How to be wise

@Faceless How many times do I have to tell you that absolute truth cannot be spoken about in words. ? So it follows that nothing I write here can be true. So please stop looking for the truth in my words, because there aren’t any. Instead, try to understand what I’m trying to tell you. You have a brain, so hopefully you’re capable of that. Respond in a way we’re we can have a dialogue about enlightenment (and for the thousandth time, the writing will never be true) were you try to understand and respond appropriately. If you’re not capable of that, then this forum isn’t for you. Btw if you expect everybody to speak with what is accurate in your direct experience, then how do you go about your day. Can you buy something at a shop whilst speaking from your absolute experience?

@Sockrattes Everything that you’re saying right now is “mind stuff”. Any thought is mind stuff. Enlightenment is turning off the mind. What remains is awareness. If you want to know the absolute truth, stay open minded and take up an inquiry practice, so that you can experience it for yourself. Then you can be the judge of who’s right.

@Faceless As I already said, of course ‘relative truth’ is not true. It’s just a model. A model is something useful. It’s useful to speak in ‘relative truth’ otherwise nobody will understand you. If you’re talking from experience and you’re truly enlightened, then you won’t believe in what you write, but you’ll do it out of love for us (awareness) so we could understand you.

@Sockrattes Leo asked the same question to Peter Ralston. Honestly he shamed himself:

@Faceless please don’t try to communicate absolute truth in language. Firstly it’s almost impossible to understand. Secondly, the moment you put the absolute (awareness) into words, it’s not it anymore. Try to speak in ‘relative truth’, although it’s not true ofcourse but then again no form of words can be true. So speak in a way were people can understand.

@outlandish shinzen Young said that it took him 20 years to the point where he could be happy in a traffic jam. Gosh, if he sat with Byron Katie, he could’ve done it in 20 mins. That’s why I say that inquiry is superior to meditation.

Baha’i Faith was a religion started in the 1850s by Bahá’u’lláh. Unlike other Abrahamic faiths, this one seems to be a very peaceful religion, that encourages people to validate all other religions. Bahá’u’lláh himself was enlightened, LOC 1000. I’m suprised that people aren’t talking about this religion. When you look at the rules of the religion, it makes you question whether this is a stage blue religion, because it sounds a lot more like stage green. Could this be the first religion that is beyond blue, and into green and yellow integration.

@Edogowa Conan Well some people did accept the Baha’i faith, but mainly the Sufis because they liked the mystical component of the faith. But I do think that Bahá’u’lláh was a bit ahead of his time.

@Sahil Pandit Leo in the video said that you have to work for 10-20 years to achieve emotional mastery. Bullshit. With The Work, you can do it in just 1-2 years. Try it out and you’ll see!

@searchingserenity the book ‘Loving what is’. Also if you can listen to this podcast it would be very helpful:

I know that mooji is an enlightened master, but this much devotion from this many people is unseen since osho. How did he make those people so devoted to him? Watch from 1:53:28

@Bobby of course I’m talking about the author.

@tsuki let’s look at this another way. Say you were feeling pain in your hand, and just for a moment you were distracted by something very flashy, that you forgot about the pain in your hand? Where did the pain go in that moment? The fact is that pain is created by mind. Everything is mind. The whole world, your body, everything is mind. This is something you will be directly conscious of in an enlightenment experience. You don’t have to take it up as a belief.

@tsuki Wrong. The body doesn’t have any problems. It doesn’t care whatever happens to it. The mind is the one with the problems. The mind is the one which projects all pain to the body. For example, once a man had felt pain in his chest. He was feeling that pain for a few weeks, but he didn’t really mind it that much. The pain wasn’t that intense. He went to the doctor to find out how to cure the pain. At that point he was calm and easy-going, because the pain didn’t bother him that much. The doctor looked at a sample of his blood and came back to the room with a grim face. He told the man that he had cancer, and was a very serious condition. All of a sudden, this calm man became everything from frantic to pain-striken. He suffered from intense pain, intense fear and intense hurt. All because his mind became frantic over the fact that he would die. The mind is the one that feels pain, never the body, though it may seem that way to you.

They’ve been rather successful so far. If you can convince a person to engage in a spiritual practice then your chances of success will be even higher. How did you get to enlightenment? Wasn’t there a spiritual teacher who had to speak your egoic language to get you motivated to become enlightened? An enlightened person has experienced the truth. Ofcourse you can’t make him believe in the egoic stuff again.

@Faceless we meet people where they are. Not because it’s not an illusion, but because of love. You love the people, so you speak to them in their terms. But inside, there’s nothing that anyone can do to make you believe in it.

@Joseph Maynor unfortunately there are too many un enlightened people around. We need to speak their language. But the point is, most enlightened people who speak in ‘egoic language’ will not believe in the words they’re speaking, so they will be detached from it on the inside, but will still speak it so as to communicate with other people.

@Nahm In the world we live in, you will face plenty of situations where people will be angry with you. So you better not worry about it, or you’re looking at a whole world of suffering.

@Nahm you better not. That’s the world we live in.

@Nahm it’s a joke dude. Don’t worry. I’m not angry with you.

Namaste ? ????????????????

@Nahm your posts are too long. Who do you think will read all of that. ?

@xbcc when sadhguru says you have free will, he is meeting the audience that he’s speaking to from where they are. The audience, who are probably not enlightened, clearly believe that they have free will. So sadhguru is talking to them in their terms, and not in his own experience. It’s called ‘relative truth’. It’s the truth of the un enlightened person.

@Nahm lol, do you think anybody will take some time off to contemplate just because you tell them to. You know better than that.

@NoSelfSelf Lol buy Leo’s booklist. You need more research before you start practicing.