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Prabhaker replied to Orange's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
A spectator is one whose eyes are on others. And the observer is one whose eyes are on himself. When the eyes are on the object you are a spectator, when the eyes are on the seer you are an observer. It is a revolutionary distinction, very fundamental. When your eyes stop on the object and you forget yourself, then you are a spectator. When all objects of vision have departed, when you, and only you, are there – only awakening remains, only alertness remains – then you are an observer. When you are a spectator, you become completely oblivious. You forget yourself completely; your attention gets stuck there. You watch TV for hours you forget yourself, you don’t even remember who you are. You forget all worries and anxieties. There is so much worry, anxiety, trouble in living – a method of forgetting is needed. People become completely one pointed. Only at the TV is their total attention is focused. They see… actually there is nothing on the screen, just shadows go on flickering, but people are all attention. They forget their illness, their anxieties, their old age, and even if death comes they will forget that. But remember, you have not become an observer before TV; you have become a spectator. You have forgotten yourself; you have no memory of who you are. You have lost all memory of the energy of seeing which is within you. You have stopped at the object in front of you, you are totally drowned in it. To be a spectator is a kind of self-forgetting. And to be an observer means now all objects of observation have disappeared. The screen is empty, now no film moves on it. No thoughts remain, no words remain; the screen becomes absolutely empty, blank and shining, white. Nothing left to see, only the seer remains. And now you take a plunge into the seer. You become the observer. @Orange What will you get by seeing? You have seen so much. What did you get? Watch what you allow into your mind. People are unaware; they go on reading everything and anything, watching any silly thing on the TV, passing on any stupid gossip and pouring rubbish into each other´s heads. Avoid such situations in which you are unnecessarily burdened with rubbish. You already have too much. You need to be unburdened! Talk and listen only to the essential and slowly slowly you will see that a cleanliness, a feeling of purity, as if you have just taken a bath, will start arising within you. That becomes the necessary soil for meditation to arise. -
Prabhaker replied to Dodo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Really, no matter what we call it, we will miss it. Any conceptualization is going to miss the real - any conceptualization - so whatever has been known as the self, the soul, the atman, is not the real thing. It cannot be. All those who have defined it, have defined it with a condition: that they are trying something that is absurd. That which cannot be said they are saying; that which cannot be defined they are defining; that which cannot be known they are making a theory about. There have been three attitudes about it. First, there have been the mystics, the knowers, who have remained totally silent about it. They will not give any definition; they say definition is futile. Then there has been another group of mystics - the largest group - that says, "Even an effort that is futile can be helpful. Sometimes even untrue theory leads to truth, sometimes even wrongs may become rights, sometimes even a false step may lead you to a right end. It may look false at the moment, or in the end it may even prove false, but still, false devices can help." This second group feels that by remaining silent you are still saying something, that nothing can be said. And this second type of mystic has a point. Definitions belong to them. Then there is a third type who has been neither silent nor who has defined. They have just denied the whole thing in order that you will not be at all obsessed with it. Buddha belongs to this third type. If you ask him whether there is a soul, whether there is God, whether there is an existence beyond life, he will just deny it. -
Prabhaker replied to Hero in progress's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Man has created God in his own image. -
None of above, only need food, clothes and shelter, I prefer to live alone without purpose.
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Jung suggests that everyone has both an extroverted side and an introverted side, with one being more dominant than the other. Extroverts are interested in the outer. They are active people, worldly – after wealth, prestige, position, power. They become politicians, they become social reformers, they become great leaders, great industrialists. They are interested in things, the outer world; they are not interested in themselves. Then there are introverts. They are not very active people. If they have to do something they will do, otherwise they have no inclination to do. They would like to remain with closed eyes. They become poets, mystics, meditators, contemplatives. They are not interested in the world, they are interested only in themselves; they close their eyes and they introvert their energies. An extrovert is one who is very easily lost in anything. An introvert is one who, whatsoever he does,remains alone. Somewhere he is separate, aloof, distant. The introvert lives from within. He feels hungry then he goes to find the food. The extrovert becomes hungry when he sees the food. The introvert gets interested and looks for a woman because he feels sexually aroused. The extrovert become aroused when he sees a woman. For the extrovert cause is outside. For the introvert cause is inside.
