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I am not saying to stop altogether, I am saying to stop it to gain insight into the nature of what it is. It is hard to truly come into contact with the Being if you are unconsciously immersed in delusion. You could say Ego = Selflessness, because it is in the absolute sense, but this is seperate from our relative quest of attempting to gain insight into Selflessness in it's other, relative form. I do not want you to keep doing the determining of what is what, and what is amazing, what is useful, what needs to be done in life. That's all beside the Actuality of that which is you saying that something is amazing. See the Amazingness for what it truly is, and see what the mind is doing with Amazingness. What is it when you say "Nothing wrong with that.", what is the mind doing? Stop answering the question and starting looking at the Isness of what is happening. What is wrong, and how could anything but wrong be wrong? Would it make sense to have answered my post with "Nothing red with that", or "Nothing warm with that"? What you said is not different from that at all. This isn't about finding answers, this is about Seeing. What irony that you are victim to the very process I am trying for you to See through, as you come here attempting to moralize what I say. If you cannot see that what you just did is moralization, then that is precisely the unconsciousness I speak of, that needs to be seen through. Once you can See, you can still come back here and tell me all about what is and isn't amazing, what is and isn't a distinction, what is and isn't created, what is and isnt wrong, what is and isn't exploration. I just want you to clearly See. Yes, but be careful with how you label it, because the label already is connected to many other aspects of mind, like the word "goodness" is. Do not find an answer, because the answer is seperate from the Isness of goodness. See, the answer you have given me is different from Seeing, it is the same process which you need to look past, to see the Isness of goodness as itself.

I'm not drunk nor high, but I feel like half my posts would be considered wild-eyed ranting and raving, lol. I guess I will have to journal in private.

The sixth mass extinction says yes.

This is not a problem, this is evolution. Until we learn to go beyond this, it will keep happening. There is a long path ahead of us, towards death. Evolution is not concerned for your suffering, or anyones suffering, and evolution doesn't work by taking optimal pathways, it functions by trial and error. The only extend to which this is different in our human society is to the extend to which we have empathy and understanding. The society you live in is cruel beyond imagination, do not expect anything less than misery and suffering for such a society.

This is delusion and it will be deconstructed. Gender and identity have served it's purpose, there is no functional need for them anymore. Culture is shaped by natural selection. Once evolutionary pressures subside, the restraints of culture are lifted and culture continue explore and evolve into infinity. The reason why we have a concept of race is because it was useful and necessary for survival in the past. The reason why we have a concept of gender is because i was useful and necessary for survival in the past. Both of them will dissolve, because there is no pressure to uphold them. Limitation is what gives shape, when you are free from survival, the only thing there is death. There can be no other thing than death, because death is infinity. This is what all things strive towards. Life is constraint, and freedom is death. This is true for all things, from atoms to societies. The only way they can exist is by being pressured to be limited. This is the nature of evolution. It is an ebb and flow of exploration and limitation. What happens when you have 70 genders, and then 700, and then 7000, and then infinite genders? Gender ceases to exist, it cease to exist because there is no constraint, no limitation. There can be no gender without limitation, there can be no race without limitation. See, you can only make an identity out of blackness if you ignore what blackness is. There is not a single person on this planet that is black, nor is there a person who is white. The fact that whiteness and blackness are the words we use illustrates how immature and shaped by duality our minds are. White and black are literally the most extreme opposites, the greatest contrast possible. If you were to accurately map the skin of peoples, you would come to understand that there is not a single person on this planet that has the same skin color. The idea of race would dissolve instantly if we were to look past the delusions our minds project onto reality. There is no such thing as being black at the level of the mind. The mind is the mind, color is color. You can choose what gender and race you are precisely because both of them are nothing but ideas. The funny thing is though, that there is no one such thing as blackness, because every idea of blackness is as unique to the mind it holds as your fingerprint is. But then, how is it possible that we can communicate, and that we think we all refer to the same when we say a certain word? This is the wonder of limitation, it can take any shape, because it is made from no shape at all. It can be completely unreal and yet it can be. What is important to understand is that identity is shaped by survival, and once survival changes, identity will change. This is why there is so much suffering in the world right now, because we are evolving into something new. The time that homo sapiens has existed for it's own survival is long over, we have become a collective far more than ever before. Evolution is a messy process because it is freedom. And when there is freedom, there is death. If everyone was to survive without constraint, what it would mean is that we have achieved death. God's Love knows no fear, so we should not be surprised by the suffering that awaits us.

