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@Nemo28 Indeed. What is this separation which exists in the sense?

What discernible separations remain there? ⬆️

@Nemo28 I’d look at that, and say what here is not a thought, not a perspective? What remains?

@Serotoninluv That’s some delicious juice right there. ⬆️ (According to some guy)

@SoonHei ♥️??

@CultivateLove ?? Feeling the love, thanks. It’s unfolding perfectly. (And just in case there’s any confusion at all, I forgot to add Marianne Williamson’s name to that quote.)

@wk197 The elusiveness is ultimately that there is nothing to grasp, because this is already the actuality. You just created this... this post... That wasn’t before it was. Now it is. What you do next, now that is. Intentions, desire, wanting, thoughts, none of these are excluded, none are separate of creation. These are the very means.

Right on, that’s precisely the point. A perspective is a perspective, awareness is aware of perspective. Perception is perception, consciousness is conscious of perception.Thought is thought, ’made of ’ infinite intelligence, awareness, consciousness... and infinite, unlimited being. It begins to sound like there are parts, pieces. The trinity comes to mind. The father, the son, & the Holy Ghost. You’re the son in this interpretation, God is the father, and ‘reality’ - thought, perception, sensation – is the Holy Ghost. If indeed there are not three, nor two, but One - then being, an infinite being, must indeed be The All That Is. You could say, you are already seeing and saying that you are detached from the thing you’re experiencing. Aware of it. Then, that no separation can be found. The ‘problem’ is, “I can’t possibly be that awesome.” You are though. There is no nonexistence. You so Are.

@Nemo28 You might say nothing changes, there is no nondual perspective / point of view. What perspective is not thought, perception, and sensation? What are these, absent the awareness of?

Unexplain duality.

We find ourselves in a world magically already underway, a bit like a new character on the set of a movie, and by the time we’re able to deduce a bit of what’s going on - we’re already up to speed on the program; acclimated & assimilated of, the ‘human, earth, physicality, me’, story, etc - the script. Then we start to notice the “script” of it, relative to, feelings. Then we start to see that the script, isn’t really written “out there”, but rather is being written - “in here”. The “script” has been running the show so to speak, running the feelings....but hold the phone! -I’m the author? Feelings aren’t like thoughts really, and an intuition in us, a feeling says, “hey...it’s time to flip the script...it’s time to start writing the story you want to live”. You might say, if we were to pick a single word as the fulcrum of this revelation, it would be matter. Initially, it seems like feeling, consciousness, love, ...are the product of matter, “obviously”. But that plot gets shot full of holes when the actor stops acting, and starts listening to feeling, to the real. Sooner or later, it is discovered, that ”it’s”, all relative. That what “matters”, is you, and what really matters, matters to you. You might also say all those bullets frozen in time, with the ‘wave of a hand’, are actually just the thoughts of Thomas Anderson, the ‘me’ of the script...that the author, the one - you - can just....(insert story you want here). There’s a scene, a changeover, awakening, in which One “walks right out of the machinery”.

@zeroISinfinity I feel for ya. I really do. But if absolute worth is in question, the worth of absolute is without question. Likewise, if it creates your reality, you create it’s reality. And of course source’s “perspective” is good, all conditions only end up here. That’s why such detours & deviations feel like poop. But you’re not supposed to hold it in. We’re not designed for that. Nor to sit and think about it. You just let It out, and clean yourself up. Take a few breaths and relax. There’s nothing to think about, nothing to worry about. Can’t solve a problem with the same consciousness holding on to it. All great dream board ammo.

@Beginner Mind How is more worthwhile than who. Try it.

