UnbornTao

Exercise, physical labor, fasting. Don't have snacks. Eat nutritious food when hungry. Maybe skip a meal or two.

Small people resent vital and skilful individuals. Your success makes them feel comparatively inferior and at a loss. Others may get jealous or compete when you're bigger than them but you don't have to evoke either. What others do is their own problem and something out of your control.

Okay thanks for sharing. What are you now for real? You might look into that.

You're talking about something else, not a direct consciousness. You are already you and it is always freeing and joyful to grasp that. Likely going through a state precipitated by your cosmology (and drugs).

What do you mean by external indicators? I'd say no because it is direct and sudden, it either happens or not. One can be open, focused, etc., but there's no "recipe" nor method. It's a fact that enlightenment depends on you. You can be around people, but it doesn't change the fact that it is you who wakes up. Monks and contemplative people are usually solitary types, their commitment is to truth. By what you say, it sounds like you might be looking to being part of a community. That's good and it's useful to clarify what one is doing and why.

Contemplative efforts can occur in a group setting, too. But in this domain, it is the case that you are the one who must get it even if assisted by others and regardless of circumstances! Who is going to get enlightened now? You. Not talking about non-duality nor spirituality, to be clear. What's absolutely true now? Grasping this personally is the priority.

Welcome to the forum! Hope you learn a lot from it.

Canary Islands.

No need to talk about it if you don't want to. If you're asked, you might talk about it. Just keep in mind what your speech is about and what it is accomplishing -- usually entertainment. Nothing wrong with that. Certainly if you encounter a facilitator, it'd helpful to ask her questions and engage in dialogue. Dialogues and shared contemplations can also be had as in dyads, so these are other possibilities that can empower your own work, not just entertain you. You can also read profound books as a "conversation" between the author and you. Read Rumi's poetry and Ramana's words as a shared dialogue, for example. This disposition might help you in truly listening and grasping the material. Also clarify what's meant by spirituality: You could plainly call it being honest, pushing yourself into your experience. If anything, that's a pro-truth, pro-life endeavour. Contemplation is an art that can be applied to any matter. Look into what business, body, emotions, sports, sex, learning, etc., all are. This can be considered "spiritual", although I myself steer away from using abstract terms as much as I can.

So 3 useful things: - Master something, focus on being effortless at it (which likely requires the most work) - Transform completely - Understand everything Let's do that.

got it thanks.

This one.

Hey there! Can you elaborate on your second point?

Got it. Setting that aside, my gripe is that pretty much no one seems to know what it really is. Sadhguru might "know" as he's presumably enlightened. Other than that, the fact that only direct consciousness makes a difference should be insisted upon. Without it, what are we doing? Having fun debates and producing useful studies perhaps but hey, why not focus on personally grasping the thing first? Neither spirituality nor science apply in this domain, only direct experience does, after all. But I agree that a lot of good work can come out of these efforts. At the very least, they're entertaining for the viewers and everyone else involved.

Scientists can't focus when doing the experiments.

I don't know, find out for yourself. I'd start by doing some research, perhaps into physiology. How does orgasms come about? What takes place in the body? What does it produce?, etc. Contemplate it.

Sounds like he's had enlightenment experiences. I still feel most teachers are simply putting on a show, even if they're doing relatively good work.

Accept sexual urges as natural, no need to fight them. Experience the bottom-line that sources your dislike for women, that allows you to drop it. Dig into your experience "Why do I think this is the case? Is it true? Could there be something truer underlying this?" Experience another entity as presently there without the baggage that you associate it with. A living entity is not your assumptions, conclusions, ideas, or desires about it. See if you can set aside anything that isn't actually there, this is a mindfulness practice.

Probably yes, but I'd do my research first, depends on what temperatures we're talking about.

What is spiritual meaning? Study what an orgasm is and how it works. What is it? Getting that solves the issue. Our job should be to discover what something --anything-- is. What it means goes after that, and it is added by you. Purpose is another question, it is the function that something serves, the reason for its existence or appearance. What does a toaster floating in outer space mean?

Yeah, for the sake of the debate it'd be useful, and yet all of those factors are irrelevant when it comes to grasping what's being talked about. An illiterate monk may know what consciousness is, science is indirect, and no amounts of debating will make a difference in your experience. What are these debates for?

It doesn't have to be true nor make sense for it to work.

I didn't watch it to be honest, not interested. I just commented on the tendency of so called "spiritual" people of being lost in fantasy, ungrounded. It's better if the conversation is about this point rather than on any particular individual.

Oh boy. It doesn't mean anything except what it itself is. No need to bring one's airy-fairy concepts into physiological processes. If you want to know things of that nature, study physiology and related subjects.