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@Someone here (Analogously) Water vibrationally appears as ice, and as ice, asks ‘why is there stuff’ (separate stuff, like ice, since there’s ice). You’re as they say, ‘getting warmer’.

Oh boy, we’re going meta now. Aquarius... but I don’t think you’re going to be able to top spiritual neurosis, no appreciation for the field of psychology, rhetoric, spiritual ego, spiritual platitudes, bypassing & spewing. Might be wrong though, surely there’s more defamation to create & share.

Disdain is a projection, like spiritualist & heavy forum commenters, and is the answer.

The first class I took in public speaking started with picking something you know well and love. I picked playing guitar. Then pick something you want to communicate about it. I picked explaining yourchords.com, and it’s unique feature of transposing keys. Then you talk for five minutes about it, then you watch the recording of that. Get started today by giving that a try. It’s not unique. Seems like a big deal until you directly experience it, and over time the big deal fades. He’s captivating to you because you want to do what he’s doing, and he’s authentically doing it. He very much believes in what he’s saying and doing. It’s not just for self image and money, so to speak. And he’s very experienced.

Be more open minded. Talk to the mom from ET.

@Holygrail “Pursue” away my good man. ??

Is there, really, already, and I and a myself? Maybe that’s part of the suffering, maybe even all of it. Maybe it’s letting go, vs efforting, attaining, needing x, y or z.

@Holygrail Relax, allow, receive, let ‘it’ come to ‘you’. Make time, make space, maximize your loving so to speak. It’s veiled, not lost.

Thread would be a great practice ground. One embody an emotion fully, another receive it, and feedback / loop / name it, and switch roles. No time like the present to start. In Reiki 2 this is experienced in a same building, in reiki 3 it’s city to city. It’s an amazing, wonderful experience.

‘A jerk’ isn’t attractive. It’s not a mystery. It’s right there in the words. ‘A jerk’ believes, pontificates, conveys, that jerks are attractive.

@FoxFoxFox Right. Wish you the best. ??

@EddieEddie1995 Pure joy. ?? Thank you sir.

@Holygrail On one hand, great orientation, great inquiring and inspecting. On the “other hand”, which there isn’t, but is appearing as hands... what’s “consciousness”, “perception”, what is “meaning held within” and or “without”? “Hands” exist? Hand a thought? Hand ‘in’ perception? Food for contemplation...

@Holygrail It’s a linguistic reference without an actuality, like “you”. There isn’t linguistic. This is an appearance. In one way that says nothing (as in nothing useful to “you”), in another way if it’s puzzling, what can you hear but ‘have the direct experience, of no direct experience’. It’s like saying, find out, in a way.

@FoxFoxFox Are there decisions? So to speak, if you were doing as much as you can, you’d have forgot about the problem already. The ‘problem’ kept alive is the pursuit of the shaktipat for you, which inherently rules it out. The “prophets cave” is a farce. Time wasted. Inquiry, vows, selflessness, control, relegating, a God, asking people... all is nonsense. The subtly of this nonsense is thought, yet felt, or, as ‘feeling’, it is no more. Almost hard to grasp how you’re tolerating it really.

What meaning, in a ‘meat on the bone’ sense, can be seen, or, which awareness aware of, there?

@EntheogenTruthSeeker If Christianity, Jesus, Christ, etc, is comforting and good feeling for you in difficult times in your life, that’s great. If you’re interested in self realization, begin to ‘peel away’ the thoughts, the context, inspect beliefs, explore new and more profound experiences, and dial directly into the feeling itself, so to speak. Fall into it, bask in it, all thoughts coming and going, all discord purging, until there is love / silence / you.

@FoxFoxFox Not sure what you mean in that reply. I meant more, shaktipah isn’t something you decide to do and just start doing, or learn or get advice on. Most simply & practically speaking, what percentage of your free time are you currently spending with helping people, and for how many years? How clear is it that there’s no thought or choice applicable? Put another way, if you’re thinking about it, it ain’t happenin, if & when it’s happenin there’s nothing to think about. Might contemplate why fear & virtue came up.

First step is willingness & open mindedness. You have to accept that what ends up working for you won’t be similar to what you’ve tried which didn’t work. What works will initially not seem like it will work, and you’ll reject and minimize it. Take the path of least resistance directly to your well being. If you can, talk to someone who’s already done what you’re aiming to do. Makes for less rollercoaster of reinventing the wheel. Start a dreamboard. Take Leo’s LP Course.

Other than the dimensions, expediting, and asking, that’s all accurate. Totally agree with @BipolarGrowth on Holy Spirit / Holy Ghost. I wouldn’t pursue this though honestly. If you were destined to tame lions you’d be in the jungle.

