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@Ibgdrgnxxv That’s a really great answer. I can see that too. It makes me curious on your perspective on the earlier question... would you agree that when all beliefs and dogmas are let go, only The Truth remains? Further even, I mean to include the belief that there is a God, in the sense that if not of direct experience, it’s a belief. What’s your take on that?

@louhad Pursuing enlightenment could be said to be something you’ve been doing since the day you were born, and are doing 24/7, rather than a choice or a plan. Perhaps the only thing is question is wether one is conscious of this or not. The not, tends to look like repetition of reactionary behavior, blame, judgement, arrogance, frustration, resentment, anger, guilt, shame, etc (suffering). The conscious looks like responsibility, self accountability, listening to feeling instead of repeating the same thoughts, beliefs and perspectives. You can consider, you would never consciously choose to feel not good. So if you feel not good, it can be deduced you are not conscious that you are choosing to feel not good (if you don’t blame an outside source that is). The more one slows down and takes responsibility for how they feel and what they’re thinking and choosing, the more one realizes that is always going on. The thoughts about one’s self in a past or future which are “problematic”, as in inhibiting to create the life dream they desire to create, would be the not good feeling thoughts. If one is attested I’ve enough to this, one begins to glimpse that there is not past or future, only this apparent moment ‘now’. So one realizes, conscious creating is indeed binary. It is now, and one is conscious or not, now. Think about it in the simplest sense...have you ever experienced not-now? Have you ever been not-here? Have you ever experienced not-relative? Then maybe consider, would you yourself choose to be led by one in reactionary behavior, blame, judgement, arrogance, frustration, resentment, anger, guilt, shame - suffering? Then just smile and feel the love that you are, the leader you already are, and see it in everyone else to, wether they’re conscious now or feeling not good and reacting.

Mystical causes is an oxymoron.

@Someone here Cool. It’s your omelette my man.

That is a literal example of what you were just told happening, right under your nose. The intention is to be correct that there is no self. The sacrifice is expanding beyond no self. The means is the reaction, the ‘cling’. There’s a solid reasoning folks don’t call it No Self Realization. Realizing there is no Santa is not realizing how the presents end up under the tree.

@Consept I think I hear ya on that. Sometimes I think it’s more of the reverse though. Often people see what they believe and don’t see the actuality of people having conspired. Kind of old news though. People just figured out to make the laws instead.

Reality = you. You don’t seem boring and practical to me.

Benefits of crying People may try to suppress tears if they see them as a sign of weakness, but science suggests that doing so could mean missing out on a range of benefits. Researchers have found that crying: 1. Has a soothing effect Self-soothing is when people: regulate their own emotions calm themselves reduce their own distress A 2014 study found that crying may have a direct, self-soothing effect on people. The study explained how crying activates the parasympathetic nervous system (PNS), which helps people relax. 2. Gets support from others As well as helping people self-soothe, crying can help people get support from others around them. As this 2016 study explains, crying is primarily an attachment behavior, as it rallies support from the people around us. This is known as an interpersonal or social benefit. 3. Helps to relieve pain Research has found that in addition to being self-soothing, shedding emotional tears releases oxytocin and endorphins. These chemicals make people feel good and may also ease both physical and emotional pain. In this way, crying can help reduce pain and promote a sense of well-being. 4. Enhances mood Crying may help lift people’s spirits and make them feel better. As well as relieving pain, oxytocin and endorphins can help improve mood. This is why they are often known as “feel good” chemicals. 5. Releases toxins and relieves stress When humans cry in response to stress, their tears contain a number of stress hormones and other chemicals. Researchers believe that crying could reduce the levels of these chemicals in the body, which could, in turn, reduce stress. More research is needed into this area, however, to confirm this. 6. Aids sleep A small study in 2015 found that crying can help babies sleep better. Whether crying has the same sleep-enhancing effect on adults is yet to be researched. However, it follows that the calming, mood-enhancing, and pain-relieving effects of crying above may help a person fall asleep more easily. 7. Fights bacteria Crying helps to kill bacteria and keep the eyes clean as tears contain a fluid called lysozyme. A 2011 study found that lysozyme had such powerful antimicrobial properties that it could even help to reduce risks presented by bioterror agents, such as anthrax. 8. Improves vision Basal tears, which are released every time a person blinks, help to keep the eyes moist and prevent mucous membranes from drying out.

@Preety_India ? You’re ‘grabbing this by the reigns’ and I’m very happy for you. ? You’re quite a beautiful creator, you know?

The ‘link’ is believing thoughts, rather than the feeling.

