Chew211

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  1. Yeah, but not being a nice guy is just changing your external behaviors for most people, which is why it's not the real results getter. Both being a nice guy and not being a nice guy is coming from the same place of seeking female validation.
  2. Lol, I've read all those books, man. Those books won't change you because they don't get to the core of the issue. If they did, then no one would have those problems, because those books have sold so much.
  3. @Emerald Thanks for your insight. When people, regardless of their sex, talk about what they want (in a partner or otherwise), it's usually not it. The psychoanalytic model does not take what people say at their face value. However, the difference is with the Red Pill, the assumption is that women are either dishonest or deluded whereas men or not-- or even worse, the inconsistency between what women say and what they do is justification to do the same. There are women who say they want a nice guy but keep getting into relationships with men who are not nice. Just like there are guys who say they want to get laid/improve their dating life but instead complain on this forum about women being a certain way which prevents them from getting laid-- you did a good job pointing out a particular dudes inconsistency yourself. The issue with the Red Pill is that it doesn't teach you anything about how to find out about how to find a woman's true desires. They just say that all chicks desire one thing (projection of their phallic nature), and act based off of that. And like you've said many times, that'll work for a certain type of women, but it's not a universal. The guys that get success of off this way of thinking have the stereotype reinforced because their behavior is selected for the type of women where Red Pill strategies work, just like how all the "there's no good men" women think all men are douches because of their preselection bias. In Lacanian terms, people are only looking at the level of the Imaginary, but not the Symbolic.
  4. @Karmadhi @asifarahim Red Pill doesn't transform you. You're only dealing with surface level traits. The only good "wisdom" Red Pill offers is to not be Blue Pill.
  5. Lacanian psychoanalysis to understand human behavior. Marxist analysis to understand socioeconomic factors. A Nietzschean will to power. And action: apply knowledge of the above, find/set up location independent income, and approach women you're interested in. With this approach, you'll develop the ability to create a sexual strategy for YOU. Read the Lacan for Beginners book to get started.
  6. Leo has said this many times. Most people who are doing cold approach to pick up chicks are starting from a place of lack. A lot more refining is needed, thus the large number of approaching needed. I personally know professional PUA guys. They have more chicks than they know what to do with. But ten years ago, they were busting their ass off, and getting their ego shattered over and over again. The vast majority of people don't cold approach to meet their partner. Usually it's within a group of some kind. A friend group, workplace, classroom, etc. Online is another popular place since the internet.
  7. Just create some nice openers for different situations. Something that'll get them to laugh or something. At the very least, just something that will spark a conversation. Don't try too hard. And then once you have the opener over with, conversing should be easy. The key is to give a good amount of information so that it's easy for the other person to respond. Do not put the burden of the conversation on the other person. In the beginning of the interaction it might be 90% just you talking. Approaching has all it's difficulties front loaded. The most difficult step is overcoming the resistance to doing the approach itself. As someone who has read thousands of pages of stuff related to this, I would high recommend NOT doing that, and just experimenting and having fun. Whatever I wrote in the first paragraph is the most useful stuff I gathered and have verified with experience. If you twisted my arm, I'd recommend " The Flinch" by Julien Smith, which is just focused on getting over that initial resistance.
  8. Keep hitting up new chicks. If you're doing the same thing, try to change it up a little. If you're starting out with little experience, like most guys on the forum, it'll take a while for the results to come. It's best to build a connection in person and make plans on the spot. Then on the date, have fun, and get physical. If she doesn't respond well to the physicality, use intuition to figure out whether it's cuz she doesn't like you or if things are just too fast for her. Good job on taking action thi
  9. @B_HAZ Too many people, myself included, have made the mistake of doing nothing in th name of "healing".
  10. Congratulations, you've traded one shitty pattern for another, possibly worse, one. Breaking out of patterns is an active process, and you gave up an opportunity to do so out of fear, and as a result have upset both yourself and the other.
  11. Just get into it. The whole "I need to heal my wounds" is neurotic cope, unless it's actual physical wounds. You don't need healing, you need growth, and for that you need experience.
  12. No, but will get it as soon as it comes out. AOE 2 is the first game I ever touched. I was 3. I've improved slightly since then ?
  13. Don't make a habit out of being disrespected. Don't tolerate it in the moment.
  14. Validation from society of their existence as a species of men who can't get laid because of genetic circumstances. Generally speaking, society glamourizes the underdogs (which keeps losers from breaking shit), incels want that too. They want their suffering to be validated by the Other. Society doesn't give them that validation. Their coping mechanism (enjoyment/Jouissance) is outrage as can be seen on incel forums, violence (though rare), etc. There is another layer too. They "want" the Other's approval, but they also deep down know that's not possible, and so they "enjoy" NOT getting the object of desire (social approval). So it's like a loop. A system. Their being.
  15. It's not really entitlement. If you take them at face value, it'll seem like entitlement, but in reality their identity is based on being a victim of (genetic) circumstance. Incels rhetoric is merely a coping mechanism. If you take it seriously they seem entitled. What people, incels or otherwise, say they want and what they actually want is often different, sometimes the opposite.
  16. the black pill is a nice way of saying i can't get a girl because I j̶u̶s̶t̶ d̶o̶n̶'t̶ t̶r̶y̶ t̶o̶ a̶p̶p̶r̶o̶a̶c̶h̶ t̶h̶e̶m̶ proudly proclaim myself an untermensch, and my identity necessitates not getting laid.
  17. The blackpill is when you misunderstand something so much that you become subhuman.
  18. Yeah, the guys feel a sense of validation. I had one friend who even told me that he wants to "earn it". Different strokes for different folks. But it's the gfs/wives that keep demand more and are never happy long term with their aroused-by-hoop-jumping partners.
  19. It actually makes a lot of sense. Remember how men are phallic? Being phallic is why some men want to get laid a lot, why some men become obsessed with developing a skill, and why some men willingly jump through hoops. Overcoming difficulties give us a sense of pride. Unfortunately, a lot of guys can't differentiate between worthy and unworthy struggles.
  20. Incels don't exist because of other people. Incels are a result of post-industrial socio economic conditions.
  21. In her defense though, it is a forum, and what she shared is valuable. Just gotta make sure no guy she's involved with sees it, or gets that vibe from her. From what I noticed, guys that jump through hoops somehow never satisfy their gfs/wives.
  22. This is maybe why the forum guy got cold towards you? If a girl I had intrest in admitted this, then I'd definitely pull away. I'm sure a lot of guys would too.
  23. You're still not pushing to the edges, you're still stuck in the box where you're trying to get something from women. It's even worse, cause you're calling it a reward. Before you were a nice guy, thinking that it'll get you a reward. You correctly realized that it won't. Now you're thinking devilry/ not giving a fuck, etc will get you a reward-- and you might be right, but do you see the edges that define your pathetic box? It's the "how do I be in order to get puss" box. It's reactionary in nature, and makes you into a slave, and not into the master you think you are/want to be. Getting puss is theory (about technique, not into understanding "female nature") + experimental action + reflection. That's it. You can find what works for you both in approaching and in relationships. All this "female nature" talk is fetishistic (meaning it prevents you from understanding the underlying structure). It's really not that profound. It's not something to be so heavy-hearted about. This whole post is structured like advice, but it's clear that it's advice to you. You're just talking to yourself, but on this public form so that it can be validated by others. It's cope.
  24. @Peter Miklis If you had a chance to read about the phallus and sexuation, a way to put that into psychoanalytic terms is: "men" want to have the phallus, and "women" want to be the phallus. Rape fantasy is just a very clear expression of that.