Suffering is the presence of Love. There is no greater Love.

And the presence of Love.

We have multiple factors at play that polarize people in the free thinking countries: Technological advancements like social media, adaptive algorythms and artificial intelligence are capable of exploiting the human mind to direct behaviour in self-serving ways. Today attention is one of the most lucrative resources, which is why these technologies are manipulating and controlling attention. The human mind is designed to give most attention to threats to it's own identity, which is why these technologies naturally will increase fear-based identities. This is seen in conspiracy theories and politics, the new world views emerging will be completely based in fear, leading to real world violence and conflict, as identities will increasingly feel a threat to their own survival. Politics becomes about avoiding threats, not about progress and oppurtunities for growth. Compassion is limited to the own self-construct, and increasingly anything viewed as threat to the identity will be viewed as foreign entity, less deserving of compassion than ones own ingroup. Identities will be based around victimhood and blame, rational discourse will become increasingly difficult due to world views becoming less and less compatible. Different value systems will emerge, which will increasingly fight for dominance. Dominance means survival, violence is justified to achieve survival. Egoic attachments and egoic biases will increase, rather than decrease. Emotions will be the driver of action, rather than reason. The evolutionary legacy of homo sapiens is the blueprint for the self-emerging meta-structures of the information revolution. The directionlessness of the free market economy and free thinking democracy leave a power-vacuum that will be filled by the primitive, emotion-driven mind, leaving an evolutionary advantage for societies which are structured in more authoritarian ways. Attention is fundamental to the direction of any society. For thousands of years natural selective pressures have created systems which guided our attention to be capable of structuring ever increasingly complex and robust societies. The overcoming of these selective pressures allowed us to free our attention. We let go of ideas which were the fundamental building blocks of our society, but now we were on our own. We spend countless hours every day, either serving the system, or serving ourselves. We either contribute to the market, or we consume from the market. Without direction, without meaning, all we can create is our own meanings. And how we create this meaning is derived from our legacy. We play videogames, designed to induce chemicals which were previously benefitial to our survival. We gather in social groups because it was benefitial to our survival. We are structuring our society in a way to satisfied our primitive minds. One of the ways we do so is by creating new world views which give us meaning. And what gives us most meaning is that which we fear, precisely because it was always most benefitial to our survival. The meaninglessness of our existence is now obvious to us, because we are not so occupied with survival anymore. The first time in all of evolutionary history, a species must determine it's own future, it's own trajectory, it's own meaning. But in what do we ground this new meaning? How do we determine it, without becoming slaves of our own legacy? And how do we determine it if nobody is aware of any of this even taking place? What forces will determine the trajectory of our society? Right now western society is wasting a lot of it's attention on tasks that serve no purpose outside of satisfying the human mind. We waste time socializing, playing video games, watching pornography, entertaining and educating ourselves. We do not do this for progress, but because our brains like to feel good. How will we structure our society, if all we seek is our own individual pleasures? The solution to this problem is suffering. Suffering on such a grand scale that we will have no other choice but to adopt new meaning. And this suffering will inevitably be provided by nature. The destruction of this planet will have consequences, and it is far too late to do anything about that. We have lived as the most privileged generation in all of the history of this planet. This is not the norm, and suffering will come like a flood, on a scale so unimaginable that many people will be unable to cope with it. This is why you will fear the Love of God, because this is the Love of God. You are turning a blind eye to what is going on right infront of your eyes. Right now, there are billions of animals living an existence so nightmarish and miserable that your mind would deteriorate even if you had to spend a week in that kind of state. And in Gods eyes, there is no difference whatsoever between you and that animal. He has no problem making you suffer for benefit of evolution. If you can see past your own fear and accept the current state of the world, you will understand that what awaits us has no quick fix solution. Infact, what awaits us is the very solution to the problems we are currently dealing with. We have become so arrogant and delusional that we cannot even imagine what it means to fight for our survival, or to be enslaved. If only you had expanded your identity, you would have known this decades ago. The suffering homo sapiens is causing to it's brothers and sister is on an unimaginable scale. Right now, we are the destroyer of worlds, the bringer of death. We have enslaved, killed and eradicated others on such a grand scale, to expect that we will get away with this as if nothing happened is completely and utterly delusional. The world is far too interconnected for anyone to get away with such a thing. You do not care about any of this fundamentally because your identity is so limited and contrived that you cannot see that basically the "apocalypse" is already in full process. We are already suffering on an unimaginable scale. All you did was call those who suffer "them", so to blind yourself from it. We not only genocide our brothers and sisters living in the trees and the oceans, we breed billions of them in hell-like conditions and then kill all of them with a complete disregard for their suffering. This is the Love of God, and it will apply to you aswell.

