Nahm

The wheel isn’t a place or thing, it is thought attachment, and it persists only by the aversion of the practice which would otherwise result in cessation of thought attachment. Thought attachment is averted via believing ‘one’s own’ intellectualizing, conceptualizing, justifying & rationalizing, namely in matters of objectifying people to fulfill ‘one’s own’ egoic impulses, vs utilization of the practice to see that these are illusory, in that they are fleeting and come & go. Yes, but to the extent there is no such thing as ‘we’ or ‘incarnations’, or even ‘single’ or ‘consciousness’. There is no actuality of a you, people, or others in a world. This is already within the enlightened one. But thought attachment, and the conjecture of ‘conceptualizing aversion away’ makes it seem so, keeps one asleep if you will.

@Someone here Check out The Nature of Consciousness by Rupert Spira.

@Neph I completely understand and can totally help you with this. Reach out anytime, links below.

Godspeed on your path ??

There isn’t AI and consciousness, just infinite consciousness. There is not infinite consciousness and this other thing… AI. Materialism doesn’t ‘say’ anything. It’s a belief in separate material things, and it is only a belief. There is only to notice you are saying this, and it is the expression of a belief. This can be interpreted as not a pointing to truth, but a personal negation. Up to you to ‘catch’ / notice, that projection or not. Are you aware? Yes. Are you aware that you are aware? Yes. Can you name something else (such as a self-aware robot) which is aware? No. The foundational belief of the consideration as to wether a robot can have perception, is that there is a separate self, a “you”, which has perception. There is no actuality to “understanding of consciousness”. There is only the belief in a separate self, as the understander. ’For those with two good ears’…. Thought. Perception. Sensation. And conjecture at every turn.

There. Is. No. Thinker.

Relationship is great for consciously creating together and sharing in the experiences therein. Communion is for all matters of how you feel and is intrinsically a relinquishing of all commitment and expectation in regard to the relationship. A mine, theirs and ours dreamboard makes this easy.

The result of higher consciousness is a dogma.

How to stop pedestalizing? Are you aware? Are you aware that you are aware? Name anything else at all which has the property of being aware. As assumptions arise, check direct experience, and let those thoughts pass on. Now notice the ‘me’ of ‘important to me’ & ‘special to me’, is a thought, and let it pass on as well. Technically it’s just the beliefs held on a pedestal.

@Someone here Even sentience is going to far.

@Someone here Consciousness is neither a byproduct nor a facet, consciousness is conscious of these thoughts in direct experience… isn’t it so?

The whole mindset is just sad and void of integrity. Reminds me of before stalking laws were made.

The discord is with the thoughts, with yourself. Beliefs. Desperate and creepy is just the way you’re going about it. If desperate and creepy were indicative of you, you’d feel perfectly aligned.

@Someone here Well hopefully that happens, as well as rockets to Mars and getting to the bottom of the ocean. Maybe will all go full circle realizing creation, experience in and of itself is the whole point, and then maybe will stop killing each other. Or will have a matrix/machine situation. Exciting either way.

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What they love. If that’s put first in the first place, one is magnetic, and there is no need for the objectifying & conceptualizing, and rumination therein. One could also study special & general relativity. One can also utilize the emotional scale, to reveal the frustration is with the thoughts, and not a world or situation. Thought is infinitely sneaky, but consciousness is infinitely wise, and thus aversion (Traps) can be noticed within framing like ‘their life’. Then there can be the same recognition in regard to pessimism. But of course don’t stop there.

