How to be wise

According to sadhguru, you can become enlightened much faster (or at least have some big mystical experience) when you are meditating next to an enlightened being. Is this true? Have any of you experienced this ‘grace’ before?

@Omni don’t build any good habits. Habit means a mindless action. In that article they claim that if everything they did was mindful, they would exert too much effort. That’s just another way of saying that they are too lazy to be mindful all the day. If you become mindful all the time (or as much as you can) all your habits -good and bad- would fall apart, because you will do everything mindfully. When you do everything mindfully, you will do only those actions that mean something to you, and that will benefit you. You will also become enlightened much faster. So end all your mindless actions (habits), and do everything mindfully.

@Faceless why not humour yourself with the actual experience. I can’t give you a description of Brahman because I’ve never experienced it before. But I meditate every day in the hopes that I will. Maybe you should too.

@Scholar If you haven’t experienced Brahman, then it’s not true for you. When other enlightened people talk about nothingness, you should just leave that. Their words are not at all the truth. Because Brahman can’t be described with words. If you want to know Brahman, go and experience it for yourself. Don’t delude yourself into thinking you know it just because you heard or know a good description of it. Because there is none.

@Nahm stop talking about non-duality here. Saying that there is no such thing as suffering will not help anyone here.

This post is about the danger of samadhi. I mean, did you watch that video. If someone is in samadhi, he can die by just hearing a handclap. Makes you wonder whether you ever want to enter it or not.

Did you know that entering a state of samadhi is very dangerous if there are people around you. According to sadhguru, if you enter samadhi, you can very easily slip out of your body accidentally (die). That’s why people who are in samadhi are kept in protected places. So much as a hand clap or pin prick can lead the mediator to accidentally slip out of the body (for good). If you don’t believe me, hear out the famous yogi for yourself:

Sadhguru talks about how people with strong visions and life purposes always die young because they can’t control their life energies. They throw away their energies too much. If you have a strong life purpose and you feel passionate you must learn how to control your life energies. That can only be done through Yoga. For more info: http://isha.sadhguru.org/blog/yoga-meditation/demystifying-yoga/power-mind-making-thought-truly-powerful/

@star ark I do yoga as well, and a main part of yoga is concentrating towards samadhi. Whichever path to enlightenment you choose, there is no escaping meditation.

@Leo Gura I can see what you’re saying makes sense due to some people making stupid threads. What about sagehood? If everyone on the planet was a sage, will there be peace in your opinion?

@Leo Gura I guess that’s the dark side of psychedelics. It shows enlightenment to someone who hasn’t worked for it, and they end up discarding it. This wouldn’t have happened with the old school self inquiry or yoga path.

With enlightenment being this universal god-like experience, it is, in the end of the day, just a brain function. So is it possible to ‘lose’ your enlightenment in some kind of an accident just like how people lose their memory or other functions of their head? Also, other self-actualized attainments like emotional mastery and being ecstasic all the time. Can you lose them if your have a certain brain injury?

Yoga is not about awareness. It’s about controlling your life energy. Yoga is a whole science. Whilst meditation focuses on awareness to reach enlightenment, yoga focuses on raising your energies from the base of the spine to the topmost chakra: sahasrara. Yoga is about tapping to the fullest potential of the human body and mind. Watch these videos:

@Gustav there are many different paths to enlightenment. Question is, which one is right for you. You can only know that by reading a vast number of perspectives towards enlightenment, and then seeing which one suits your priorities. Because some of the techniques give more than just ‘enlightenment’.

There’s only one way of ‘finding it out for myself’ you fool. Yes you say that a short but good life is better than a long and miserable one. True. But it’s not better than a long and good life. Sadhguru didn’t state the fact about early death for no reason. Did you read the article? He was talking about the importance of learning yoga to control your life energies. If you master your energy or ‘prana’, then you can live passionately without having to die young. Yoga is more important than meditation.

Yogis like Paramahansa Yogananda and others on the path of Kriya yoga talk about the star of kutasha. I’m not going to dismiss the idea of the star of kutasha. Books where written by different yogi masters but they all describe the star of kutasha as the same, same colours same everything. As for why Buddhist meditators haven’t seen it, it’s because Kriya yoga is more advanced than vipassana. The star of kutasha is the doorway to all of enlightenment, and by attaining it, you will have the highest experience of non-duality possible. Btw everything I’m saying I paraphrased from yogiraj, who is a Kriya yoga master.

According to Kriya yoga, if you concentrate on the point between your eyebrows (called bhrumadiya) long enough, you will see a white star in a blue circle surrounded by an orange flame (called the star of kutasha). That is the doorway of all of consciousness. The strange thing is that they claim every single human being will see the same white star in blue circle inside orange flame. How is that possible? And why is it only being talked about in yoga? If this star of kutasha meant something big, why aren’t Buddhists and zen masters talking about this? Why don’t you see it when you’re tripping on psychedelics?

If sadhguru gets in a motorbike accident, is there any chance he will identify with his body when he wakes up in the hospital?

@Nahm so what’s your answer to the brain damage vs enlightenment question? Does there exist any type of injury to the brain that can negate your enlightenment?

@Joseph Maynor that learning to control your energy is essential if I’m to be passionate.

We’re trying to talk about if brain damage can unenlighten you please don’t bring enlightenment and strange loops in this.

@egoless if you want to learn Kriya yoga properly, check out this guy:

So I’m currently practicing Kriya yoga, and there are some techniques that require you to inhale for 10-15 seconds. The max that I can inhale is 5 seconds. Does anyone have any tips on how to considerably increase inhalation time? Thanks.

I understand enlightenment quite well. But I’m speaking practically here. If sadhguru was in a motorbike accident and loses his memory, will he still be enlightened? Enlightenment is a phenomenon of the brain. It’s quite hard to have this conversation because enlightenment doesn’t occur anywhere and the brain doesn’t exist and so on. But, just like snorting some psychedelics up your brain can give you an enlightenment experience, there can be things that happen to the brain that can lose your enlightenment. Stop being so ‘new age’ here. I’m not disagreeing with you when you say that the brain doesn’t cause our reality. But what I’m saying is that your perception of reality can change if the structure of your brain changes.

@Markus it’s not as simple as it sounds