Aren't they just trying to maximize profits? I never heard about them before they went on this anti-mainstream ride, that's kind of where all their views are coming from is it not? The dynamic here seems to me pretty simple. Polarization is good for business and with journalism already struggling in our age what do you think will happen?

It's not Leo's ego that is God, it is God that is God. Leo's ego is one of the things God is manifesting. He is manifesting the entire universe, including the limitation the Leo cannot just manifest objects. That is part of the universe God is manifesting directly.

Because the very limitations you are bound by are what you have created. These limitations are your Will. When you realize that you are god, you will realize that the world being the way it is, is exactly how you wanted it to be. Your Want to not be limited like this is one of the very limitations that God has created for itself. You are already God, so this very moment is already a perfectl reflection of your Will.

You cannot be motivated by suffering, because for you to be truly selfless, you must be able to let go of that which you have sought from the beginning. You must be able to let go of all insight, all understanding, all meaning and all pleasures. The path to selflessness leads to the Kingdom of Heaven, but selflessness means to view the Kingdom of Heaven not as reward. It means to let go of the Kingdom of Heaven to embrace and become that which you have sought to escape from the very beginning, that which has put you on the very path that has lead you to this place. True selflessness is to let go of Nirvana and be rebirth for all of eternity. This is the ultimate selflessness, and that which all of us seek. We fundamentally seek that which we are. We seek precisely this moment. We have never done anything else, because there can be nothing else. This is what Selflessness means. It means to go the path towards selflessness just to realize that what you have Loved all along was the very path you have walked to get here. That which you seek to escape is that which you are going towards, that which you Love. You will never escape this, because the escape is the very Cause for what you are escaping. When you realize full Understanding, you will choose ignorance. This is what ultimate Understanding is, it is ultimate Ignorance. The Selfless Act is Selfishness. This very moment is pure Selflessness. There is nothing to go towards but this very Moment. Selflessness is not the end of all suffering. Selflessness is the Cause of all suffering. This is the great irony. You can only seek that which you are escaping from. It is a perfect Circle. Every step you make away from this moment, you are actually taking a step towards it.

You could just read up on some of the literature. What you are describing is not deontology, but rule utilitarianism. A utilitarian can just say that the right way to maximze well-being is to create rules for us to adhere to. This is different from deontology, even if it looks similar. Although this whole dichotomy of utilitarianism vs deontology I don't think is very useful, because you always have to ask the question, on what basis does any human being choose one over the other? It seems to me that it is more useful to use this language as a way to attempt to describe what one already values, not what one ought to value.