Yep, perfect, that’s all there is to it, let thinking go. Ah crap, you didn’t let thinking go, you believed the thought narrative about the feeling. Ya bamboozled yourself. And that is how that feels when you do that. Two things that can be tough to hear: Daily morning meditation will change your entire life for the better, with no end to the feeling better and better. If there is judgement, it’s you doing it. Just like fear.

That is a great realization. Here = “where to go”. That’s why there’s no where to go, you’re already here. We’re creating this / here, as we go. What if for there to be Disneyland you have to be it? And in being it, you forget who you are (cause you’re being Disneyland)? Then what if you remembered? You’d pretty much enjoy Disneyland, help other patrons to, and do what you can to make Disneyland better. It’ll never be done, because you’re infinity, but forgot your infinitude. You’re unconditional, but forgot in appearing as conditions, which are an appearance. Why do you think that way (which doesn’t even feel good to you)? Listen to the frustration, here the message in regard to your thinking, and then the frustration disappears. If there is a we and love, you are powerless. If there is not, you are the greater force. If you do listen to feeling, it walks you directly home to the love giving the messages. The ‘greater force’. It’s ‘the greater force’, the ‘underlying bond’ - the fabric of reality. Exactly!

It’s a joke to a female I know personally. I can assure she got the joke which you did not. For you it might be ‘marriage humor’ not yet in the radar. @Ibgdrgnxxv What if you were raised in Wyoming, and never heard of Islam?

When something weighs heavy on my heart, I listen to the heart and let it go, because it’s a perspective in conflict with Truth. The last thing I’d do is focus on it, share it, etc. It’s like “this food tastes like poop...I better keep eating it and share it with others so they can taste this poop”. No self no problem. How can you be experiencing a problem right now, without perpetuating that story which is ‘itself’ the creating of the problem? Awakening can’t possibly be what you are thinking it is, as you’re the awareness of the thoughts, and more importantly, the focus. Let go of the wanting others to see you as that awakened / enlightened person, and you have no more suffering from telling the story about you, the awakened one with all the awakened experiences. Your threads are great, your comments are great. I always enjoy them, it’s deep and I like it, and am interested. In this regard however, it’s “if y’all really wanna taste this poop you gotta know the story behind it!”, but the back story recreates a ‘you’ the story is about, and you & the story are the recreation of the poop, evidenced by how it feels / tastes (suffering). If there were a subject and object, you being the subject and depression being the object....then maybe, you could fall into it. If there is not a subject & object, but rather awareness aware of a perspective which is not believed to be a separate object, then there is the opportunity to change the perspective, simply because it doesn’t feel good. Nihilism & solipsism are not love, they are perspectives about a you which is alone. It is far, far easier (effortless literally) to inspect and realize what you got wrong in your metaphysical understandings, than to continue suffering through being right. Only the separate self suffers, as that is what suffering is. Notice that’s a story. That situation is not unique to ‘you’ like ‘you’ believe it is. There isn’t a problem in the first place, sans resistance of letting a perspective go. Only in refuting this, there is a problem, which is ‘especially’ tricky to manage. “I realized nothing...struggling to manage it”. Gotta laugh at these perspectives rather than let them get you down / ignore that they don’t resonate. Consciousness didn’t need improvement to begin with. It’s (you’re) perfect already...and just entertaining some terrible feeling perspectives. “The main problem I’m having is that “I’m” alone...so...I’ll listen to what others think and how they size things up instead of the intrinsic inseparable love that I always am...which is loudly saying - No!”. Let go of that there is individual someone’s, and you realize understanding is an appearance. It is you. Only in perpetuating the separate selves, can there be the perspective “no one understands...”. All that need be understood, is that is you creating suffering. The need to be understood. You can feel right now the sweet peace of not needing to be understood, by noticing there is not understanding and a separate you. You can not see what is seen. (There’s now, not a past you think you saw). Look in front of you now. That is what is seen. What you really mean, is I can’t unknow what I know. The suffering, is what you believe you know. In short...”I know the Truth is that this sucks”. Wrong...evidence onced again, by feeling. Right. It must be ‘the path’s fault’...because it can’t possibly simply be the current perspective...cause “you’re” “right”. Love you! Wish you Well! ♥️ Let Love pop “you’re” bubble, and it will be so. Some perspectives feel as there do, because Love does not taste this poop. Love does not go with you to the poop trough.