Patience can’t be developed, because you are already effortlessly eternally patient. You’re identifying with the emotion of impatience. It can’t possibly be true about you however, because you are experiencing it. If you = impatience, there would not be the experience of impatience. You + you = still just, you. Two methods to detach from that identification and never experience impatience again: Use the emotional scale. Recognize that you experience the emotion, impatience. And when you do, it leads to pessimistic thoughts about your future. “I’ll never..” etc. Don’t identify and make impatience a home... keep moving up the scale. Acknowledge that when you think that way about yourself, indeed pessimistic thoughts follow. Ever find yourself with more than ample energy - yet - experiencing boredom? Acquiesce to it. Settle into now. Step away from the task at hand, take five minutes. Drop your precious thoughts like china. Sink into gravity. Just be. Focus on seeing, hearing, breathing, and feeling. If and when you do, every time you do, you will allow doubt, disappointment, overwhelment, impatience, pessimism and boredom to fall away, to settle as the peace they really are, and you will experience the emotion of contentment. Feeling is like a cork. When you hold it underwater, and miss that you’re identifying with an emotion, it seems like something must be done, fixed, added, learned, solved, obtained, achieved, increased, amplified, etc. But that’s not how a cork works at all. You let go; cork floats. That is it’s nature. That is your nature. That is just how Goodness rolls. It’s uncovered, allowed, welcomed, invited, made time for, made room for... never the product of something we do. It never comes and goes, it’s always there for you. We just get a little busy sometimes, and all up into the thoughts and identifying. Contentment, relative to doubt, impatience, etc... feels downright awesomely peaceful. When you’re allowing that contentment... you’re not experiencing pessimism... because you’re feelin cool and calm. Naturally... hopefulness arises, like the steam of the cool morning ocean, it’s just it’s nature, it’s just how it rolls. Hopefulness feels really good compared to previous emotions on the scale... and naturally... optimism arises, and some thoughts pop right outta that sweet goodness... some killer thoughts about you kickin ass and takin names in a future. That feels really, really good, like Matthew McConaughey playin the bongo’s naked good. No reason, just good. Just for the feeling of it, just being alive, experiencing, this now. Then, honestly, the moment just gets bat shit crazy. Enthusiasm springs up more chill than bubbles in a Coors light. That’s just how it rolls. We’re talking effervescent mountain chilled coolness. Good luck not feeling happiness in such a predicament. You keep that up, this learning about the emotions you’re experiencing... instead of identifying...well, fuck. It’s game over for the rest of us. That momentum is a new passion, a never before arising in you. A once in eternity best of both worlds blend of you and our ineffable ever loving source. Nobody can compete with that allowing of goodness. From there... just forgetaboutit. I mean really. It won’t even be fair to the human race. You’ll be shootin joy from your fingertips. Programming?! Programming?!! Psh, you crush cities with your bare feet with such an infusion of empowerment and freedom. The programming you do will be like what’s inside that brief case in Pulp Fiction. You’re a legend. A thousand years from now artificial intelligence will lock itself in a meltdown conundrum just trying to figure out how you did it. Second ‘method’, utter honesty. Going ‘most prior’ as the awareness you are. “I’m playing a game... the ‘I’m impatient, and have all this pressure, game’ “. You can take a break and push eject on that game. You are the game master - it’s your game. You get to play it how you want. You’re calling all the shots, and nobody’s keeping track. Nobody’s tracking, tallying, or even checking. You get to choose how you experience, always, every second of everyday. You are a creator. You can set that game disc aside for a bit. You won’t lose it, it’ll be there, you can pop it back in whenever you want. You can pop in the ‘if I don’t enjoy this moment now...then when’ game. You can push eject on the “better feeling will be in the future” game... and pop in the “feeling is here now, always” game. Programming...?! You are Thee Programmer.

@Preety_India You are so beautiful and easy to love, and I appreciate you. @RendHeaven Thank you for everything! ??

Spirituality is the pursuit of what is actual and or true. The actuality of psychology is that none of it is true, including “true actualization”. It’s an appearance. When believed, it’s content so to speak, is illusory. A “spiritualist” would regard this as thought attachment, and recognize there is no such thing as “a spiritualist”. There is no thinker, let alone a narcissist. The wind blows, yet there is no blower.

@SamC I’m at a loss as to how something there is valued. One can believe one is perfectionistic, but it’s not true, it’s a belief. Same for having contempt against yourself. There’d have to be two of you for that to be possible. Imagine a judge in a courtroom holding himself in contempt. The bailiff might say “but judge, you are you”... but the judge might judge the bailiff, and miss the insight. I don’t think you despise anything or anyone there... I think the thought doesn’t feel good...and there is a case of choosing “being right” over feeling good...(?) Right & wrong, an authority of right & wrong, and judgement... are all pretty solid blue. Leaving that, would be for orange. Recognizing everyone has an opinion, but nobody’s right, or better. Putting feeling first is crucial for orange.

@SamC @SamC ‘Wrong’ may not be the perfect word... maybe ‘contempt’. No, I’m not implying you have blue or any logical models in you. Moralizing and nitpicking could be a blue indicator. It’s thinking people should be the same. Someone who ‘breaks off’ from the herd isn’t concerned with this, generally speaking. They’re focus on themself more, and doing their thing.