@zeroISinfinity Worth considering...can & can’t, do & don’t, cheating & not, stuck & not, these are dualities, thoughts. I’m contemplating not creating right now, and creating the experience of contemplating not creating. If you want, or don’t want; you’re wanting what you want, or wanting what you don’t want. If you create, or don’t create; you’re aware you’re creating, or unaware you’re creating. Meanwhile...Source...: “Sure, yep, here ya go”. This can not be broken down into steps, because existence. “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”. - Geddy Lee

@tenta A comparison of scenarios might be helpful to draw out the differences: Creator A: Considers the starting places & success of other’s, what they’re up against and what they’ve overcome, and how hard they’ve worked to get to where they are. Creator B: Establishes what they want from where they’re at, focuses on enjoying each step of that journey, appreciates any help available from those who have found success in what they are interested in. Creator A: Has indirectly created a sense of self worth, via an idea of an identity as a ‘coder’, deriving their worth from the comparisons... “how good of a coder am I?” - but is actually referencing their own thoughts about others, not the actual experiential known experience of any other. If the comparison is favorable, Creator A feels good about the idea of who they are. If the comparison is unfavorable, Creator A feels bad about the idea of who they are. Is in competition with everyone involved in the comparisons. Has put the logical deduction & analysis, before how they feel. Creator B: Is not focused on comparison, is focused on what they want & discovering more of it, and is enjoying the process for the experience of it as it unfolds, of what they established they want. They see people who are successful in the their areas of interest as examples & resources of help. Does less ‘reinventing the wheel’, and more ‘standing on the shoulders of giants’, reaching heights of experience previously unimagined. Has put how they feel before any logical analysis.

@Surfingthewave ♥️

@TRUTHWITHCAPITALT Experientially, consciousness is expansive, and outside of backlashes, it doesn’t go back. It is hard to grasp the veil without it. There’s a few stages in there. If there’s any resentment feeling, or discord at all, direct that energy into your expansion. Try new things, things you like, things you want to check out and experience but haven’t yet. Think, slightly more sophisticated stuff, SP’d wise, just a step from wherever you’re at with experiences. New like minded people are there. For your old peeps, the golden rule is nobody cares what you know, until they know you care. And that’s just a nice thing to say. Really, just nobody cares. Until they care. Have fun uncovering the inclusive angles. Weave the commonality. I was talking with someone the other day, dedicated catholic, big heart, very close with God, but stuck & just couldn’t find the thorn. Was definitely tired of it though. It was effecting some things & relationships. Long story short, the hang up was the individual soul. He realized that he had a long held belief that God is judging him, and would ultimately do so upon his death. He said it must be so, because he knows there’s a soul. When asked what properties he would attribute to the soul, rather than the body which comes & goes, he said love for sure, and consciousness / awareness / presence. That the soul is a piece of God’s love that leaves, and may or may not be able to rejoin, essentially. Talking about our cell phones getting old, how the phones “claim the wifi” as theirs, cause it definitely seems to be the case to the phones, and about what happens to the wifi when the phones kick it, really connected some dots. He realized the emphasis the church puts on God punishing and judging, never felt right...and that’d they perhaps got some aspects wrong. The Gospel, as The Truth - The Good News, and The Holy Spirit as “The Wifi”, it all just clicked. It was a delightful experience of being for us both.

I’m always at a loss for which part is the best, but lately this part resonates, you? “Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.” It has seemed impossible at times, but I’ve found it to be true.

@zeroISinfinity It’s a gift, the present. Just a little something for yourself. Thank you btw. Do you even dream board bruh? Here’s a great song on how to handle all that....realizing what you want, things gelling, resistance, letting go, truth, and a great ending. Explains the language / survival thing perfectly imo. @perlita In the midwest, eastern time. Love to talk with ya. I’ll be starting in early December. Putting a website together, but in the meantime just send me a pm and we’ll schedule some time. ??

@zeroISinfinity “Ours is not a caravan of despair! Deep down, we’re all preparing for hippie chicks” - Rumi

@Surfingthewave ....sounds vaguely familiar.

@GabeN I’d suggest framing the experience of being you as a human up as a ‘your bubble’ of experience and your vibrational offering, getting it sound & high on the emotional scale. On a future trip, you might find yourself, in defiance of what is possible, outside this “bubble”...in, and more accurately as, nothingness. Not sure if this adds sense or takes away by adding more to concept, but that is a step to collective consciousness, which also is only experiential.

