachings, like the ox pics, life purpose, or even love itself, and in our clinging, we end up claiming, and potentially miss that other teachers are aware of Truth, but use an approach they feel is more conducive to those who have been mistreated, and asserted upon very unfairly in matters of love, and find love to add confusion to the path rather than aid in it. Some might have the foresight that love’s to come, in it’s own divine time, if you will. I am obviously a love drunk fool, so perhaps it’s easier to appreciate the variety, in terms of the intention behind different teaching styles. I also employ the Ralston / Winterknight approach with some of the people I meet with, in awareness of this sensitivity. Also, admittedly, I should have went with ‘don’t winterize me’. So obvious in hindsight.

@Key Elements lol. Don’t winter knight me too! ?

Pretty much. Imo, it can be helpful having an overview. Takes the sting out of it. Pick anything is the room....and say, “I am aware of the lamp”. Then, ask yourself, “is the lamp, within my awareness?” It must be within your awareness, if you can state you are aware of it. The “aware Of it “ is linguistic, it’s how we phrase to communicate. Notice that isn’t very actual or accurate. When you say “I am aware of the lamp” - break it down... I - This is actually a reference to yourself, which can’t be true. I can’t be aware of my self - because, I’m the awareness, of the thought....”I am aware of my self”. Write this phrase on your pad of paper... “ I am aware of my self” - then take a few deep breaths and relax, and ask - which one am I? The I which is aware - or the self? Sounds good to me! Even...more so... write the phrase on your pad of paper...” If there is not other it’s just God’s love”....take a lot of slow deep breaths and reeaalllyyy relax....and ask...which one am I then? (A hint - you are you bro. So you can’t be an other) ??♥️

Well maybe keep listening to the album, and see what you’re missing. You could also google things like Dave Matthews+charities, Farm Aid, Artists for a new South Africa, the Bama works fund, the green music group, habitat for humanity, kids wish network, live earth, MusiCares, the rape foundation, special Olympics, stand up to cancer...etc. Or just flat out tell us ‘what to do with awakening and how to apply it to life’.

Though thoughts about wanted will surely arise, it’s not about thinking. It’s about wanting, which is sensational. In large part, fear relates to self honesty and self expression. One way to go, is to surrender all attachments. Near impossible, if where you are is deep in the fear. Any other way to go, is to choose thoughts which feel good to you, and are aligned with what you write on your dream board that you wanted, and enjoy life & the synchronic, inexplicable unfolding of your dream. “I never was a kid with dreams” I’m 44 years old. I have businesses, houses, a wife, and three kids. That’s the cover story though, really. In Truth, I am just a kid with dreams.

“all I'm saying is, if you want to talk about awakening to enlightenment, there has to be strong communication between two ppl. It's not about dismissing and criticisms.” I agree that is not a ‘strong communication between two people’, but, what part is the dismissing? What part is the criticism?

@Key Elements ?♥️?? It is a great album. You might find correlation with the ox pics.

@Key Elements The whole album is fantastic in my opinion. I think you’ll love it. Listen to it a few times and read the lyrics very carefully. Let me know when you’re done, and I’ll ask you about it to establish your degree of enlightenment.

@Key Elements In the same sense you asked WK about his understanding of the Ox pics, I am asking you if you are understanding of the album ‘Before these crowded streets’. That’s all I’m asking. I don’t mean anything.