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@electroBeam Yyyyep.

An insight from a chat today that might be useful regarding meditation and horseshit. There’s nothing wrong with a quick morning meditation, to let thought activity settle, get in touch with feeling, etc. Yet, calling this meditation is comparable to calling a wink, sex. Meditation is truly, really, the end. There’s not going to be anymore you and your roles, your gender, your preferences, your stuff to do, a ‘reality’, an ‘experience’, etc. That’s all done now, it’s all over. Hopefully you enjoyed it, because this is the actual end of everything. Whatever could be said to be left of you dissolves into the void of nothingness and that’s it, show’s over. Nothing happens “next”, no one ‘comes back’ with ‘benefits’ to ‘live a life’. All horseshit. ?

The contradiction is the claim, which in & of itself debunks the actuality of the claim. As to levels of absolute, the tongue can not taste itself.

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@Someone here ...And thus it seems so. ?

@ChickenFeathers Appreciate your service ??. Very relatable. Catholicism & coping go hand & hand, like peaks & valleys of a roller coaster. The beliefs & forcing of authority don’t resonate, but they are believed, internalized & identified with...and coped with. Odds are your entire families have been coping their entire lives and do not know otherwise, because they refuse to let beliefs go. Essentially they are choosing to be right rather then feel amazing (creating suffering). My two cents would be instead of educating the kids spiritually, spot any coping, and teach them inspecting direct experience to uproot that which they believe to be true but is not actual, the “cause” of the belief they ‘must cope’ with. They’ve already learned / mirrored the behaviors, but do not yet have the core beliefs behind it. You might say this is indirectly teaching letting go, in comparison with dogma, be it religious, spiritual, or parental personal bias. Just an opinion, again from a very relatable experience...your wife probably doesn’t resonate with verbiage like “consciousness work” because it’s a false basis. ‘How swift can we let go of what doesn’t resonate’ with us, and therefore recognize & get back to that we are always creating...might resonate. An individual Dreamboard , as well as one you both use as a couple, creating consciously together, makes this incredibly easy. (Letting crap go is the key). Why let this crap go right now? One look at the board answers this. Because what you want, and what you don’t. Easy. Peasy. There is no ‘thinking’ in between, so to speak. Engaged in creating in this manor, does the work for you, you might say. The ‘Worldwide MultiBillion Dollar Catholicism Religion’ is naturally seen to be one’s own beliefs and nothing more. When what you write on the board is showing up in reality, the speed bumps of belief & dogma, (the suffering), and the limitation it is on your creating what you both actually most want, becomes plain as day. And is let go, more and more swiftly. Ultimately, it’s just a pass through, a witnessing of a coming & going. Without reaction, there is no call for coping. Eventually, there isn’t even the passing through of the ‘resistance’. Quality of life, like consciousness, goes way way up - all on it’s own. Trying to “do the consciousness work” assumes the basis consciousness needs work, or a separate self needs ‘more consciousness’ or ‘higher consciousness’. Recognize the obvious ignorance of “I need to work on infinite consciousness”. It does not make sense, does not resonate, does not feel good in ‘soul’, only in egoic righteousness...which of course has it’s coping. “The work”, in truth, is not work, it is effortlessness. Letting go. The non. Don’t replace one person’s dogma with another person’s dogma. I would also consider what you ‘should’ not do, for her benefit, which would be preventing her from fully feeling, including the micro day to day fall outs, from the continual holding of the dogma. Careful not to ‘cope her’. Here’s some family friendly Meditations. They are the ‘other than thinking’. The source is accessible to every one. No one has higher or more access. Consider the practicality of this. One of my kids calls the other “stupid”...and then is told to write five things they love about their “stupid sister”. Lol. Source is so Good. ☺️

@Someone here There is no difference while thinking there is. ?

@erik8lrl So well said. ??

@PurpleTree We can definitely see auras. Look at your hand, considering hand is a thought label, like seeing, and the experience is actually Mind. That there is a hand there separate from air is not actually true. The ‘thoughts’ are ‘made of’ the same Mind as ‘the hand’, ‘seeing’, etc.

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@Kyle Gjerseth What do you want? Anything that comes to mind. Things, experiences, etc. Anything. What do you want? Not on anyone’s behalf, just your own. What do you want?