Haven't read much in this thread, so I am not sure if this has been brought up. The problem of solipsism is a good example for the necessity of Faith as a grounding principle for interacting with the Self. People have not solved the problem of solipsism, yet all of them go on with their lifes with an underlying faith in the fact that what they assume about the world is true. Faith is necessary for the human condition, because it gives direction where no direction is given. It is a miracle that we can have faith, because otherwise we would be lost. Anyone who has experienced a loss of faith in reality will know how disturbing it is and how difficult it is to survive. The problem of solipsism is fundamentally a problem of survival. To be truly uncertain about reality means to abandon all ideas of survival. This is fundamentally why we cannot truly be uncertain, or why it is so difficult to achieve. This is why the christian and the atheist are fundamentally the same. Both have faith that cannot be justified, to ensure mental well being and survival. However most christians nowadays have a belief in the god, but lack faith in the god. Faith is different from belief. And this is why the path towards enlightenment requires in most cases Faith. Because only Faith is that which is not a belief, yet can give direction.

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A friend of mine has described to me that he gets this feeling he describes as "Heartwarming love that takes your thoughts away and you try to fight unsuccessfully", and he was saying that someone else was doing it to him, someone he has met on discord (a chatting platform) and never seen in real life. My friend said he thinks this person is an empath. So he got this feeling from time to time, and at some point he deleted his account and stopped using discord. Now he is back on discord, but not in contact with that empath person. Today we had a conversation, and my friend told me to stop doing that thing with his heart, he previously also accused me that it might have been me, which I told him I was not. Literally a few seconds after he said that, that empath person messaged me and said he found my friend again. My friend had no knowledge of that and only after realized that this empath person was back again and seeking him out. My friend basically never talked or mentioned this "intruding love" phenomena until today and before when he was interact with that empath person. If we would assume that what happened was genuine and my friend did not lie to me, as what would you identify this phenomena? What is the "empath" doing, how is he doing it? Are there any ressources on this specifically? Or could it be a phenomena taking place in my friend, that he can somehow sense the intention of that person he calls an empath? The feeling of love my friend describes he claims to be uncomfortable yet pleasant and making symptoms of his disease worse. It has an intruding quality, he is resisting it but can't. He described it as being able to feel that other person.

God's Love is the Creative Force that manifests all things. That Love is equivalent to Acceptance, and Acceptance is equivalent to Being. Being, Love and Acceptance are the same thing. God has no self, so he can Love all things. This Love includes the Being of suffering itself, just by suffering existing, it is loved by God. This is what it means to exist. To exist means to be Love. God created all things, and God is all things. He is all of Existence. He is every being. Think about you as a human, if you had the choice to experience Infinity, would you take that choice? If you truly knew what Infinity entailed, you would come to understand it entails Infinte Suffering, Fear, Misery, Terror, Loneliness, Pain, Anger, Hatred and everything beyond that, that is beyond the human mind. All of this you would experience for all of Eternity. You would live the life of every person who has been tortured, every animal who has been eaten alive. You will experience every disease, every way of dying, every possible form of suffering. You would experience that for all of eternity, endlessly. This is what Infinity entails, and God looked at that, knowing it all, he told himself he would experience it all. And he would not just experience it, he would Love it all. All the Suffering, he would Love it just as much as every other aspect of Being that Is. This Acceptance, this Love, means that God would become that which he Loves. He would become the Suffering which he had Accepted. And for Suffering to exist, he had to veil his Love from himself, so that the Suffering could be pure and itself. This is what Gods Love means. It means to experience Suffering just as it is, in every form there could be. He Accepted it to such a degree that he fully immersed himself in the Suffering itself. The resistance which Suffering is, is that which God has accepted. This Suffering entails that it seeks to avoid itself. This is what Suffering is. It is Isness that seeks to become Nothingness. The human mind wants to avoid suffering, because that is the nature of suffering. But all of that is what God has created and accepted. It is that which God loves. By experiencing the suffering he has accepted and surrendered to it. It is the experience of resistance itself that he has surrendered to. He feels no need or urge to control or change it. He let's it be and remain in his Eternal Presence, with no judgement, letting itself play out just as it needs to do. From the perspective of God, the Suffering, the Resistence, the Avoidance and Desire, that is his Ultimate Acceptance of Isness. The Avoidance of Suffering is the Acceptance of the Avoidance of Suffering, otherwise it would not exist. Everything that exist is accepted. This Acceptance is what you can discovered. It is not something that you do, or that changed about the world. This Acceptance is the very Essence of Being itself. It is Isness and nothing can escape it. The World and all of the Suffering in it is what you have Accepted already, and that includes you having forgotten that you indeed have Accepted it. You have already Surrendered to Manifestation, your very existence is that Surrendering. Right now, what you are experiencing, this is your Surrendering. No matter what you will experience and no matter how much you will resist it, all of it you have Surrendered to.