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Read From Sex to Superconsciousness by Osho The journey into love cannot exclude our innate biological energies. With this perspective, it becomes clear that the tendency for religions, and for society in general, to associate sex with sin and morality has been a great misfortune. From Sex to Superconsciousness begins by deconstructing the layers of sexual repression that the condemnation of sex has inflicted on human. Osho proposes a vision that embraces sex as a fundamental gift from nature. We learn how orgasm offers a glimpse of timelessness, thoughtlessness, and pure awareness. Finally, we are presented with a clear choice: a repressed sexuality that leads to pornography, perversion, and a stunted humanity or a playful, respectful, and relaxed innocence that supports us in becoming fulfilled and whole, as nature intended. http://www.oshorajneesh.com/download/osho-books/hindi-translations/From_Sex_to_Superconsciousness.pdf
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Your unconditional love will make you unattached to individuals; it will be just an aroma around you. You will be a loving person. You will love the trees, you will love the sunset, you will love a woman, you will love all that this universe provides you. Your real being only flowers with unconditional love. Your love can turn into hate any moment. Scratch a person just a little bit, and the love disappears and hate arises. It is not even skin-deep. Even so-called great lovers are continuously fighting, continuously at each other's throats – nagging, destructive. And people think this is love. The real thing is not a relationship but a state; one is not in love but one is love. A Buddha is love, a Jesus is love – not in love with a particular person, but simply love. Their very climate is love. It is not addressed to anybody in particular, it is spreading in all directions. An unenlightened can think that he can love unconditionally or someone can appear to be loving unconditionally, but his love can turn into hate any moment. For example if you think you love a girl unconditionally, marry her , you will find what kind of love it is. Only those who are never allowed to meet are remembered, for centuries, for their great love.
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Ordinarily people love only when their conditions are fulfilled. They say, "You should be like this, only then will I love". A mother says to the child, "I’ll love you only if you behave". A wife says to the husband, "You have to be this way, only then can I love you". Everybody creates conditions: love disappears. When you fall in love everything looks beautiful, because in those moments you don’t put conditions. Two persons move near each other unconditionally. Once they have settled, once they have started taking each other for granted, then conditions are being imposed: "You should be like this, you should behave like that, only then will I love"–as if love is a bargain. Falling in love you become a possession: you possess and you allow somebody to possess you.
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Prabhaker replied to cetus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Tratak is gateway to psychic powers but this video appears to be a hoax. Any mystic will not do such kind of demonstration before everyone. If he can do it on YouTube, why can't he do it in front of scientists ? -
Prabhaker replied to Alex90's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
He meditated just to set a good example to his students. -
Prabhaker replied to Alex90's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Meditation will not give you enlightenment. No technique will ever give you enlightenment; enlightenment is not technical. Meditation can only prepare the ground. Meditation can bring you to your nature. Once you are ready, it always comes. Enlightenment comes when you are not even meditating or waiting for enlightenment. When all your efforts are dropped. Enlightened persons don't meditate. There is no question of forgetting the truth, you will become truth. When Jesus says "I am the truth" he is saying that whosoever attains to "I am-ness" is truth. And this truth is not something philosophical , this truth is existential. -
@Nahm I am doing efforts to become more introvert.
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@Nahm I am more introvert, less extrovert. I am on a path of becoming more and more introvert.
