Nahm

That “state of consciousness” is not a state at all, it’s unpracticed unmeditative mind. Just like all the other muggles. A tree is just a tree. A cloud is just a cloud. A man is just a man. A thought is just a thought. No thing belongs to any one. The thought, belief, in ‘there’, is piggybacking the belief in ‘states’, being ‘there’. Thoughts are thoughts. In direct experience, ‘here’ & ‘now’. The unmeditative mind believes them though, and focus leaves here & now, and ‘goes into’ abstraction. You can keep doing what doesn’t work. Some people meditate every morning, and see through those beliefs effortlessly. Drop the whole ‘states of consciousness’ & ‘survival game’ paradigm. Unless of course it’s feeling great and you’re thriving. Take note how you’re spinning everything into a problem. Someone tries to help you, and you use that as problem ammo.

@Someone here Maybe talk out / through the problem, rather than about meditation or praying. Expression has a way of unraveling problems and allowing some space for solutions and different perspectives.

Not so this can be realized, so the thought activity which is all it actually is, settles as this peace which is appearing as, that thought activity. Agree, is a thought. Disagree, is a thought. Awareness, is not a thought. Those are thoughts. Someone else is saying there are solutions in my life. Someone else isn’t experiencing any thought activity at all. Someone else is well aware there is no my life, and no problems. That distinction, all distinctions, are just thoughts. I’m not right, & I don’t meditate. When you believe you know things, you enslave yourself to the belief others know things which you don’t, but need to. That’s a thought. Find the truth of that in perception & feeling.

@Someone here You gonna do what you gonna do, but for the point of clear communication, what’s being suggested is the opposite.

@Someone here No. lol. Listen to what’s being said for once my good man.

@Javfly33 The underlying assumption is there is a you and a reality. A knower and a that which can be known. Discordant self referential beliefs keep the hamster wheel & frame of spirituality as a solution, a means of solving this, or any problem going. No self, no problem. The ‘self’ is just the thoughts about there being, a self. Your problems, are just thoughts, about you and problems. The curiosity is the zest for life. Focus is on anything else, from self ref thoughts, self doubt. Your life is and will be what and how you focus. Thoughts & solutions aren’t needed. When it’s believed they are, it is compensation for beliefs about yourself which aren’t true. Notice you put the story of you even before the inquiry of interest. A you which is disappointed, a you which is in time, four years, doing. Let the story go. It limits, albeit apparently, yet effectively.

@Someone here Thinking about meditation isn’t meditation. In meditation, it’s all exactly the same ‘thing’. Mind says problem. Mind says God fix my problem. Meditation, no problems. All is well.

Thoughts are appearing & disappearing, yes? One of those thoughts, is that you have the content of those thoughts… but that is of course, just another appearing, and disappearing thought. If you don’t have it, how can there be instability from it, how can there be karma problems from it. Perhaps, the discord you’re experiencing isn’t from knowledge at all, but from ‘being the one who has it’. That’s like claiming you’re the one who has too much air. Of course it’s going to feel off, it’s ridiculous.

Understanding / misunderstanding someone else is the wrong lens, and you’re thinking in double negatives. You’re also assuming someone else does understand and you don’t. Focus instead on what you actually want to understand, until you do. It might, and might not, have anything at all to do with anyone else.

Meditation.

Nobody (else) is keepin track of this stuff. Make threads about what’s actually important to you. Something you wanna know or think through. Something you want to achieve, experience, create, understand, etc. Or maybe something which isn’t serving you, which you want to let go of.

That’s really more of an either or scenario.

Yep ?

@Zeroguy Nah. She still does though. Insatiable, as we know.

If the activity of thought & attachment therein is such that there is “wisdom”, such that you have it or don’t, or others have it or don’t, you ain’t wise.

@eliasvelez Have as many as you want. In the near future this will be very common.

Well if ya ever see either of those definitely take a picture.

@Zeroguy How so bro?

@Strangeloop Maybe the anger is from a lens of getting things done correctly & in a timely fashion. If so, the relief is that there is no actuality of “done”. If something is worth deviating from this peace & love now, there will always be something else, another reason, another justification & rationalization of the anger. Next time it arises, just breathe deep in the stomach, let gravity relax every muscle, and notice the complete anarchy and hilarity of reality by and large. Don’t identify as the anger (“I have anger issues” ). Recognize anger as the emotion experienced. This is the opening to see you are creating it, and how, and the reaction factor can morph into a conscious response (to the thought, not the other or external).

The lion is roaring. ✊?

@Endangered-EGO Like ‘yourself’, the “scientific proving” is already and also the manifestation.

@James12345

Psychedelics can be very helpful for the thought attachment or belief that there are psychedelics.

It’s not that there is a we and an experience and feelings in question of trustworthiness or realness. It’s that there isn’t. Not two. Right, then don’t. It is you which is powerful & amazing, and profoundly loving & positive. Not some drug, experience or reality.