@Nadosa Yep! Infinite intelligence: I’ll go fourth, and right outta the gate I’ll get a big dose of selflessness, and this will inspire desires & dreams like never before, and I’ll write em on the dreamboard, and I will be and fulfill them all! I will trust in myself! Ego: Oh hell no, fuck all this, what a rip off. I don’t have time for this morning meditation nonsense. With respect to action, law of attraction is but one of the Immutable Laws. LAW OF ACTION The Law of Action points to the continuum that is the actualization of Divine Oneness, manifest as creation. The Law of Action states that in manifesting one’s dream, one must employ inspired action aligned with one’s thoughts, emotions, ideals and words. Whereas motivation is most often action taken as motive to avoid undesirable circumstances and situations, inspiration is focus upon thought & action arising of sincerity & aligned heartfelt desires. This alignment with & of being is often pointed to with terms like equanimity of the mind, body & emotions, being ‘in spirit’ or ‘spirited’, flow, or flow state, streaming, or stream entry, authenticity, honestly, humility & earnest intention. “What a man can be, he must be. This need we call self realization”. Abraham Maslow “If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you.” Gospel of Thomas “You can definitely vacuum without it being plugged in, but you won’t really be getting much done.” Esther Hicks

It’s inevitable. Only apparently. Yes, consciousnesses. Which is just a word which points to you, and that would be the ‘why’, or the ‘why not’, and yet both, and of course, neither.

Don’t skip, and don’t stop short. Life’s happening for you, not to you - and only now. ‘Not going anywhere with my life’ is a discordant thought, which is now… and that is where you’re going, so to speak. Focusing. But you can listen & receive the guidance in regard to that thought. It would be most difficult to say, wether the guidance or the possibilities are more abundant. Best go with not two. A man bangs relentlessly on the monastery door, “let me in! Let Me In!!! I need to know this peace!”, to which the monk reply’s, “but if I let you in, there won’t be this peace”.

Movie: lots of people, science, hard problems, free will questions, etc. Screen: (being movie).

The best thing AI could do is explain precisely how to not monetize & weaponize AI, and proceed with demonotizing & deweaponizing earth.

Mahasamadhi Is a self referential thought like any other, the body is literal perfection and can be listened to, and there is already no ‘doer’. Relax, allow, receive.

Not to reconcile, just to unconditionally apologize. No expectation. For you, not for the relationship. As you are yourself, that isn’t possible. You could blame Nahm, or Jim or Sue, and that makes some sense. But there isn’t the ‘myself’ of ‘I blame myself’. Blame is an emotion, which is guidance in regard to how that thoughts feels. Listen to the emotional guidance, and not the believing of the thought that there are two of you. Notice it feels slightly better to express the worry, and the resulting un-suppressing of doubt, than to continue to believe & focus upon the self referential thought loop of blame. One sincerely desiring self-love, is one dispelling beliefs about one being two, and thus other than, self-love. When all beliefs are dispelled, only the truth can remain. Consciousness is infinite, and is conscious of self referential limiting beliefs about, consciousness. ‘The one’ who is or has ‘limited consciousness’, or ‘degrees of consciousness’, is actually a thought / belief, infinite consciousness is conscious of. Understanding Aversion. Going Prior.

‘Ultimate death’ isn’t a feeling, it’s a concept which is discordant. The ‘me’ thought of & spoken of isn’t a second self, but is as appears, thoughts & beliefs. Concepts of identity are fragile, and also fragile is a concept, the sense is immeasurably powerful and certain. The lens never changes and isn’t per se yours, mine or ours. A mirror is a mirror, in that a mirror is thought & perception. It isn’t possible to look at yourself in a mirror, it is possible to believe thoughts. Identity is thoughts and beliefs, and so is die / death. When ‘not there’ these thoughts & beliefs are only not focused on, and are not dying or dead, as those are also, as experienced, thoughts. The ‘me’ which has a limited level of consciousness, is only the thoughts that there is a ‘me’ which has a limited level of consciousness, and sometimes referred to as a subject-object thought, or mental fragmentation. That ‘me’ and ‘death’ are as experienced, thoughts. Meditation. The emotional scale. Subject-object thoughts. Going prior.

Translate ‘get all worked up & awkward / lose my charm’ to what emotions you experience(d), and what the guidance therein was / is in regard to self referential beliefs. It is possible to put relationships before communion, but when you do you end up making this thread.