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Logic divide things either into black or white, while the reality consists mostly of grey. Ordinarily, no one is either totally extrovert or totally introvert. These are broad divisions. We are all a mixture -- partly introvert, partly extrovert. The difference is only of degrees. Sometimes it may happen that an individual is ninety percent extrovert and ten percent introvert. But by and large, people are of mixed nature. It is very rare that a person is purely introvert; because, such a person will not be able to live even for a moment. For food he will have to come out, for taking a bath he will have to be out. If a person becomes one hundred percent introvert, he will be dead. A one hundred percent extrovert person will also die immediately because, he too will have to sleep for which he will have to go inward. He will need rest for which he will have to go within. After work, some space for oneself is essential. One needs to spare oneself from friends and loved ones otherwise his contact with the inner sources will be lost and he will be finished. Hence this division is basically theoretical. Between one individual and another there are differences in degrees. Someone may be ninety percent extrovert and ten per cent introvert. A very introvert person if not becomes a pervert , will become a Buddha, but nobody becomes introvert to that degree. The extrovert religion prays to God; introvert religiousness meditates. Prayer is extrovert, meditation is introvert. Extrovert religions have not produced many enlightened persons.
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In case of a nuclear apocalypse leaving US is not going to help. Those who want enlightenment , don't care about end of the world, don't run, move inside, meditate, live in present moment. How long you can escape death ? Your death is born with you; now you cannot escape it. You have hidden it in yourself – become aware of it. The moment you become aware that you are going to die, that death is certain, your total mind will start looking in a different dimension. It happened that a Zen master was invited as a guest. A few friends had gathered and they were eating and talking when suddenly there was an earthquake. The building that they were sitting in was a seven story building, and they were on the seventh story so life was in danger. Everybody tried to escape. The host, running by, looked to see what had happened to the master. He was there with not even a ripple of anxiety on his face. With closed eyes he was sitting on his chair as he had been sitting before. The host felt a little guilty, he felt a little cowardly; it does not look good that a guest is sitting there and the host is running away. The others, the other twenty guests, had already gone down the stairs but he stopped himself although he was trembling with fear, and he sat down by the side of the master. The earthquake came and went, the master opened the eyes and started his conversation which because of the earthquake he had had to stop. He continued again at exactly the same sentence – as if the earthquake had not happened at all. The host was now in no mood to listen, he was in no mood to understand because his whole being was so troubled and he was so afraid. Even though the earthquake had gone, the fear was still there. He said: Now don’t say anything because I will not be able to grasp it, I’m not myself anymore. The earthquake has disturbed me too much. But there is one question I would like to ask. All other guests had escaped, I was also on the stairs, almost running, when suddenly I remembered you. Seeing you sitting here with closed eyes, sitting so undisturbed, so unperturbed, I felt a little cowardly – I am the host, I should not run. So I came back and I have been sitting by your side. I would like to ask one question. We all tried to escape. What happened to you? What do you say about the earthquake? The master said: I also escaped, but you escaped outwardly, I escaped inwardly.
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Playing video games makes you introvert. There seem to be only two ways: either be an extrovert -- but by being an extrovert you can never become a Buddha. Your focus is others, you are in a shadow. But how will your inner being grow this way? You will look more happy, you may look as if you are enjoying life more, but how are you going to grow? How will your inner being come to that point where it becomes light? If you are not concerned with it at all, it is not going to grow. To be an extrovert is good in the sense that you remain healthy -- you don't become a pervert. To be an introvert is dangerous because an introvert becomes ill, an introvert becomes in reality perverted. He thinks continuously about himself, he becomes enclosed. He remains with his frustrations, worries, anxieties, anguish, depressions, anger, jealousy, hate, this and that -- and he only worries. Think what type of anguish he lives in, continuously worried about things: Why am I angry? How should I become non-angry? Why do I hate? How should I transcend it? Why am I depressed? How to attain bliss? -- he is continuously worried, and through this worry he creates the very same things he is worried about. It becomes a vicious circle If you move wrongly, you will become a pervert and the wrong movement is that you become too concerned. Then what to do? Treat yourself as if you also are the other; don't be too concerned. When your body is ill it is as if somebody else's body is ill: do whatsoever is needed but don't be too concerned. If you have a fever go to the doctor, take the medicine, take care of the body, and that's all. Why be concerned too much? If you are on path of enlightenment, ready to accept everything life offers, good or bad, success or failure, health or illness, then only playing video games is OK. If you cannot follow this then it is better to be an extrovert, be unconcerned; you will not grow but at least you will not suffer so much as an introvert suffers.
