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@Serotoninluv ?? This veils itself with itself as thought activity of other than this, or even other, or god, or me, or even veils.

Yes.

@The observer ♥️??

@The observer Interesting the projection of shame arises. Inspect that, see through it. Inspect with the finite mind, as the finite mind (be honest / be where you are) through the finite mind, as in, transcend the finite mind rather than settling for thoughts & idea’s. See what thought & idea is truly ‘made of’. Intellect can not go where it is presently claiming it is. The change of such a full & sincere inquiry & inspection, can not be spoken. One can only say this is the catalyst of the suffering, the ‘walls’ in ‘one’s life’. The dots can profoundly connect. Liberation. Glory, even, if you will. This, as it is, unfettered and untainted by the ‘bringing of a story’ to it. Love is bliss, appearing, allegedly. A wise man once said, “Infinite Love it is. Truth.”

@The observer It is true that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Of course, I say this in love. @Elshaddai “I saw leo talk in some of his videos on how love and truth are the same thing and this is a hard thing for me to understand. “Thing” is a thought. “Connection” is a thought. “Me” is a thought. If you look at most human beings and reality as a whole you will find very little love and alot of selfishness and cruelty. So is there even a connection there at all?” The “connection” is the veiling of truth via “what others will see”.

@SamueLSD Gotta see that one.

@Galyna ?

@Galyna ☺️ Other people are not a projection of your mind. Thinking there are not others will never make sense. Thought is of the finite mind. There are individuations of finite minds. To the degree you are thinking so, there are other finite minds. It’s not a matter of true or not, because that is also dualistic, thought ‘level’. If & when letting go next, know ahead of it that the true nature of thought is to come and go. To appear and disappear. The appearance is contingent upon being, like an engrossing movie is only possible by the screen. Notice you can ‘pause’...breathe...relax. There is the nondual perspective and the relative perspective. It is not a matter of one or the other, but knowing and distinguishing. The craving of the mind is the not knowing of how, of not understanding this. The not knowing of how precisely both perspectives are absolute. Don’t focus on the fallout of suffering, focus on the inquiry. This is an intimate place along the path indeed. The intellect empties the arsenal in demand of narrating the source of itself. The nuclear stories of depression, the grenades to others, to time, to relatives, to the uncertainty and fear of a loss, the missiles of ‘then fuck you fuck all and fuck my life too’. Pew pew pew. Pew pew pew. But you are always the realness, the true strength of the finite mind. There is nothing to do and forever to do it.

@LfcCharlie4 Planes Trains & automobiles. Meditation, inquiring self / reality, like how is there here if there is a thought. It’s all relative...up to you. Transcend the mind and you’ll see we can’t escape this mind blowing tripping balls ecstasy. Woke. Imagine going somewhere but before you get there where you were didn’t exist and where you are going is contingent upon where you came from. Yes but in truth there is no actuality to that comparison. What appears to forget simply forgets to appear. Thought is only a pointer to feel this.

@LfcCharlie4

It is infinitely more radical than anything you’ve yet considered or could ever imagine.

Consider what doesn’t feel good to you, is your own perspective. You’re already in control.

Even if the sky is raining fire, even if hell is at your door, even if you can not readily see the way - believe in yourself.

@kagaria Imagine noticing the difference between what you are directly aware of, and what you are not.

This place is your self created world. “Life” is not the actuality. Now is. We aren’t. You are. But ‘you’ are appearing as a ‘you’, misinterpreting experience, and missing the profundity of actuality. You’re hilarious in this way. If you think the sun is blue you recognize the delusion rather immediately. When you think ‘nothing’, the delusion is not as obvious & apparent. This is only because what is apparent is entirely obvious & all encompassing. Don’t believe everything you see, or you’ll miss nothing entirely.

@Nak Khid This is the truth.

Truth is not a belief. That’s like saying the thought of going to Mars is accurately a very close thing to actUALLY GOING TO MARS! @Jacobsrw ?

@Someone here Everyone, and everything, is always telling you. It’s the song of the birds & the punchline we breath, & “you tell me” enslaves it all. Quantum mechanics is understandable, yet someone here can not. What appears theoretical is the grail of intimacy. Absolutely unreachable, yet beyond the traverse of the meta. Just a sign pointing to intuition, a symbol to go and see yourself. What’s one more chirp. I hear ya. Maybe in another life. Maybe not.

And what’s a “probability wave function”?

Notice projection. (Or don’t) There’s no pushing, this is your thread, your inquiry, about disproving solipsism, which can’t be disproved because it’s already only a belief. Quantum mechanics is not new, it’s a hundred years old. You, are a hundred years behind contemporary science. Quantum mechanics is inseparable from physics. It is a deeper scrutiny, a more acute inspection, of the very same. By saying you are not qualified to speak about it, you divert & deflect. You use qualification, to disqualify, yourself. To have a ‘good idea what these scientists are talking about’ - think about it, inspect, scrutinize your existing beliefs held. What are electrons & protons made of?

@Someone here Nice. Fair enough. What is the consensus of scientists, regarding what atoms are made of?

@Dand The assumption is that there is presently a you understanding something. Tripping balls and sober are an apparent duality.

Notice how you deflect to science (which doesn’t say anything because it’s a subject, not an entity) and what Leo says. Try thinking for yourself. What are atoms made of?

@justfortoday Awesome insights. Incredibly close. Be careful as it sounds a couple degree’s toward solipsism. See through the “frames”, “other”, “eye holes” & “dimensionality” aspects.

@billiesimon By syncing the hemispheres of the brain and ‘seeing through’ (knowing) oscillation & non, or “awake” & “sleep”. The important part is not analyzing the dream upon awakening, but letting all of the emotion subside, raising the frequency (aka mood), and then interpreting the dream as a simple unitary message. The less variance in frequency, the clearer the interpretation. The correlation between the pain & tension experience is directly equal & opposite to the message of (receiving the message of) the dreams. Also, and please don’t take this personally...if that attitude / perspective arises “it’s hard to interpret”, just ‘cut through it’. Immediately ‘tell yourself’ - it’s simple, straightforward & obvious. Don’t allow any believing of the ‘it’s hard’ perspective. Don’t create it. This is like wiping mud across a lens just as you are trying to look through it.