Mohammad

@Gopackgo I agree with you on direct experience. Sometimes I feel like I always felt,I am moving through the 3 dimensional universe.But sometimes,the other way around,as you say.I am always where I am.objects are coming into awareness and then changing shape and giving their place to some other object.it's kinda like that everything is a formless entity,and each time this entity enters the awareness(which is me) in a different form(reminds me of quantum universe where electrons are supposed to be every where until you observe them.) But I think that we need to realize,that what ever form it takes,it is always beautiful.because it is the "beauty". And even maybe there is no me or awareness,and this entity.maybe we are not separate,but one.but I dont feel this way.

I believe they can feel because they are a form of life.but their "feeling" might be different than animal's. They might not hear you,or see you,but they surely are connected to their surroundings and sense it,they communicate to each other,and there is a great vitality in them. Modern biology is just beginning to understand the life of plants and they are surely very interesting life forms. There is an Italian scientist,Stefano Mancuso,which studies plant intelligence passionately.you can follow his works if you are interested.

I've had many weird experiences.but one of them was very different,and it is not easy for me to explain it.because when I try to explain it does not even seem real to myself. I was meditating with my eyes closed.I was listening to my wall clock ticking,and the sound of distant cars moving in the streets out of my room's window.and then,suddenly without any attempt,I became one with my room.I was the walls,the clock that was still ticking,and the cold window of the room,and everything else inside the room even the body.I sat there for maybe about 2-3 minutes,very peacefully and comfortable.an then slowly "I" came back into the body and I felt that I was inside my body again.and the weird thing for me was that all of this experience,at that moment,was not weird at all!it felt very natural to me.it happened,and then I was myself again,I opened my eyes and went outside of my room.It was just after a while that I realized what a weird shit just happened to me.and it was awesome!

@Gopackgo Just a note on your sixth grade science class.if you look at it closely,when we try to touch an object,with our hands or just walking on ground,there is a thought that "I" am touching something,but in reality the only thing that exist is the sensation.the sensation of my hands touching the keyboard exist,but the fact that "I" am typing,is just a thought! So,science says that atoms push each other away by their magnetic force,they never collide,the things that I call "my" hands never collide with the keyboard,this I can grasp.but the fact of the matter is that I relate the sensations that exist (e.g.hand touching keyboard) to "my hand".There is no "my hand" if we look at it closely.we are observing that atoms never collide.and a sensation exists.that's all.and this does not make any sense!because although I know this intellectually,there is always this thought present in my mind that I am touching stuff.Am I atoms?I dont feel like it.but it looks like that I am.and this does not make any sense! Sometimes these types of contemplation helps me to break something old in the models.but unfortunately I can see that it becomes replaced by another model very rapidly,even if it seems like that the new model might be more "real". We are masters of our own deception.I realize that more day by day.

I dont think that there is a vivid line separating these two."mystical experience" and "enlightenment" are just two words.I think lots of differences between these two arises when humans try to communicate to each other something that they understood.maybe enlightenment is just a deep and high form of mystical experience.and maybe even enlightenment is not end of the road.the end has no name.

I used to have(and I think still have) a scientific mind too.I am a master student of physiology.and lots of similiar expriences to yours made me realize that my models were just made up and non existent.the brain is creating my expriences?brain is just made up of matter.even signals in the brain are being created by movement of Ions(matter).these are what science says.but then,what is matter?! nowadays its so obvious to me that all of this is just a model.feeling,seeing,hearing... these are not movement of ions! The questions that you ask are very good questions and deserve time for contemplation.