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Now it is time, that you should sincerely and authentically enter into meditation, because that is the only space which can free you from all fears of death, old age, sickness. The old man is in the same state as when the storm has gone and silence prevails. That silence can be of tremendous beauty, depth, richness. There are thousand and one problems, solution is only one, live life meditatively. Life is not a problem. Rather, it is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved. A problem can be solved logically; a mystery cannot be solved logically or in any other way. A mystery has to be lived, accepted as it is; there is no way to solve it.
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Prabhaker replied to Toby's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Emerald Wilkins You have a great intellect, it will be very difficult for you to become a mystic ! -
Prabhaker replied to Samuel Garcia's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Meher Baba did a great experiment. He traveled all over the India to catch hold of all kinds of madmen, because they are just very close to God. Only one thing is needed: somebody is needed who can shake them back to their sanity. Then they can become great Masters. The madman, if in the hands of enlightened people, can achieve enlightenment faster than your so-called sane people. In the East there has been a longstanding tradition… in this century one man revived it again – his name was Meher Baba. He went all over India seeking and searching for mad people. In all the madhouses, anywhere that he heard there was a madman, he would go. He traveled all over India his whole life, searching for mad people. His disciples asked him, “Why are you wasting your time with mad people when sane people are available to work upon, and they want your time?” Meher Baba said, “You don’t understand. To bring a sane person out of his sanity is very difficult. But to bring out a madman is very easy because in a way he is already out, but from the back door. He has tasted something of the outside; we have only to show him the right door and say, “Please don’t go out from the wrong door, go from the right door. Being out is perfectly right, but choose the right door.” And Meher Baba turned many mad people into enlightened people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meher_Baba -
Prabhaker replied to Morten's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's not much of a difference, one injection of hormones can bridge the gap. -
Prabhaker replied to The Monk's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
We can't change the world if we don't change our consciousness. Your change is the beginning of the change of the world. If you don't change, you can go on changing the whole world - nothing changes; you will go on creating the same world again and again. By your meditation, you will be different, and when you are different the world is different because it is your world; it depends on your vision, on your interpretation. -
Prabhaker replied to The Monk's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Seriousness is the barrier -- the wrong attitude. Anything that makes you serious is irreligious. If you can laugh at yourself, everything is okay. People laugh at others, but never laugh at themselves. It has to be learned. If you can laugh at yourself, seriousness is already gone. It cannot make its abode within you if you are capable of laughing at yourself. Laughing at oneself kills the ego and you are more transparent, more light, when you move in the world. And if you have laughed at yourself, then others' laughter toward you won't disturb you. In fact they are simply cooperating, they are doing the same thing that you were doing. You will feel happy. To laugh at others is egoistic; to laugh at oneself is very humble. Learn to laugh at yourself -- about your seriousness and things like that. You can get serious about seriousness. Then instead of one, you have created two diseases. Then you can get serious about that also, and you can go on and on. -
Prabhaker replied to bazera's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Jesus is very paradoxical, but meaningfully so. To take in the meaning many things have to be understood. First, peace is possible if everybody is almost dead. There will be no war, no conflict, but there will be no life either. That would be the silence of the graveyard. But that is not worth anything; then even war is better because in war you are alive and vital. Another type of peace – a totally different dimension of peace – exists when you are vital, alive, but centered in your being: when self-knowledge has happened, when you have become enlightened, when the flame is lit and you are not in darkness. Then there will be more life, more silence, but the silence will belong to life, not to death. It will not be the silence of the graveyard. Jesus would not like that type of peace. That type of peace is useless; then this world, with war, would be better. But many have been endeavoring, and their attitude is just negative. They think, ”If war stops, everything will be okay.” It is not so easy. And this is not only the ordinary man’s conception – even very great philosophers like Bertrand Russell think that if war is finished everything will be okay. This is negative – because war is