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@Jahmaine Maybe purpose, recognition, greatness, mastery, practicality and benefits weren’t on his mind at all. Just speculating of course.

@Chilli Awesome....yes...aaannnnndddd...the map is literally the territory. Lol. SOOOO sneaky!

@Chilli ??Sooooo sneaky!

@Chilli What if we say it’s a ‘fox” (instead of an ox)...and ‘you saw it’...is a testament to how sneaky the fox is. One second later, and a thought of separation is believed. You - saw - it. (Twoness). How sneaky right? Immediately conceptualized / duality-ized.

@Bill W Wanting X....doing this Y again though....not yet seeing how x is leading me to y. It is.

You didn’t. Infinity / God is unlimited, can “materialize” / “instantly manifest” anything...using only itself / infinity. However, infinity is consciousness, and fully knowing of itself...as such, every thing “materialized” is not any ‘thing’ materialized, but rather known as itself. So, you did the only thing you could do, to experience. From the perspective of that question, yes, the reason is because you’re infinite. All people, objects, circumstances, situations, definitions, etc....all arise simultaneously as the body mind / perspectives themselves. You can derive purpose, sure, and you are creating it of yourself, for yourself, by yourself. @Javfly33 One single linear stream of one-at-a-time arising thoughts - in appearance. One thought is “my mind”; believe that thought, or don’t. Another arising thought, “my body”, “me”, “I”. In any case, you are the awareness, aware of these thoughts. When thoughts are no longer believed....’awareness is aware of awareness’. This is already the case - as thoughts are nothing more than awareness.

Right on. The yin & yang symbol...nuts how it’s all “right there”, takes nothing, yet so much, to see.

Yes. He’s using memory / dogma, you’re using the idea of ‘you’. You’re fine man. Lot of relief and ‘progress’ in understanding and seeing first hand how you’re creating the suffering / basically short changing yourself out of the awesomeness & Goodness.

@wk197 Awesome. Yes, meditation makes it much easier to choose a better feeling thought, and also to allow intuition in. Careful not to short change yourself of the joy that is this journey, you certainly don’t need meditation. Maybe... what you need is contrast, so there can be experience... and what you want is to become aware of the meaning you’ve been assigning, to begin to see that you are. Also, you = now. Identical. The same. Notice, that as you are aware of arising thoughts...you are what’s aware of, thoughts. You are the awareness, transcendent, of thoughts - and anything they ever appear to imply about you. Thoughts arise only within you, thoughts arise only now. You might try the practice of ’the witness’, or ’observer mode’...just as much as is possible in your days...no reactions, just observance. This makes it easy to become aware of any reactions currently at play, and frees that surface thought layer of repetition. From there you notice voluntary thinking, and that’s a solid glimpse.

@Buba Well, those thoughts too. I was just asking if you were aware of the thoughts, and the coming & going of them. Finding out the answer on reincarnation, and moving forward from that pain, are really the same thing.

@Buba Are you aware of these thoughts?

@Bazooka Jesus Infinite Humor. ???

@Bno An additional perspective...in the from green to yellow vein...what can you share with me about the green views, which is other than your thoughts, perception, and sensation?

Thinking carried through the days which is of the nature of separation, is not transpiring in sleep. Upon awakening, the ‘facade’ of ‘ I am separate’ is resumed, and after awakening in the morning, in hindsight, we call that resuming , a ‘dream’.

@mandyjw ♥️? ?

Letting the thought go, one is free of it. This is done now, or not done now. “Often”, Nahm, should be, etc, all thoughts arising which can be let go. And there is just....

Because realizations fit in an empty cup.

@wk197 Indeed there is truth to what you say, but it points to a plain, simple truth rather than anything hard. You are indeed spiritually gifted, selfless, and loving. In fact everyone is, and our gifts fit together in absolute perfection, like a perfect perpetual puzzle which needs no solving. Give the dream board a try. To put it simply...it is like a car, in that the thought of a car, or the thought of driving a car somewhere...is really not at all like a car, or actually driving a car somewhere. It can seem like they are they same, but in having them both to compare, we find they are not so much the same.

The lane? How’s your diet? If I was suffering....would you offer any reason as to why I should continue suffering? Have you read much on the difference between pain & suffering, in the Buddhist traditional sense? Feel for ya man.

@remember You might have taken that the opposite way, or I said it wrong, not sure. ?? (leaves for Pub)

@Neph That’s a call only you can make, but I’d buckle down on the fundamentals of diet, fitness, cleaning up the thoughts, & meditation. Do some writing about feelings, discover the message the feelings are telling you....what perspective / worries you’re holding, what you’re resisting. The minute you do, and relax and let it go, you’ll start feeling better.

@fridjonk ??? @Neph I discovered how I was creating it, without noticing...around twenty years ago, and never a blip since. Get all the help you can, but also be aware there is the movement that you need something underlying, reinforcing. Godspeed, I know it’s definitely not a fun stage on the path. ?? ♥️ And mushrooms are mushrooms, drugs are what doctors recommend without even having tried it themselves.

The funnest, healing, exciting, amazing. ??

Pure consciousness forgets ➡️ experience ➡️ one-at-a-time-linear-stream of thoughts ➡️ reactionary ‘choices’ ➡️ ‘regular living’ ➡️ life asleep. The hero’s journey home, if you will. “Within”... ⬇️ thoughts...inspected, seen through...let go ⬇️ feelings...understood as intelligence, known as guidance. ⬇️ insights...falsities dispelled, truths revealed. ⬇️ intuition...emotional intelligence & guidance in life ⬇️ epiphanies ⬇️ realizations ⬇️ channeling, siddhis, healing, etc ⬇️ Self Realization...pure consciousness...awareness aware of awareness.

I truly don't want any of these things to be happening, so why approach them with love? Derive what you do want, line up with it, and watch it all unfold right before your eyes. What's the "benefit" of loving everything? The life you actually want. Feelings you have not yet known. Indeed, “The kingdom of heaven is within you” -Jesus Discover the unthinkable profundity of this reality changing truth.