You can always get checked out by a doctor of course, otherwise the head tension is from holding onto beliefs & perspectives which won’t jive with feeling. The tension is the resistance / the holding onto what you don’t agree with / what doesn’t resonate. The thought might arise ‘but I don’t know what beliefs & perspectives I’m holding that don’t feel good’. Let that thought come & go, and feel. When you don’t like how you feel, stop and write about what you’re thinkin. Get it in front of the eyes so you can see it, so to speak. A belief about yourself is a condition. You are actually unconditional. Feeling better is accomplished via letting go of your conditions. When conditions are not held, the unconditional true nature is no longer obscured, and feels great. Emotional intelligence. Discovering the beliefs & perspectives which don’t feel good to you, and letting them go. Using the emotional scale as a reference can be useful. There might also be the belief ‘something is wrong with me’. Then the belief ‘how I feel is not due to beliefs & perspectives’. Then the belief ‘I need x or I won’t feel better’. Feeling better is the result of letting what doesn’t feel good to you, go. When the beliefs & perspectives which don’t resonate are let go, what is is found to be, great. What you want, is good feeling. Imagine if what you wanted was water, and each time you were a few steps from the fountain - you bailed, and asked about how to get water. This would result in tension of the head after a while. Instead, relax the body, and breathe. Feel whatever arises. Continue to relax, and breathe. Focus on seeing, hearing, feeling. Allow emotions and thoughts to come and go. Don’t suppress, don’t avoid, don’t fear, don’t react to thoughts about feeling....just relax, breathe, and gently focus on seeing, hearing, & feeling.

?‍♂️ Is not. Not is. There is no you in Nonduality. There is no separation in Nonduality. There is no appearance in Nonduality. There is no dream in Nonduality.

Appearance, not plural, and not even. Appearance doesn’t do (write). No. No.

Indeed. Does the devil, the zen devil, or zen devilry exist, absent of you saying it does?

@Conscious life Does the devil, the zen devil, or zen devilry exist, absent of you saying it does?

That belief, that you are the one who has the truth, and keeps it for ‘itself’ isn’t resonating with the truth that you are, but will never have.

Nothing. As a concession...knowing nothing, not knowing, knowing there is nothing to know, knowing nothing is known. A remnant of a questionable memory of sorts, that there was a you and something that happened, which dissipates into nothingness like a forgotten dream. Nothing. Direct experience, of no experience, such as a self, reality, knowledge, etc, is as close as a pointer gets, arguably, apparently.

@Someone here Infinite ways is nothing. Contemplate, if interested...self actualization, is the realization ‘self’ is nothing. What would there be for infinite nothing....to know? Nothing. Nothing can not be validated, or de-validated, because it’s nothing...no one to do so. No one gets off the carousel of thinking. (A not-too-shabby title call back ?)

Let the paradigm of levels & claiming of intelligence go. Then it is readily seen that ‘body’ is a thought, or a separate thing. Subject (you) objects (what ‘you’ uses). That is only apparent in thinking. There isn’t. This is thought attachment. Subject (I) causation (can see) object (them). That only appears to transpire in thinking. It is not “out here”, so to speak. Labels are great for communicating in a dream. Believing the labels are the things, is missing the dream.

@Someone here ? Without the carving out of the separate things (food, water, air), which support the separate me, there’s no causations, no determinism, no survival. The separate things are thoughts of separate things, and the thoughts appear & disappear, and are not actually things. Without the monkey mind of causation, determinism, survival and the separate self, it begins to be recognized there is a whole of experience, one “substance” of dream. An appearance inseparable of the awareness of “it”.

Body is a thought. Functioning is a thought. These thoughts appear. What these thoughts appear to be about, is the very same appearance. Someone agreeing is irrelevant. Inspecting & bringing an end to the believing of thoughts is relevant. Being attentive to what one is presently inattentive to is ample. It’s not about the communication of the doing of it. Those are thoughts. There is not a teeth and a me and a you and a universe. Yes, it’s true. The ‘you’ accredited is bs. (“It’s” just another “thought”).

@Heart of Space ?? For anyone interested...a list of meditations.

@zeroISinfinity Non-do.

This is a subject object causal thought narrative. That there is a body functioning. ‘Sense of being a self’ is a poor term. Thought narrative of being a body, or self, is more accurate.