not the problem, the problem is man. And the war is not outside, the war is within. If you have not fought the war within, you will fight it without. If you have fought the war within and have become victorious, then the war without will cease. That is the only way. He is saying that through conflict growth is achieved; through struggle centering happens; through war peace flowers. But don’t take him literally; whatsoever he is saying is a parable. Christianity took it literally and missed the point. Then Christians took the sword in their hands, and they have killed millions unnecessarily, because that was not the meaning of Jesus. Then the church, Jesus’ church, became a warring church, it became a crusade. Christians have been fighting Mohammedans, Hindus, Buddhists – they have been fighting everywhere. But they missed the point. Jesus was talking of something else. He was not talking of the swords of this world; he brought a sword of a different world. What is this sword? It is a symbol. You have to be cut into two, because in you two things meet: this world – the earth – and heaven; they meet in you. One part of you belongs to the mud, to the dirt; one part of you belongs to the divine. You are a meeting point, and Jesus brought a sword to cut you asunder, so the earth falls to the earth and the divine enters into the divine. The family is related to the body: your father is your father because of your body. If you think you are the body, then you are related to your father. But if you come to know that you are not the body, who is the father? How are you related to him? The mother has given birth to your body, not to you. You are so identified with the body that you think the mother has given birth to you. When you are not identified, the identification is broken, then who is the mother? She has not given birth to you but only to this body which is going to die. So the mother has not given you life; rather, on the contrary, the mother has given you one more death. The father has not given you life, he has given you one more possibility to die. Once you are not identified with the body you have broken from the family, you are uprooted. The family is the basic unit of society. When you go beyond society you have to go beyond the family, but this does not mean that you should hate it – that is not the point; nor that you should go against it – that is not the point either. That is going to happen anyway. Once you start to find yourself, all that has been before will be disrupted, there is going to be chaos. So what should you do? They will pull you back, they will try to bring you back, they will make every effort to do so. What should be done? There are two ways: one is the old way which is to escape from them, not to give them any opportunity – but I think that is no longer applicable. The other is to be with them, but as an actor: don’t give them the opportunity to know that you are moving beyond them. Move! Let that be your inner journey, but outwardly fulfill all formalities: touch the feet of your father and your mother and be a good actor. By being a good actor I mean that you are not related at all, but you go on fulfilling the formalities. Deep down you are uprooted, but you don’t even give a hint that you are uprooted. And what is the use of giving a hint? – because then they will start trying to change you. Don’t give them any chance. Let this be an inner journey and outwardly be completely formal. They will be happy then because they live in formalities. They live on the outside, they don’t need your inner worship. They don’t need your inner love – just the show is enough. -
Prabhaker replied to Venus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Goal is one, path may be different, all are correct. For an extrovert person path will different from an introvert person. -
Prabhaker replied to john5170's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@john5170 Basic idea is that a few minutes every day should be given to meditation. And what will you do in the remaining time? Whatever you will gain in twenty minutes…what are you going to do in the remaining twenty-three hours and forty minutes? – something anti-meditative. Naturally your twenty minutes will be defeated. The enemies are too big, and you are giving too much juice and energy to the enemies and just twenty minutes for meditation. No, meditation in the past has not been able to bring a rebellion in the world because of these fallacies. You can learn meditation for twenty minutes or forty minutes – learning is one thing – but then you have to carry whatever you have learned day in, day out. Meditation has to become just like your heartbeat. First, while you are awake, from the moment you wake up, immediately catch hold of the thread of remaining alert and conscious, because that is the most precious moment to catch the thread of consciousness. In the day you will forget many times – but the moment you remember, immediately start being alert. Never repent, because that is a sheer wastage of time. Never repent, “My God, I forgot again!” Whatever has happened is gone. Now there is no need to waste time on it. Catch hold again of the thread of awareness. Slowly, slowly you will be able to be alert the whole day: an undercurrent of awareness in every act, in every movement, in everything that you are doing or not doing. Something underneath will be continuously flowing.
