How to be wise

Notice that 0 is itself a quality. When I say that reality has no qualities, I’m not talking about the number 0. To the mind, it appears as though reality is infinite. But that doesn’t make it so. Notice that you can never confirm infinity. By definition of infinity! You can only say that “it appears as though the mind is infinite.” The mind is a subset of reality. It is possible to erase the mind and keep reality, but not vice versa. For example, in a no-mind state, the mind ceases but reality continues.

It’s unlikely. Government is so big after all.

Consciousness and God are spiritual concepts created by the mind. Reality has no qualities. The formless has no qualities. So to say finite/infinite are both wrong. The mind is (or at least seems) infinite. But even that can’t be known.

@seeking_brilliance Are you in a homosexual marriage? Just curious because your profile says you are male.

The reality that the mind creates is imaginary. Reality without the mind is not imaginary. There can be reality without mind. For example, in a no-mind state.

What about your video proposing 100 different policies? What was the point of that video, knowing that it will have close to no impact on government?

I’m still wondering why so much time is being spent learning about this, when we all know that no one here will have any significant impact on something as big as Evangelism. Can someone help me understand the point of talking about any of this.

I’m pretty sure that Rumi did not start Sufism. There are many Sufis who lived before Rumi.

@ardacigin Rather than thinking of ‘getting enlightened’, try to think of it more as ‘realising that you’re already enlightened.’ This is a far more accurate terminology for me. For most practitioners, when they learn about enlightenment, they conjure up what they think enlightenment is, and they chase those ideas. But those ideas don’t exist, so they spend decades just chasing their tails. Enlightenment is not different from what you are experiencing now. Stop getting stuck in all those spiritual concepts. Forget about terms like infinity, god and consciousness. Focus on just your direct experience. This is enlightenment. Just realise that. Of course, I’m speaking from my POV. I don’t know if this will work for you.

“Being aware” is a spiritual concept. It may be a good ladder for the spiritual seeker, but it must be dropped in the end.

@Leo Gura Can I ask you a question? Do you take psychedelics legally or illegally?

It doesn’t. And, some of us will try to prevent that.

@mandyjw Byron Katie is a female version of the Buddha. Perhaps you should study her work.

It’s true that hippies are the most happiest compared to the rest of the planet, but compared to egoless people, they are extremely miserable. Annihilating the self is a huge task, and hippies are very far from that destination. Perhaps it’s actually physically impossible for most of them.

That probably didn’t happen. People like to make up all sorts of nonesense.

What I see is a bunch of people chasing happiness. That’s good. The problem is, happiness is not achieved through material goods, or shallow inner work. Paradoxically, to attain true happiness, one needs to do the laborious work of melting your identity. That won’t look like fun, which is why most people don’t do it. One example that Sadhguru frequently gives is the analogy of planting a mango tree. If you want mango, how do you get it? Some people will decide to sit down and think about mangos until they come. Well, they won’t. Other people, more wisely, will take care of the soil, manure, water and sunlight. None of these things look like mangos, but if you take care of them, mangos will inevitably arrive. Same thing with happiness. The process of acquiring happiness, and the result of happiness are two very different (often opposite) things. But anyway, this festival is way better than what the vast majority of the people on this planet are doing. So congrats to them.

God forced me to drop out of university. I was only in university for myself. Not a good enough reason.

I’m not saying that isn’t the case. I’m just giving reasons why the statement “what you put out is what you get back” may not be true.

True that the law isn’t saying that an accident won’t befall you. But I’m saying, what if the accident befalls you straight after you put in all the work, before seeing any significant “return in investment.”

@Leo Gura Can you address my earlier post.

Really? I mean, I agree with the first three, but can you really know if number 4 is true? I’m not denying it, but couldn’t it be the case that somebody really helps out a community and changes their life for the better, only to get killed by some thieves in the street. He certainly put out a lot, but what did he get back in return?

I’m not talking about enlightenment. I’m talking about a permanent state of unconditional love. The two are very different. If someone achieves unconditional love, then by definition they love everything. Nothing can hurt them internally, because they love everything. They love all traditions (even though they may focus on their own) and they love all people. I’m sure that some yogis had achieved this state a long time ago. I don’t see how such people can be in stage Blue.

But a defining character of Blue is that he gets triggered internally when his community is attacked. Yet unconditional love means that nothing that happens in reality can make you feel uncomfortable. You love all of reality. If someone is in that state, then to call him Blue is a bit too much.

But unconditional love, by its definition, means that your circle of concern has lost its boundaries. Total possession by God. I don’t see how someone could be in stage Blue at the same time.

Many yogis have achieved a state of unconditional love in the past. What stage of development is that, on Spiral Dynamics?