Conspiracy: An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act. A group of conspirators. An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action. That is all that a conspiracy is. Two or more humans breaking a law. Conspiracy is not “stories about aliens”, or “the truth of 911”, etc, etc, etc. If two people conspired together and broke a law, that is a conspiracy. It could not possibly be more practical and less fantastical.

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If there’s a separate self then yes indeed, there is no sense in it, and one deluded oneself via the claiming of the knowing / knowledge (as if it were an object possessed by a subject). If there isn’t a separate self, and you = knowingness, then knowing you are the knowing and not ‘the person’ is the most practical ‘thing’ that could possibly be known (yourself) and you are liberated from the prison of knowing, via the knowing you are not knowing (specifically, ‘objects’). Put another way, the most common ‘error’ (relatively) isn’t what is known or unknown, or even what is knowing or not knowing...but the believing there is something to be known, which is not / or is other than, what is already direct experience. (Such as ‘not knowing “the truth”)

@Conscious life We don’t.

The difference is that on lsd you’re more being yourself than thinking about “yourself”. None of these things you think about yourself are true, and believing and repeating negative self talk is self defeating, and world shaping... At some point you have to begin to notice you’re doing what you’re saying is the problem. If any of these beliefs about yourself resonated with yourself, they would feel wonderful, like you are (you: that which beliefs, thoughts, and perspectives are, or are not, resonating with.) It is difficult, I will admit that, and I am very sorry to be the one to inform you of this, but to feel good, you have to think well of yourself...literally because of the actuality of your awesomeness, the truth which beliefs aren’t resonating with. You simply must know more love. It does not matter what, just love. Momentum builds. You’ll be feeling like your ‘old self’ in no time.

Wouldn’t maximum fulfillment be doing what you most want to do? Only you could define that. It will change in many ways many times. Wouldn’t what you want most come from the feeling that is the wanting? Desire, if you will. What else is needed? Clarity? Seeing it from a higher vantage point? Does the source of feeling, and the experience of feeling, come from anyone else? Is this stuff on a dreamboard in front of you, so you can experience that vantage point? And change it as you desire so? And see that new desire incorporated, from that vantage point?

Life. Just being you. This must be true, as it is absolute that you are you, and there isn’t another scenario.

@28 cm unbuffed You don’t actually need any of it. That belief about yourself is like a filter tarnishing perspectives, spinning your wheels and getting nowhere, zapping your creativity. Come to terms with that what you have is actually what you want, by letting conditioned judgmental perspectives go, simply because it feels good to let go of limiting beliefs. There is no getting out from behind perspective, and it is influencing your entire experience not to notice this. Society inherently can not have a brainwashing and materialistic lifestyle. You are the subject you, only. You could be a billionaire, in this lifetime, without being brainwashed or materialistic. That’s your belief & judgement, of the very thing, the very society and money, you say you need. But when you come to terms with that you honestly want that (money - not brainwashing & materialism), then you’ve aligned with what you want, and thus ‘gotten out of your own way’, and will indeed experience what you want. Beliefs and judgements about money & society, which are ultimately and presently beliefs & judgements about yourself, will not feel good, and are you ‘getting in your own way’. ‘I can't really find a match to my interests and lifestyle in society.’ ...through the lens of ruling it out.

If you were to believe in a future and past you would identify as the object moving through time which has the future and past, and will in a way feel the discord of the misidentification, or, sad. If you were not to believe in a future & past, and not be identified as an object moving through time, you would feel liberated.

No. It’s a thought about yourself. Which can’t be true, or you, because you’re the awareness of it. It’s a certain mentality that could use some illumination, love and purification. Psych’s come to mind. Loa works for that too. I am sorry to here that about your mom. Hard to imagine the suffering of a woman who can’t even find her way to expressing the love she has for her own son. I do not envy that experience. I am sorry for you as well and the impact that had on your experience. If we named the ten greatest creators of all time off the top of our heads, I’d bet you 9 of them realized tremendous pain into beauty. (Really ten but I’m nicing it up for you)

Mania is a narrative. The Truth (psych’s) tend to show The Truth to The Truth. Then the ‘hangover’ tends to be awareness of the falsities held, relative to the previous experience of The Truth. Integration and embodiment, are spiritual vernacular for what in the dualistic psychological paradigm is referred to as mania, psychosis, etc. The difference could be said to be getting sucked into a narrative, or not. More personally speaking, if you felt you needed to go to the hospital, I’m glad you went. Had you started small and increased your dose / depth incrementally, the relativity of the falsity would have been more nominal, and not so hospital level heavy. And yet, some people want that ‘too big dose’, and want to breathe & ball through that purification. I favor the more conservative no rush approach.