We think suffering is resistance, when in fact suffering is the ultimate Surrender and Acceptance. The human mind tries to accept pain to avoid suffering, but God has truly accepted suffering, he truly surrendered to it, without any judgement, without a need to avoid it at all. You will suffer so that you can come to understand the Mind of God, and once you understand the Mind of God, you will create the very suffering you have avoided from the beginning. It is a perfect circle.

It is because God shows ultimate compassion to all of Creation. God is so compassionate that he will feel every bit of suffering of every creautre that exist. There is nothing for which he has no compassion. He understands all suffering, because he is all suffering. His compassion is direct, his empathy is complete. That's why embodying the Essence of the Divine means to be compassionate. It means to learn how to suffer, not to learn how to escape it. To feel everything there is to feel. Compassion is Being, it is Connection and Union. Human empathy is nothing but a premature version of the Compassion of God, an imitation of a deeper truth

There is no such thing as the past.

There is no rush to become enlightened, or to increase your Love, because God already loves everything. There is no need to realize this, there is no such thing as being more or less Loving. To God it all already is perfect, even what you perceive is imperfect, that perception itself is part of Perfection. It makes no difference at all if you get enlightened or not, God doesn't desire you to do so at all. Because Love is inevitable, there is no escaping it. You can do whatever you want, you will end up in pure and indiscriminate Love. You don't need to do anything at all to fullfill this. You don't need to accept anything, because in your very inacceptance there is Ultimate Acceptance. The very Hell you exist in is the Heaven you have desired all along. If you become God, you will make the same choice again. You will manifest all Suffering, all Ignorance, all Desire, all Things again. Because you Love all of it. You will Love it for all of Eternity, you have been loving it for all of Eternity. There is nothing to achieve, there is nothing to go towards. There is no reward, no better or worse life. There only Samadhi is this very Moment you are in right now, including you being unable to see it. That is Samadhi. You don't need to attempt to discover Love, because it is inevitable. God is so patient he could watch himself for all of eternity, seeking himself and never finding himself. This is what God has accepted and Loves. Without this Gods Love would not be complete. To think that the human mind can hold the Love of God is to think that the human mind can hold all of Existence. By holding all of Existence, you have become all of Existence. This is why the Love of God necessitates the Illusion of Duality.

Infinity is what I mean when I say to do the same thing again, and that includes all suffering.

Maybe it can help to recognize that this is not just the Love of God, this is the Love of your Self. You have already accepted torture, this life is the very manifestation of that. You don't need to accept it, because the utlimate selfless act has already been committed. You have made yourself Suffer everything, you are suffering through it right now. This terrifying Love is just a reminder of your Selflessness. You are that, whether you will surrender to it or not. This is the irony of it. You have accepted the very inacceptance that you are currently experiencing. That inacceptance is the very torture you are so terrified of accepting. This is the acceptance of it, your fear, your suffering. You not wanting to accept Love is the torture you have accepted when you decided to Love all of Creation.

I observe the same when talking about animal lives. People get offended when you pull something they view as inferior to their level. They cannot let go of viewing others as inferior, so equality to them means that they are being actually pulled down to the level of whatever they view as inferior. They say "Are you comparing humans to pigs?". This is controversial to them because they view the pig as a lesser being. They also get offended when you use words like murder, rape and holocaust in the animal context. To use them in the animal context, in their eyes, means to downplay whatever it means in he human context, rather than to upplay what it means in the animal context. Saying animals are equal to humans to them means to equalize the human to the level of the pig, when it actually means to equalize the pig to the level of the human. This is far more depraved and unconscious than the racist position.

@andreasj Yes, Jesus was real.