@Surfingthewave ?? I’m excited for your journey as well! Very understandable question. It might be helpful to break it down into steps, to see how trust fits in. Step one: Felt the inspiration, and the willingness, & got a dream board. This is the biggest, most challenging step - for some people, it can mean as many as four clicks on amazon. We do have a ‘guy on the inside’ at amazon on the forum now, if things get harry I’m sure he’d be happy to help out. (See, things are already working out for you) Step two: The experience of writing what you want on the board. The feeling in this, is the ‘juice’. The feeling of wanting, expressing & getting clearer on what you actually want, and the feeling of excitement that it is coming. Step three: Experiencing the unfolding of it, and nipping resistant thinking in the bud. “Receiving mode” as Abraham Hicks calls it. Witnessing the amazing synchronistic & downright miraculous ways it all starts coming, & enjoying the adventure. This can hardly be communicated, it must be experienced. That what you are wanting comes right out of the wood work, of what already is, is truly an amazing experience to behold. Life changing indeed. Resistant thoughts are those which do not feel good to you, relative to what you established that you are wanting. By choosing a better feeling thought, you feel better, you expressed & trusted feeling, and you aligned thinking with feeling...and are back to the ‘juice’ of creation - feeling good, and relishing in the unfolding. Overtime, it does get very clear, that your feelings were & are never wrong, and trusting them is never really in question. There is a shift to be acknowledged, a change in approach, in listening to, or, feeling - feeling, more so than trusting. You might think of the need to trust as that of a map or list of directions, vs, listening to the turn by turn navigation of realtime feeling. If it feels at all like you are giving up anything, such as logically deducing your next moves, analyzing data and making educated choices - think of this as an addition to that, rather than a replacement. This, will fall in nicely with that, and that with this. (Meditation every morning is ideal for all of the steps. Clarity, connection with feeling, creativity, focus on what you’re wanting, and the general awesomeness of letting resistant thoughts go.) If step three was surrender & trust, I’d do my best to suggest how. But step three is more about enjoying the unfolding, & awareness of resistant thoughts, just as they bud, and choosing a better feeling thought. You may very well end up in How-did-I-get-here-ville, but you’ll feel it every time, and you’ll have the hindsight clarity with regards to the initial resistant thought. You’ll aim to nip the buds, find yourself trimming branches, and be more aware next time for having experienced the feeling of discord (having ignored feeling) - and you’ll get really good at trimming when resistant thoughts are still just buds. After awhile, thought is so aligned with feeling, that you won’t have to trim anymore, and it is delightful. You’ll have a meta-hindsight-clarity, on how the thoughts were always of the feelings. So trust & surrender, in this case, are resistant thoughts...they are resistant thoughts arising, in resistance to doing step two - wanting. It can be a paradigm shift, from thinking through the how and then beginning - and trusting one’s logic - to coming from feeling, and receiving. Perhaps the greatest revelation of this process, is that reality is indeed magical, and you never really needed to know how a “step three” will go, to express what you really want in life. The trust discovered, is within yourself. (Ta-da) In a way, this is very much what is already and always has been underway, and at the same time it’s a new way of engaging reality, and of living life. It might be a change in how one is engaging with reality and living life, but over time it is more & more realized, that this is awareness of what has always been the case. We were all creators long before we got here. It could justifiably be said, that there is a legitimate question as to ”how did I create up to here, if I create my own reality? I don’t recall picking to be me or grow up in Materialtown, etc”. Those answers won’t come from thinking, or ‘figuring out’ either. They’ll come the exact same way- feeling good, letting resistant thoughts go by choosing a better feeling thought, and enjoying the unfolding of it right before your eyes. It all starts ‘clicking’, and insights come aplenty.

@cle103 lol. I was taking a shot at connecting The Light & The Voice.

@CultivateLove Any thoughts on the connection...how was the tension / contraction in the neck related to the ringing of the ears? How did relaxing the muscles stop the ringing? Thanks.